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    My own personal assesment is that the key will be how much he learns on defense. His offense is going to be driven by good passing (ie getting fed on the pick and roll), and offense). This is not a league anymore, where a short power player can isolate and back down a la Charles Barkley. His D on the other hand could easily surpass Barkley, who never really gave a damn. My summer project for Blair would be to study as much of Chuck Hayes's D as possible. Blair has better physical tools than Hayes; if he can pick up some of the technique, he will be a much bigger impact as a player.

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    This post is pro stuff.

    I liked Ryan's comparison to Wes Unseld.

    Barkley was naturally gifted with outside shooting instincts.
    You can tell from the way Blair shoots FTs that he is not very natural as a shooter. That's a good indication.
    Eventually he will get to 70% at FT with hard work, but shooting in traffic and with no time to think is a whole different matter.

    I don't see a barkley in the making in Blair.

    He could still end up being a heavier version of Adrian Dantley, though.

    And yes, I agree that put it simply, Blair knows how to play basketball.

    Which, in my opinion, cannot be said of 70% of NBA athletes.
    Some good points. Barkley said that if you can't shoot by the time you get to the NBA, it's too late. Not entirely true... Bowen learned to shoot--a little. If he works hard, he should be able to at least master a 10' jumper or something like that.

    The "knows how to play bball" thing is so important. And seems to have been a bit of a blind spot in pro sports where scouts sometimes seem to overrate measurables.

    One point, about the injuries, the Wages of Wins guy mentioned that it's better to get a few seasons out of an All-Star like talent (as Blair is) than get ten out of a mediocrity who does little more than take up space. He evaluates Blair as the 2nd best man off the bench after the league. After Ginobili. Yes, this year!

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    Fantastic post, Lurker. Enjoyed the read

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    i like it niceeee

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    As part of the Raising the Bar series of features, I've been asked to do player evaluation threads more regularly. With this current Spurs team, I felt there was no better place to start than the much praised rookie DeJuan Blair. While many people try to sum up Blair's strengths in one word (“rebounding”), I think I'd rather sum up the promise of DeJuan Blair in one sentence: In the NBA, it is rare that you can draft a player who not only has an immediate impact on the game, but also has the upside, at ude, and learning ap ude to improve his game significantly, both in the short-run and the long-run; DeJuan Blair is one of those players. Coming out of Pitt, Blair was a lottery-level talent, but make no mistake that even lottery players don't always have this combination on a regular basis. (And yes, there's no doubt Blair could have gone in the lottery; not only was he a first-team All-American (read: likely top 5 player in the country), he was often projected to go in the lottery before the bombs about his knees.)

    Now don't get me wrong, I don't want to contribute to over-hyping Blair; there has been quite enough of that done already. Blair is a player who will always have certain limitations. In the NBA, he will never be listed any taller than 6'7”; despite his wingspan, this will always hinder him to a point against bigger players on both ends of the court. As athletic as he is, even if he lost 30 pounds, he'll never have the leaping ability or freakish athleticism of Dwight Howard. And of course, the elephant in the room is his lack of ACLs, which some feel will limit his longevity in the NBA. We could debate this point all day, but the bottom line is that only time will tell. The potential for injury is a sad fact of life for all athletes. Whether it's Tim Duncan or Bill Walton, Michael Jordan or Tracy McGrady, Greg Oden, Blake Griffin, or DeJuan Blair, the chance for injuries to play a major part of a career exists for all players, and all you can really do is hope for the best.

    With all this in mind, let's take a closer look at DeJuan Blair.

    Strengths

    -Rebounding: Everyone knows about this one, but I'd be remiss if I didn't mention it: DeJuan Blair is a rebounding machine. His big, soft hands allow him to corral anything that comes in his direction. (I could have written a whole section on his hands; they are immensely skilled, and allow him to rebound, collect passes, and handle the ball well, and will only help him more going forward.) He gets great position, times his leaps well, and has instincts for finding the ball off the rim that are only rivaled by some of the best rebounders this game has seen. This isn't hyperbole; his rebounding rates thus far compare favorably to many greats of the modern era. This is especially true on the offensive end, where he is not only skilled at bringing the ball down off a teammate's miss, but also at quick put-backs and tip-ins. Second chance points are often where games are won or lost, and as long as the Spurs give Blair steady minutes, it's a battle they have a great shot at winning.

