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  1. #26
    Veteran LkrFan's Avatar
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    Being confident is great, and you should be. Lakers are the big dogs in the West. But dont be stupid. How is the difference between Caron and Kobe the same as the difference between Kidd and Fisher. Fisher blows. And at Pau>Dirk. Only lakerfan....
    Things that Pau does better then Dirk

    1. Better in the post
    2. Better rebounder
    3. Better swatter
    4. Better passer
    5. Better defender
    6. Win a championship

    Things Dirk does better than Pau

    1. Shoot the 3
    2. Shoot jumpers
    3. Not win a championship

    Pau can play center. Dirk? Dirk is a jumpshot shooting 7 footer. Avery begged him to get on the block. So much that Dirk refused and y'all were "upset" by the Warriors.

    To each his own. Laker fan or not, give me Pau 24/7 over offensive minded Dirk. Actually, take the D out. He is _irk to me.

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    This guy needs to watch more basketball

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    Thinking about it, Marion can probably create his own shot more than Kidd. Marions been doing some post moves lately. Literally all the points Kidd gets are set up jumpers. Usually from Dirk kicking it out to him. He cannot create his shot.

    I've heard from Wizard fans that Stevenson is ing atrocious. hes shooting 28% from the floor and 17% from three. He probably wont get any playing time.
    See, yeah, we agree. Sorta lol.

    But yeah, you're right about Stevenson's numbers, his efficiency does blow, maybe its the system, or maybe everything just sucks in Washington right now, thats why most players are shooting career lows . But he's a pretty good insurance off the bench. He was decent abt 2-3 years ago against Cleveland and did a great job defending Bron on some occassions (Bron shot 42% in that series), Im not saying he shut Bron down but again, he held his own numerous times.

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    Dirk is a better scorer than Pau, but he doesn't post up well in the paint as Pau. Basically I don't think one would have the advantage over the other.

    Also, Bynum > Haywood, Kobe >>> Butler. Marion > Artest. Kidd > Fisher. Terry > Brown, Odom > anyone else on Mavs bench, but the rest of the bench may go to Dallas.

    Difference maybe Kobe and Pau/Dirk.

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    Poppin' Champagne badfish22's Avatar
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    This guy needs to watch more basketball
    But Pau has a ring!

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Dirk is a better scorer than Pau, but he doesn't post up well in the paint as Pau. Basically I don't think one would have the advantage over the other.

    Also, Bynum > Haywood, Kobe >>> Butler. Marion > Artest. Kidd > Fisher. Terry > Brown, Odom > anyone else on Mavs bench, but the rest of the bench may go to Dallas.

    Difference maybe Kobe and Pau/Dirk.
    I think Bynum=Haywood in terms of rebounds and defense and Marion = Artest. Everything else i agree on.

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    Ignoring the points because we know Pau won't get the same looks that _irk gets because of Kobe:

    Pau
    11.2 rpg
    3.5 apg
    1.8 bpg
    52.4% FG
    80% FT

    _irk
    7.7 rpg
    2.4 apg
    1.1 bpg
    47.6% FG
    89% FT

    So again, we've seen what Pau can do. Back to back 21/19/5block games all in a 3 game win streak against playoff teams without Kobe.

    Yeah, Pau > _irk.

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    Pau can play center.
    Last time Pau tried to play C, the Lakers got poked in the butt by Boston.

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    Things that Pau does better then Dirk

    1. Better in the post
    2. Better rebounder
    3. Better swatter
    4. Better passer
    5. Better defender
    6. Win a championship
    Things Dirk does better than Pau

    1. Shoot the 3
    2. Shoot jumpers
    3. Not win a championship
    Pau can play center. Dirk? Dirk is a jumpshot shooting 7 footer. Avery begged him to get on the block. So much that Dirk refused and y'all were "upset" by the Warriors.

