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Just as I thought, back on here after midnight and no sign or rumor of a real tradeThis is getting very bleak to say the least. Mavs get better we stay put, just f in great.
No it is not.
Just as I thought, back on here after midnight and no sign or rumor of a real trade
What do you expect from a speculation thread, nothing but dreamers in here. You go to this thread if you need a good laugh.Just as I thought, back on here after midnight and no sign or rumor of a real trade
dont worry, the mythic, awesome 'SPLITTER' is coming to save us all
Right now, Splitter's game is the equivalent of Shawn bradley's minus the height and block shots.dont worry, the mythic, awesome 'SPLITTER' is coming to save us all
Just as I thought, back on here after midnight and no sign or rumor of a real trade
Pop and RC are completely gun shy after the RJ fiasco. Not sure they have 2 balls left between them.
I'll be satisfied with a tall defensive presence that Pop is willing to play.
Celtics want young talent for Allen
By Marc J. Spears
The Boston Celtics discussed a possible trade for Caron Butler before the Washington Wizards decided to send him to Dallas. The Celtics also have inquired about the availability of Golden State Warriors guard Monta Ellis, Sacramento Kings guard Kevin Martin and Philadelphia 76ers swingman Andre Iguodala. None of the talks have become substantive.
The Celtics would likely include Ray Allen in any big deal, but have made it clear they want an upper-echelon young player in return, regardless of position.
The Celtics also reached out to the Phoenix Suns about Amar’e Stoudemire, but don’t have the means to get a deal done.
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The Portland Trail Blazers, Houston Rockets and Miami Heat were interested in acquiring center Brendan Haywood from the Wizards, but couldn’t put together an adequate offer before the Mavericks landed him.
The Blazers offered Steve Blake, rookie Jeff Pendergraph and a first-round pick for Haywood. When Washington countered by asking for swingman Rudy Fernandez, the Blazers declined. Blazers owner Paul Allen is a big fan of Fernandez.
Haywood turned down a four-year, $35 million contract extension from Washington last summer, but a source said the Mavericks hope to re-sign him after the season.
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The Lakers have tried to move Luke Walton and Sasha Vujacic to shed some salary before Thursday’s trade deadline. One league source the Lakers have even had discussions with one of their Pacific Division rivals: the Blazers. The Blazers, the source said, seem more focused on landing a big man.
Yes and that will not help us at all, Dallas got better, they were already on par or a game or so better, now they get better and we stand pat? Welp thats not good enough! We are fodder now, the 4th or 5th best team in the west and thats that.
Yeah thats great, still no mention of us trading for jack shyt so I could care less and will go to bed depressed again tonight. Great win over Denver, then this Dallas thing happens and now we are behind them even further again. GOOD LORD THIS year is a nightmare, a flat out nightmare for our offseason we had.
Trade RJ for Ray Allen. We need a trade!
Sources: Hickson, Ilgauskas to Suns
By Chris Broussard
The Cleveland Cavaliers and Phoenix Suns are closing in on a deal that would send All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire to Cleveland, according to sources with knowledge of the negotiations.
The Cavaliers would send Zydrunas Ilgauskas and J.J. Hickson to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire, one of the league's most dominant big man.
While Cleveland remains in talks with several other teams, the club, from management down to the players, has settled on Stoudemire as its first choice.
The ball is in Phoenix's court. The Suns are mulling whether the financial relief provided by Ilgauskas's $12 million contract and the young and talented Hickson are enough for them to part with Stoudemire.
Cleveland believes the addition of Stoudemire would all but seal LeBron James' re-signing with the team when he becomes a free agent this summer. The Cavaliers are also prepared to sign Stoudemire, who has one year and $17 million remaining on his contract, to a long-term contract extension once the season ends.
The Suns will likely waive Ilgauskas, which would allow him to be re-signed by Cleveland after 30 days.
Cleveland is also talking with Washington about acquiring Antawn Jamison, as well as Indiana about Troy Murphy. Meanwhile, Golden State is trying to entice the Cavs into taking Corey Maggette for Ilgauskas.
Chris Broussard is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913305
Haywood turned down a 4 year 35mil contract... so he thinks he's gonna be worth more than 9m a year? Wow, Mark Cuban can you say Erick Dampier part 2?
Maybe he turned it down because he didn't want to play for the Wizards anymore. It's easier to go when you are a free agent.
This is exactly why the league needs a ing hard cap. Basically they'll be trading JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudamire if this goes through. I'm not sure how much he helps them besides Shaq, but it's still ing shameful how much this league is driven by money rather then basketball.
I get what you're sayin about the inequity of salary, but taking a look at the trade itself, Stoudemire and Shaq were a horrible combination in PHO and if this trade went through the cavs will be a worse team
Hickson is the perfect complimentary player for Lebron, he's a guy who is always cutting to the rim and getting easy dunks from Lebron's talented passing ability.
I can't even imagine what Stoudemire would even do in the cavs offense without Shaq around. With Shaq it would be a total disaster. Stoudemire is just going to stand around at the free throw and elbows waiting for passes.. which aren't going to come. Lebron will have one less really good option to work with which is going to hurt.
This is one of those cases where star power < good role player fit. I hope the cavs are really dumb enough to do this.
Tryng to have a little fantasy in trades, here is a possible three teams scenario :
s.a. : Maggette and Murphy
G.S. : Jefferson
Indiana : Finley + Bonner + B. Wright + 2nd (first ?) SA Draft choice
It works on ESPN trade machine...and there are reasons for all the teams involved to make it...
That would be good for both teams. We need a 3pt shooter an they want someone like him an Rondo would set him up way better than any Spur could! I'm going to pray for this trade.
Would you guys be willing to part ways with a young talent like Blair in order to dump RJ's salary? Do you think this FO would pull the trigger if offered that?
For who?
I find it interesting to note that Spurs haven't tried to get Haywood while they try to get Tyrus Thomas.
It's possible that Spurs are more focused on getting mobility in the frontcourt rather than size. Given the landscape in the NBA, it would make some logic. Dallas is now arguably the second best team in the West and has Dirk at PF. Odom' role with Lakers is raising. In the East, Atlanta and Orlando has mobile PF. And if Stoudamire is going to Cleveland, they will also have a mobile PF.
Last summer, the logic behind the Haislip signing was to have a player to match against these mobile PF. With the failure of this try, a trade for a player to match mobile PFs seems to be the enxt step to do for Spurs FO.
It's also noteworthy that Mavs and maybe Cavs have been able to make great trades with their expiring contracts. If Spurs are ready to take some additional salary for 2010-2011, they could also get a steal.
No, because I think if the Spurs FO waits until the off-season, they'll be able to unload Jefferson's expiring contract without giving up someone as talented as Blair.
The other option would be to trade RJ now for a less cap-friendly deal, like Maggette, and maybe only give up a future first-round pick.
Whoever. Just as a sweetener so some other team would be enticed to pick up RJ's contract for next year. I'm not even sure it's possible to ship Blair, but wondering if people would pull the trigger if it would be their decision...
I'm not sure they could move him in the offseason. I think they would need to wait at least until next February, and I think it would be too late IF he's still not fitting in...
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