    -Ability to get to the basket: As we'll talk about later, DeJuan doesn't have much of a jumper as of yet. So, he has to score most of his points at the basket, either via dunk, layup, or put-back. Thankfully, getting to the basket is something he is very good at. I'm not just talking about getting offensive rebounds close to the rim, capitalizing on open cuts, or getting position close to the basket, though those are all things he is very good at. No, I'm mostly talking about the deceptively varied moves he uses to get past his defender and hit layups instead of short jumpers. He uses a variety of spin moves, pump fakes, and appropriate muscle to get to the hoop. Not only that, but there are times when he picks up his dribble 8-10 feet from the hoop and you think, “Uh oh, he's going to have to shoot from there.” Not so fast; with Blair's length and ability to lean into the shot, he frequently makes layups from positions usually reserved for floaters or baby hook shots.

    -Ability to use his girth: Some guys have great size, but don't know how to use it; DeJuan Blair is not one of those guys. While he's not exactly an enforcer, he uses his size to get good position for rebounding and posting up, as well as planting his feet for strength on defense. This is especially evident on the offensive end, both in regards to offensive rebounding and forcing his way to the basket. That being said, he could stand to throw his weight around even more on both ends on a regular basis, which may be in the cards when fouling gets more under control (more on that in a bit). For now, however, his effectiveness in using his girth, particularly in his posterior region, is a big strength. (His butt is so famous that there was even a column written about it in the New York Times.)

    -Hustle and effort: These last two strengths are noteworthy because they're hard, if not impossible, to teach. One thing that sets Blair apart from a lot of players is his tenacity and his overall engine. He doesn't give up on plays and he's isn't afraid to lay his body on the line for a loose ball. In this way, he's like an oversized version of Manu Ginobili. He dives to the ground, he fights for balls, he tips the rebound three times if necessary, and he flat-out hustles. Like Ginobili, this may end up limiting his minutes at times, but I'd rather have 25-30 minutes of a guy going 100% than 40-45 minutes of a guy mailing it in. From what we've seen of DeJuan Blair, he'll never mail it in.

    -At ude: Finally, DeJuan Blair has a great at ude, both on and off the court. From all accounts, he's friendly (if somewhat soft-spoken in the press), humble, a team player, and eager to learn. On the court, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has more fun and smiles more throughout the game than DeJuan. He has allowed more veteran players to take him under their wing, and seems to learn new skills quickly. When projecting the future development of a player, at ude is a very underrated indicator, and it's something that Blair has on his side. If Blair doesn't progress steadily over the next few years, it's not likely to be from a lack of trying.

    Room for improvement


    (Note: Most stats quoted in this section are as of the 2/4 Portland game.)


    Like all players, Blair stands to improve on many facets of his game. One of the major differences with Blair, however, is that he has the skill and learning ability that not only makes most of these improvements legitimately possible, you feel like he could break out with these newfound skills sooner rather than later. In his short tenure with the Spurs, Blair has taken strides in his defense, fouls per minute, and shooting motion, among others. Here are some major points Blair stands to improve on going forward:

    -Lateral quickness: While I never expect Blair to have the lateral quickness of a much lighter player, I feel that exercises and drills to increase his horizontal mobility would benefit him greatly, particularly on the defensive end. There are times when the man he is defending gets around him at ease, and there are also times when he takes too long to rotate toward a penetrating guard. An increased focus on this skill will help him on a play-by-play basis, and sometimes a split second is the difference between a block and a charge, between an easy layup and an altered shot, between giving up a baseline slam dunk and your opponent stepping out of bounds. Continued work in this area should benefit every part of this game, but especially his defensive presence.

    -Free-throw shooting: Blair thus far has a FT% of 54%. In his college years at Pitt, he hit 62% and 61% respectively, so it's possible that he's underachieving by 5-10% as it is. While improving this shot isn't a NECESSITY per se (Shaq has been a star in this league with a career FT% of 53%), it would be a huge boost for a couple reasons. Obviously, going back to Shaq, you want to avoid any sort of Bump-a-Blair strategy. More importantly, however, with the offensive game that Blair has, he's capable of getting to the line A LOT. Improving his FT% to even 65-75% would be huge in the grand scheme of things. The good news is, this is something the Spurs have started to work on with Blair. While he hasn't shown major improvement in percentages (he's hit 54% the last 26 games vs. 50% the first 22), his current shot has much better arc than the old one, which is a big step toward being anti-Shaq in this regard. Only time will tell, but I believe we'll see a better percentage next year after an entire offseason of working with the Spurs coaching staff.

