thanks.
I looked at other articles from this writer. there was one aspect, that caught my attention:
the discussed package of Mason, Bonner, Fin (+pick?) for TT and Salmons doesn't send back a lot of quality, but what for sure can be said is, that those are 3 guys, who are/were regular rotation players for a Western PO team. should be good enough for the rotation of an Eastern borderline PO team either.If you've been watching then you may have noticed depth isn't exactly the Bulls greatest strength. Rose, Hinrich, Salmons, Deng, Tyrus, Gibson, Miller, Noah.
That's eight guys, no one else on the team has shown they can come close to playing at a level to belong in the eight man rotation. Of those eight guys, Noah and Gibson have plantar fasciitis.
if depth (especially front court depth) is an issue for the Bulls, maybe the addition of Ian or Ratliff is somehow intriguing for the Bulls.
for the Spurs it wouldn't matter.
maybe the trade packages of:
Salmons-TT-Pargo for Mason-Fin-Bonner-Ian/Ratliff (+pick)
would make the most sense on both sides.
(note: if Ratliff is included, the trade doesn't work. some adjustments are necessary)
edit: I wonder if the Bulls might show some interest in De Colo's rights. Bulls know very well how to value performances in Europe (especially Spain) and De Colo has been impressive enough to look at least like very good value for a late 2nd round pick. Bulls can't know who they can/will bring in 2010 (Wade? Joe Johnson? Bosh? produce pretty different situations.). a very versatile guy, who could become a bit of a glue guy in the back court, might be an intriguing option for the future.
Last edited by mountainballer; 02-13-2010 at 09:26 AM.
Not really because you had to consider the luxury tax.
The best trade package for Spurs would be this trade without Pargo included. Between his salary and his remaining salary, Pargo would cost $2.7M to Spurs. It's a lot of money for a player who has been awful this year.
Bulls will still stay below the tax with Pargo removed of this trade and they don't really have roster spot troubles to do a 2 for 4 trade.
+1
2.7 million extra on the cap for a player who would be dressed in a coat most of the time is a little steep.
@ Tyrus Thomas
Thomas has no IQ to play with Pop, he will be lost here, no way that works
Tyrus thomas sucks.
Does anyone here even watch the nba?
now that the Mavs/Wizards trade is complete, Spurs need to get do the Salmons/Thomas trade or if possible Iggy/Dalembert trade
Do any of you naysayers have any other realistic options? Or would you just rather stand pat?
That's what I thought......
Camby?
Tyrus Thomas w/ Salmons?
Iggy w/ Dalembert or Brand?
PICK ONE
For all those naysayers:
As if this Spurs team, as currently constructed, has a "snowball's chance in " of competing with the Fakers - or making a deep playoff run for that matter.
This is not just about getting Thomas, it's also nabbing Salmons too.
Offering Mason, Bonner & Finley, in exchange for those two works, but the Bulls will probably want some sweetener. That's when the Spurs may need to throw in either Splitter's rights, a pick, or some other fluff.
If the Spurs don't parlay these expiring contracts for these two younger, more talented players, then it is THEY who are ing themselves.
I wouldn't part with a first rounder or Splitter, but Mason/Ian/Bonner/Finley for Thomas/Salmons I would do in a heartbeat
!st round picks are like gold. Because the picks are going to be so important to an aging team like the Spurs, I wouldn't part with one either. Instead, I would try and sell them either Splitter's rights.
Personally, I wouldn't part with Ian. He's on the roster and we KNOW of his raw skills and talent potential. I'd much rather part with Spiltter's rights. After all, there's no guarantees he'll be in the NBA next season.
Either way, the Spurs NEED to get this deal done.
Ian is much more expendable than Splitter. Ian is getting no playing time this year and is an expiring contract. I don't see the Spurs bringing him back if they do not plan on playing him this year.
Splitter is a wild card who could be an immediate rotation player next year.
John Salmons helps versus the Lakers. For whatever reason, he plays very well against Kobe.
Tyrus Thomas...does San Antonio really need another 6'9" 220 pound undersized "Center" to defend 7'1 280 pound Andrew Bynum?
Gasol does a great job of taking out Bynum. Spurs are more concerned about Gasol than Kareemshaqwilt Jr.
Bynum isn't the matchup problem for the Spurs, it's Odom. And theoretically Thomas is quick and athletic enough to defend him.
The problem is whether Pop would elect to play Thomas when he inevitably shortens his rotation come playoff time.
At this point though, if all it takes are piece-parts and something other than Blair or Hill to get the both of them...I say why not?
Haywood was the last hope, I don't know anybody else we could get that fits the bill. Thomas+Salmons is definitly an upgrade from Mason/Bonner/Finley, no one can deny that, but I agree that it doesn't do much to help the spurs against the Lakers frontcourt
Word this weekend is that Bynum is getting shifted to the bench to solve the Gasol/Bynum problem. They both play great apart from each other.
If that's the case, Gasol+Odom to start against Duncan/Dice?
Kareemshaqwilt jr off the bench would probably put up 20/10 on Bonner or Tyrus Thomas
I think you can replace Hill but a mad rebounder like Blair is gonna be difficult to replace.
but if Thomas can help guard Odom and get some block shots that is a positive.
That is possible if Tyrus gets put into the starting lineup. That would leave Dice on Bynum which I'm not sure he can guard.
From what I've noticed, Thomas isn't much of an Odom stopper. Ben Gordon scored well on the Lakers. Salmons and Hinrich give the Lakers more problems than Tyrus from what I remember.
Wouldn't be worth it to get rid of either.
If Hill can play alongside Tony, as he's proven he can do thus far, I think his value to this team long-term outweighs most short-term gains.
And Blair is a rookie who can put up 20-20 games and has potential to grow...nuff said.
As for Mahinmi, unnamed first round pick or Splitter's rights...given the right situation I wouldn't have issue parting with any of them.
since when is Odom in the starting lineup for the Lakers: Fisher, Kobe, Artest, Bynum, Gasol
Odom comes off the bench
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