Amare to Cavs for Big Z and Hickson...

[j.dizzle]

Not 100 percent sure this deal goes down. A lot can change between now and Thursday.

BTW, Hickson isn't all that but neither is Beasley. Dude is the king of empty numbers, he can get 20 and 10 and have absolutely no affect in the outcome of a game.

Beasley can create his own shot atleast, 95% of hicksons pts come off wide open dunks or alley oops since nobody guards him lmao

[Fpoonsie]

If this happens, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Lebron still bails on them. That would be comedy at it's finest.

I was thinkin the same thing. A trade like this doesn't necessarily secure Lebron's spot in CLE.

[JoeTait75]

I was thinkin the same thing. A trade like this doesn't necessarily secure Lebron's spot in CLE.

If he leaves this situation there's nothing that can be done to make him stay in the first place. So it really doesn't matter one way or another.

[Fpoonsie]

If he leaves this situation there's nothing that can be done to make him stay in the first place. So it really doesn't matter one way or another.

True. I've got nothing against the FANS in CLE, so I don't necessarily wish this on them, it'd just be so ing cruel, I couldn't HELP but laugh.

[Cleveland Steamer]

i don't think we need to make this thread to bring home the LOB this year but if we do, the rest of the league is screwed.

[JoeTait75]

True. I've got nothing against the FANS in CLE, so I don't necessarily wish this on them, it'd just be so ing cruel, I couldn't HELP but laugh.

If anyone can withstand that kind of kick in the nuts it's Cleveland fans. We've been through pretty much everything a fan base can go through as it is, nothing would overwhelm us at this point.

But I'd be surprised if LeBron left anyway.

[JamStone]

It will be the end of the world if this happens.

The "Chosen One" and "Black Jesus" on the same team? Heaven will explode.

[Fpoonsie]

It will be the end of the world if this happens.

The "Chosen One" and "Black Jesus" on the same team? Heaven will explode.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It will be the end of the world if this happens.

The "Chosen One" and "Black Jesus" on the same team? Heaven will explode.

[ffadicted]

It will be the end of the world if this happens.

The "Chosen One" and "Black Jesus" on the same team? Heaven will explode.

[DAF86]

any Spurs fan who thinks they can offer something for Amare.

Well if the Cavs can get him by offering Hickson and Ilgauzkas then the Spurs definitely have the assets to catch the Suns attention.

[phxspurfan]

It will be the end of the world if this happens.

The "Chosen One" and "Black Jesus" on the same team? Heaven will explode.

[Rimage]

Well if the Cavs can get him by offering Hickson and Ilgauzkas then the Spurs definitely have the assets to catch the Suns attention.

You'd have to do something equal like Blair or George Hill, Manu and Finley or Bonner.

Are Spurs fans cool with that?

[024]

ohhhhh this is not good for the rest of the league. this is an extremely lopsided trade. cavs give up freaking hickson for amare stoudemire? everyone knows ilgauskas will be bought out and resigned to the cavs. not that they would need him anyways since stoudemire's midrange jumper is just as good, if not better than ilgauskas's. i've said it all along. all james need is a legitimate all star next to him and he will be unstoppable. looks like he's very close in getting one.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Well if the Cavs can get him by offering Hickson and Ilgauzkas then the Spurs definitely have the assets to catch the Suns attention.

The Suns don't want Ian Mahinmi, he's a scrub and all 29 other teams know it.

[DPG21920]

The Suns don't want Ian Mahinmi, he's a scrub and all 29 other teams know it.

Blair? He has shown more than Hickson.

[024]

i doubt the suns will want to help the spurs out. if anything, they will be sending amare to the eastern conference.

[DPG21920]

I don't think the Suns would help the Spurs out, but it is silly to say that if Hickson is he asking price, that the Spurs have nothing of interest.

[Scola]

This could be Lebron's first chance to play with actual All-Star level player. If it happens, I pencil-in the Cavs for the NBA Finals, although I think the Lakers could still beat them in a series. It could go either way depending on who has home court advantage.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Blair? He has shown more than Hickson.

Hickson's ceiling is higher IMO. Blair, and this is just my opinion, is a role player who is only useful on a team trying to contend. I couldn't see any use for him on a team that's rebuilding. If SA is willing to involve George Hill then they probably can offer something better, but the vibes sources are giving off is that Phoenix wants more.

[midnightpulp]

If this goes down, it's over for the rest of the league. Amare is a perfect fit in Cleveland. And his defense, or lackthereof, won't be too much of a problem since Cleveland plays such excellent team defense. His deficiencies can be hidden in such a system unlike in Phoenix where they're magnified.

[21_Blessings]

And his defense, or lackthereof, won't be too much of a problem since Cleveland plays such excellent team defense. His deficiencies can be hidden in such a system unlike in Phoenix where they're magnified.

Amare is a ty team defender thus making Cleveland's team defense worse. Yes this does matter because Amare is a DUMB defensive player and won't magically figure it out all of sudden. And no you can't hide a power forward on defense. Not when he has to defend players like Pau Gasol in the finals.

[Ghazi]

Amare/Shaq frontline isn't as peachy as it sounds. Amare < Gasol, Shaq < Bynum... and then you have Odom/Artest

[024]

it wouldn't matter how bad stoudemire's defense is. no one in the league can guard him either, especially when all the attention will be focused on lebron james. stoudemire will be replacing ilguaskas, who isn't exactly a good defender. too slow to guard power forwards and not strong enough to guard centers.

[midnightpulp]

Amare is a ty team defender thus making Cleveland's team defense worse. Yes this does matter because Amare is a DUMB defensive player and won't magically figure it out all of sudden. And no you can't hide a power forward on defense. Not when he has to defend players like Pau Gasol in the finals.

Remember all the speculation about Gasol being a terrible defensive player and a soft interior presence?

Those Memphis Grizzlies were always one of the worst defenses in the league and Gasol was terrible on defense his last 3 years there.

Then he gets on a team that plays above average defense and his flaws in that area no longer seem to be a substantial problem.