    -Short to mid-range jumper: While Blair has shown minor flashes of being able to hit a 5-10 footer, it's not something we've seen consistently from him. As the next step in his offensive development, this needs to be a major focus for the big man. If he can even learn a steady 4-9 foot jumper, much less a 10-15 footer, he'll be extremely hard to stop. While this is far from the only thing Blair needs to work on, it's perhaps the most important one if he's going to go from role player to starter/star in this league. If you have to deal with Blair both under the rim AND 12 feet from the basket...watch out world, and good luck.

    -Defense without fouling: As I mentioned before, Blair has already made strides in this department. In his first 22 games as a Spur, he averaged 6.11 PF per 36 minutes. In the last 26 games, he's averaged 4.38 PF per 36 minutes. While I don't expect him to get up to the level of Tim Duncan (roughly 2.6 PF per 36 minutes), getting below 4.0 would allow him to stay on the court for basically as long as he needs to. Also, this is a department where he needs more consistency; there are times when he still makes "dumb fouls," and if he can get the dumb fouls to smart fouls ratio at a better level, it will certainly help. However, as most of you know, defense w/o fouling is about more than playing more minutes. With proper focus, this generally yields more fundamental defensive techniques, and allows fewer points per possession for the opponent. In addition, fouling less on an average possession would allow Blair to play with more of what I call “smart aggression.” While swiping at the ball less is part of what will lower his fouls per minute, not being in foul trouble will allow him to pick his opportunities as they arise, to throw his weight around more and go after more blocks and steals when the opposing player makes mistakes. With DeJuan's length, increased steals and blocks in this regard could be a real asset.

    -Endurance and conditioning: Don't get me wrong, for a guy of Blair's size and build, he's in good shape. He has a muscular physique and does a good job of running the floor in short bursts. Given my comments above about DeJuan's hustle and effort, I doubt he'll ever be a consistent 35-40 mpg player (again, similar to Manu Ginobili). However, while he has shown the ability to play 25-30 minutes in some games, he'll need continued conditioning work if he's ever going to be a regular starter in this league, playing 30 mpg in 82 straight games. There are times when he lumbers slowly up the court a bit after extended stretches of playing time, and there have been a couple brief stretches of the season where fatigue seemed to set in. In many ways, this point is true of all rookies who are used to playing 30-40 games in a college season; however, it is doubly true of a guy with Blair's build. As he gets more and more into "NBA shape," he will find it easier to keep his overall physical effort at improving his game on par with his superb mental effort.


    So, all this being said, the main question I have about DeJuan Blair is this: what is his ceiling? Despite the quick learning ability he has shown, is it possible that he'll never develop a complete offensive game? Is it possible that, for one reason or another, he'll never be able to consistently play more than 22 minutes per game, and all we'll be able to do is marvel at his per minute numbers? Or, on the other end of the spectrum, is he capable of becoming the next Charles Barkley? Almost undoubtably, the truth is somewhere in-between. However, this is such a wide spectrum that I'm sure we'll all be anxiously watching and waiting to see the next steps in the future of DeJuan Blair.
    I bow down to you, good sir.

    I will be the first to admit in this thread I hype Blair up any chance I get, but when I see a SIX FOOT SEVEN CENTER doing what Blair has been doing the entire season, I can't help it. Counting all the pluses, and even all of the inuses, you have to consider that he will get better in every way as his season goes on because he truly wants to improve, and is willing to put in the work needed to accomplish that. And like you said, he is a wider version of Manu, who is my favorite player of all time.

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    Great post and spot-on analysis.

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    As a Pennsylvania native and Pitt fan, I'm thrilled to see the level of success Blair has already achieved. As a height-challenged, former PF (strictly high school, intramural, and YMCA level), I really appreciate what he does with what he has.

    More importantly, thank you lurker, for what is indeed a huge raising of the bar.

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    Nice read.

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    Great post.
    Blair is having a amazing rookie year.

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    Heavy D is the future!!

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    Excellent post.

    It will be amazing to watch when he will physically be able to put forth maximum effort for 30 minutes a game. Hopefully, an offseason of pro-work will yield results similar to the George Hill leap.

