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  1. #1
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Seems like it. Discuss.

    Jason Kidd
    Caron Butler
    Shawn Marion
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Brenden Haywood

    Deshawn Stevenson
    Jason Terry
    Erick Dampier
    Eduardo Najera
    Tim Thomas
    Jose Barea
    Rodrigue Beaubois
    Matt Carroll

    VS.

    Derek Fisher
    Kobe Bryant
    Ron Artest
    Pau Gasol
    Andrew Bynum

    Lamar Odom
    Shannon Brown
    Jordan Farmar
    Didier Ilunga-Mbenga
    Adam Morrison
    Josh Powell
    Sasha Vujacic
    Luke Walton

  2. #2
    Believe.
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    Lakers are top heavy but Mavericks are deeper (on paper). Whether its a good mix in Dallas, we'll soon find out. I still think the Lakers are the team to beat in the West. Now if Cleveland gets Amare, then y'all can forget about repeating.

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    Lakers have more players who can create a shot. From a 1-12th man standpoint I think the Mavs are more deep but LA has more talent even with the end of the bench scrubs

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    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    no.

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    I Feel You Def Rowe's Avatar
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    I still feel like the Mavs lack defense in the paint.

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    Believe.
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    Holy ing the Mavs are really deep lol. You have Shawn Marion coming off the bench for Caron Butler? Those are two All Star caliber players. And they no longer have to tolerate Dampier's incompetent ass. he's coming off the bench too to back up a center suited for the Mavs. Brendan Haywood is going to tear up some ass in the West.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Haywood is the cat that scares me. I have him on my fantasy bball team and he is a beast. Him and Dampier in the center position just made it harder for the Lakers to repeat.

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    Veteran LkrFan's Avatar
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    No - they are not. Kidd cannot play 48 mpg anymore. If he could, I would worry... a little. Kidd can orchestrate their offense and get their shooters and finishers the ball in their sweet spots.

    That being said they still don't have enough to get past LA. We've seen these last 3 games (without Kobe) what our team can do. Most importantly, so did Kobe.

    Back on topic. Let's look at the matchups:

    Kidd >>> Fish
    Kobe >>> Caron
    Artest > Marion
    Pau > Dirk
    Bynum > Brendan

    Farmar > JJ Barea
    Terry > Shannon
    Luke > Matt Carroll
    LO >>> Tim Thomas
    Dampier > Mbenga

    Lakers take 7 of the 10 matchups plus we have players that have been in the same system from 2.5 - 10 years (which is good for chemistry).

    LA would take this Mavs team out in 6 at worst IMO.

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    Believe.
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    Lakers have more players who can create a shot. From a 1-12th man standpoint I think the Mavs are more deep but LA has more talent even with the end of the bench scrubs
    Negative.

    Lakers that can create shots

    Kobe
    Farmar
    Gasol
    Odom


    Mavs that can create shot

    Dirk
    Kidd
    Marion
    Terry
    Stevenson
    Butler

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    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    No - they are not. Kidd cannot play 48 mpg anymore. If he could, I would worry... a little. Kidd can orchestrate their offense and get their shooters and finishers the ball in their sweet spots.

    That being said they still don't have enough to get past LA. We've seen these last 3 games (without Kobe) what our team can do. Most importantly, so did Kobe.

    Back on topic. Let's look at the matchups:

    Kidd >>> Fish
    Kobe >>> Caron
    Artest > Marion
    Pau > Dirk
    Bynum > Brendan

    Farmar > JJ Barea
    Terry > Shannon
    Luke > Matt Carroll
    LO >>> Tim Thomas
    Dampier > Mbenga

    Lakers take 7 of the 10 matchups plus we have players that have been in the same system from 2.5 - 10 years (which is good for chemistry).

    LA would take this Mavs team out in 6 at worst IMO.
    Im assuming this is a troll......

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Negative.

    Lakers that can create shots

    Kobe
    Farmar
    Gasol
    Odom


    Mavs that can create shot

    Dirk
    Kidd
    Marion
    Terry
    Stevenson
    Butler
    agree....but take marion off that list.

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    Luck the Fakers Bob Lanier's Avatar
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    I still feel like the Mavs lack defense in the paint.
    From a fan of the team whose best defensive big is Lamar Odom, that's not necessarily helpful.

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    Believe.
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    Haywood is the cat that scares me. I have him on my fantasy bball team and he is a beast. Him and Dampier in the center position just made it harder for the Lakers to repeat.
    Hye man, are those your shoes on your avatar?

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    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    Mavs that can create shot

    Dirk
    Kidd
    Marion
    Terry
    Stevenson
    Butler

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    Veteran LkrFan's Avatar
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    Im assuming this is a troll......
    Nope - just a confident Laker fan since 1983. Were you born then?

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    I have no idea who I would go for in a 7 game series.

    Dallas made a great trade.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Hye man, are those your shoes on your avatar?
    i have the shoes, but those arnt specifically mine. Same goes for the All star Kobes on my sig.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Good, maybe they will choke again in the playoffs instead of just losing to the better team.

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    Maybe not Marion, but Kidd can still create shots, just not like he used to. And why the are you lauging at Stevenson? I live in DC and watch this guy play all the time. His efficiency sucks but the dude can flat out score inside-out.

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    i have the shoes, but those arnt specifically mine. Same goes for the All star Kobes on my sig.
    Not bad. I dont like them yellows on shoes, but those look nice.

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    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    Nope - just a confident Laker fan since 1983. Were you born then?
    Being confident is great, and you should be. Lakers are the big dogs in the West. But dont be stupid. How is the difference between Caron and Kobe the same as the difference between Kidd and Fisher. Fisher blows. And at Pau>Dirk. Only lakerfan....

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    What? bostonguy's Avatar
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    Now if Cleveland gets Amare, then y'all can forget about repeating.
    If the Cavs get Amare, you can start the dynasty talks. That is the perfect recipe the Cavs need if they want to be built for the long haul. They can replace all the other guys.

  23. #23
    Scarlett our Goddess4ever
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    Kidd >>> Fish
    Kobe >>> Caron
    Artest > Marion
    Pau > Dirk
    Bynum > Brendan

    Farmar > JJ Barea
    Terry > Shannon
    Luke > Matt Carroll
    LO >>> Tim Thomas
    Dampier > Mbenga
    Pau > Dirk

  24. #24
    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    Maybe not Marion, but Kidd can still create shots, just not like he used to. And why the are you lauging at Stevenson? I live in DC and watch this guy play all the time. His efficiency sucks but the dude can flat out score inside-out.
    Thinking about it, Marion can probably create his own shot more than Kidd. Marions been doing some post moves lately. Literally all the points Kidd gets are set up jumpers. Usually from Dirk kicking it out to him. He cannot create his shot.

    I've heard from Wizard fans that Stevenson is ing atrocious. hes shooting 28% from the floor and 17% from three. He probably wont get any playing time.

  25. #25
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Not bad. I dont like them yellows on shoes, but those look nice.
    Yah those are the Kobe V's Bruce Lee Editions...those red marks in the front of the shoe replicate the 4 scratches on Bruce Lee's face.

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