    To each his own. Laker fan or not, give me Pau 24/7 over offensive minded Dirk. Actually, take the D out. He is _irk to me.
    Dirk was a former MVP who led a team to the Finals. Pau is good, Top 10 good IMO, but he aint no Dirk. And that's not a diss on Gasol. I do agree that Pau is a better rebounder and defender though. Absolutely.

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    I do think Pau's game makes the rest of his teammates better compared to Dirk because of his presence in the post and passing, etc., but Dirk is really hard to guard defensively.

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    I do think Pau's game makes the rest of his teammates better compared to Dirk because of his presence in the post and passing, etc., but Dirk is really hard to guard defensively.
    True. because Gasol does'nt really emphasize scoring. He's a great player because he touches all aspects of the game. He'll score for you, cleans the glass, swats and is always a willing passer. True student of the game no diggity doubt.

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    Last time Pau tried to play C, the Lakers got poked in the butt by Boston.
    Get your facts right. The last time Pau played center, he helped hold D12 in check and won a ring. Remember, Bynum was 65% at best and was always in foul trouble.

    The Pau trade shook up the world. You guys traded your future PG for old as Kidd. SA did some dumb junk too (like acquire Jefferson). Etc. Pop wasn't PO'd for nothing when he saw the Lakers trade for Gasol - knowing that Bynum was coming back.

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    Dirk was a former MVP who led a team to the Finals. Pau is good, Top 10 good IMO, but he aint no Dirk. And that's not a diss on Gasol. I do agree that Pau is a better rebounder and defender though. Absolutely.
    _irk won MVP the year he couldn't get past his old coach in the biggest "upset" in league history. Some "MVP"


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    _irk won MVP the year he couldn't get past his old coach in the biggest "upset" in league history. Some "MVP"

    Bad matchup? Sure. How the can you pin this on one guy?


    Did'nt Kobe got an ass whoopin from the Celtics when he won MVP that year? Should we blame Kobe? no. One player does'nt make the team son.

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    Who's troll is this?

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    Bad matchup? Sure. How the can you pin this on one guy?


    Did'nt Kobe got an ass whoopin from the Celtics when he won MVP that year? Should we blame Kobe? no. One player does'nt make the team son.
    Kobe was in the Finals and was hardly the reason we lost. We were without 2 starters. What was _irk's excuse?

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    I do think Dirk could have done more that series like how Boozer destroyed the Warriors in the paint, but he needed more help as well. Plus the Warriors had some serious scorers on their team as well and they were all hot. Honestly Golden State choked the first two games away at Utah which crippled their chances in the series. They could have easily won that series.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Mavs have always had a stacked team. Their problem was chemistry.

    This trade will improve their chemistry and professionalism.

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    Deeper? sure..the Lakers have a huge advantage at the top though..Pau and Dirk are pretty equal and then the Lakers have the 2nd best player in the NBA to top it off, and a notorious Mav killer..that's where the Lakers' advantage kills Dallas IMO..

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    Pau looks so cute when he tries to win a playoff game as the franchise player.
    Last edited by Dirkadirkastan; 02-14-2010 at 05:01 AM.

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    Haywood < Bynum
    Dirk > Gasol
    Butler > Artest
    Jet < Kobe
    Kidd > Fisher

    Mavs bench = Odom, Farmar, and Brown

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    The Nuggets, yes the Nuggets, still have a better shot at beating the Lakers right now than the Mavs do. But after the Nuggets, the Mavs have the next best chance after this trade now.

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    Who's troll is this?
    You don't have to be a troll to say and actually bealive that Pau Gasol is a better player than a 7 footer that shoots less than 50% from the field, gets less than 10 rbds per game and isn't a presence inside?
    Last edited by DAF86; 02-14-2010 at 06:08 AM.

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    Pau looks so cute when he tries to win a playoff game as the franchise player.
    That was 4 years ago lol. Pau is the 2nd fiddle on a championship team and still has franchise talent.

    But let's see _irk do that to Pau's team now.

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    Lakers who can create a shot :

    kobe
    artest
    lamar
    pau
    bynum
    farmar


    who am i missing? that original list someone made was bogus, left out bynum and artest

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