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    Some good points about Blair's jumper going around. I really don't expect him to ever really develop an 18 footer, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. On the other hand, having a guy with a solid 12 footer can sometimes be more valuable than someone pushing three point range. Barkley, for example, shot about 2 three-pointers per game at a rate of 26.6%. I'd rather have a guy who knows his range than a guy who pushes it for low percentages. I think Blair will stay grounded to his range (despite his three point attempt during the Rookie Challenge. ).

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    Karl Malone learned to shoot when he came into the NBA. So did Parker, Lebron is a better shooter than when he came into the League; and so is Rose.

    Anyone can learn to shoot if they keep working at it...another perfect example is George Hill.
    Malone, good point. He became a great shooter.

    The other guys... I'm not sold yet!

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    It's experienced length where he'll show the most issue. Gasol showed that even when bumped off his spot, Pau's footwork kept him in the frame to pester DeJuan's shot's.
    He need's to be able to incorporate a spin move and continue to use the rim to fend off defenders.

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    It's hard to temper excitement over Blair when considering he has no actual semblence of an offensive game. Given the noted work ethic and BBIQ, I think it's entirely possible DeJuan shows the most improvement in two areas...

    1) Extend shooting range out to 15ft. DeJuan has already proven he can handle his man off the dribble and is deceptively quick getting to the bucket when doing so. If he can make the defender respect his mid-range game, it essentially completes his face-up game.

    2) Learning to avoid shot-blockers. A few keys here are patience, position and moves. DeJuan has shown flashes of all three, but as he learns the last one and gets more time against bigger, longer opponents he'll become increasingly more effective.

    Given an off-season of learning from two of the greats (Duncan for low-post and Engelland for mid-range) and some more PT against NBA Centers, I think there's a great deal of hope that DeJuan can be a core player in the future of this franchise.
    Last edited by AFBlue; 02-14-2010 at 12:46 AM.

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    Nice writeup/evaluation. Blair is making all the other coaches/GM's cry even more after watching him in the Rookie-Soph game. Glad we were able to get him.

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    Great post!

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    My own personal assesment is that the key will be how much he learns on defense. His offense is going to be driven by good passing (ie getting fed on the pick and roll), and offense). This is not a league anymore, where a short power player can isolate and back down a la Charles Barkley. His D on the other hand could easily surpass Barkley, who never really gave a damn. My summer project for Blair would be to study as much of Chuck Hayes's D as possible. Blair has better physical tools than Hayes; if he can pick up some of the technique, he will be a much bigger impact as a player.
    Blair is probably never going to have significant lower body strength because of the missing ACL's. It's been easy to see that he severely lacks strength in his legs because he can't elevate more than 5-6 inches off the floor and as lurker pointed out his lateral quickness is terrible. What he does have however is that extreme leverage that Hayes has... and that is due to packing 270 lbs on a 6'6" frame.

    But expecting him to ever be in the same category as a Chuck Hayes type defensive player is hoping for a miracle. And playing him alongside Bonner is going to be risky, since Bonner is no defensive giant himself.

    That's why we need to either play Ian or Ratliff or trade for a more athletic defensive oriented guy like Tyrus Thomas.

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    That's why we need to either play Ian or Ratliff or trade for a more athletic defensive oriented guy like Tyrus Thomas.
    Since when is Tyrus Thomas a defensive oriented player?

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    Since when is Tyrus Thomas a defensive oriented player?
    He has the tools to be a top notch defender.

    In the playoffs last year he was a big part of the bulls' defense. Averaged 3 blocks a game in that series. And he's pretty strong with decent size so he can get out and guard bigger guys. And he's quick/agile enough the samller ones. He'd be good against a variety of players, Lamar Odom comes to mind especially.

    Just watched him do a fairly decent job guarding Dwight Howard last week in the post. Held his ground against Dwight, which is more than alot of centers with 30+ lbs on him can say.

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    Blair is going to get more fouls called for him and fewer fouls called on him as the referees accord him the respect that a skilled veteran gets.

    He's already picking up fewer fouls per minute. One can argue that he is learning how not to get caught--and I agree with that. But I think refs also play a part in deferring to good players who are getting solid minutes.

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    The West would have been even more screwed if the Nuggets had drafted this kid

    The Nuggets were going to draft him but got cheap at the last second and sold the pick

    Lawson and Blair in the one draft?
    Was so pissed when they passed on him and sold the pick. Imagine having Lawson/JR/Graham/Blair/Birdman coming off the bench....

    Sadly it wasn't meant to be.

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    Blair is probably never going to have significant lower body strength because of the missing ACL's. It's been easy to see that he severely lacks strength in his legs because he can't elevate more than 5-6 inches off the floor and as lurker pointed out his lateral quickness is terrible. What he does have however is that extreme leverage that Hayes has... and that is due to packing 270 lbs on a 6'6" frame.

    But expecting him to ever be in the same category as a Chuck Hayes type defensive player is hoping for a miracle. And playing him alongside Bonner is going to be risky, since Bonner is no defensive giant himself.

    That's why we need to either play Ian or Ratliff or trade for a more athletic defensive oriented guy like Tyrus Thomas.
    5 or 6 inches elevation...

    I take it you don't see many games on TV?

    Did you see his rookie game dunk?

    An NBA basket is 10 ft tall. Blair's standing reach is 8'10.5". Blair can dunk...
    DO THE MATH...

    Laterally slower, yes. When compared at the combine measurements

    Hayes - 232 lbs, No Step Vertical Reach 11'2.5", Max Vertical Reach 11'5.5" Agility Test 10.7 seconds
    Blair - 277 lbs, No Step Vertical Reach 11'0.5", Max Vertical Reach 11'7.5" Agility Test 11.5 seconds

    Values from Draftexpress.com

    Note that Blair has shed more weight. His agility should get better with reduced weight and improved footwork (note that Hayes has 6 years more practice and polish than Blair). Blair may take a while to get there, and he may only get to 75% of the way. But that would make him about 3 times the defensive player Barkley ever was. And combined with his rebounding, would make him a significant force on both ends of the court...

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    Damn, Lurker ... yeoman effort; I know that took a good chunk of time

    I don't think his feel for the game, in terms of spacial relationships on both boards and passing ability, is something he truly gets enough credit for; he's a highly intelligent basketball player (even if prone with the occasional lapse of focus). And his feet are much better and quicker than most would lead you to believe.

    I assume that the lacking of ACL's, even if his body has adapted, hinders his ability to get side-to-side to some degree; sticking the cleats in the turf (so to speak) and changing direction, just can't be the same as it would be with normal, healthy knees. But I haven't seen an inability, physically, that prevents him from playing good-to-great position D.

    What's been the source of miscues and mental lapses, in my view, is the same thing that has the opportunity to make him truly special: he's equipped without a filter or firewall.

    Take a Moses Malone from yesteryear, or, better yet, some of the younger bigs of today: Amar'e, Z. Randolph and T. Thomas, just to name a few, lack a conscience that allows them to make the play in real time; there's never much hesitation: see ball, get ball. Catch ball, shoot ball. Given the right tutelage early on, it's a very useful trait.

    Without the right tutelage, however, that lack of a filter or firewall leaves a player susceptible to contamination or virus; Stoudemire, Thomas and Randolph (the latter seems to have had a successful reboot) developed poor habits, technique and at udes, that have, thus far, prevented them from harnessing their gifts to their full potential.

    DeJuan came into the league with some poor defensive habits; defensively, his stance left plenty to be desired, he was prone to reach instead of moving his feet and he'd even defend to rebound more than deter the shot or play, at times. But he is only 20, and he's had the extreme fortune of falling into a perfect situation for a young developing post player: Tim Duncan and a no-nonsense team is exactly what the doctor ordered. (If only Stoudemire, Thomas and Randolph were so lucky)

    As you noted, the defensive strides and foul-rates show that his habits and technique have improved pretty significantly in his short time with the Spurs. If you look at his free-throw shot and jumper (when he does occasionally break it out) it's the same routine, stroke and motion, for the most part, each time he takes his shot; he's told what needs to be done and he does his best to execute it without exception. He shows a trust and willingness in his coaches and their coaching; he's a sponge.

    Despite the lack of developed youth, lamented by many on this board, my hopes are high for Blair and his prospects with this team and staff. DeJuan's got all the requisite talent and tools to be a of a player on his own, but the leadership and guidance he's been blessed with should allow him to reach as close to his full potential as possible; seeing as David Lee just made an All-Star team, such an honor's not out of the realm for Blair some day.

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