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    I find it interesting to note that Spurs haven't tried to get Haywood while they try to get Tyrus Thomas.

    It's possible that Spurs are more focused on getting mobility in the frontcourt rather than size. Given the landscape in the NBA, it would make some logic. Dallas is now arguably the second best team in the West and has Dirk at PF. Odom' role with Lakers is raising. In the East, Atlanta and Orlando has mobile PF. And if Stoudamire is going to Cleveland, they will also have a mobile PF.

    Last summer, the logic behind the Haislip signing was to have a player to match against these mobile PF. With the failure of this try, a trade for a player to match mobile PFs seems to be the enxt step to do for Spurs FO.


    It's also noteworthy that Mavs and maybe Cavs have been able to make great trades with their expiring contracts. If Spurs are ready to take some additional salary for 2010-2011, they could also get a steal.
    Interesting. But who are those mobile bigs that the Spurs can target with their present assets?

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    As I mentioned in the other thread, a deal that might make sense is RMJ, Finley and Bonner for Josh Howard. Howard sucks so far this season but he could turn it around in another situation. Plus, since he has an expiring deal, it'd be a low risk move. I don't see a reason why the Wizards wouldn't do it, especially if the Spurs add a couple second rounders to the mix.

    This obviously wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the wish list but it would be better than nothing.

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    No ing way. We can't give up the future just to get rid of Jefferson and replace him with some other middling forward. Maggette? Please. The only way we trade Blair or Hill is if they can yield LBJ, Bosh, Wade or another superstar. If that's the case, then I would trade anyone excepting Timmy.

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    As I mentioned in the other thread, a deal that might make sense is RMJ, Finley and Bonner for Josh Howard. Howard sucks so far this season but he could turn it around in another situation. Plus, since he has an expiring deal, it'd be a low risk move. I don't see a reason why the Wizards wouldn't do it, especially if the Spurs add a couple second rounders to the mix.

    This obviously wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the wish list but it would be better than nothing.
    According to this (http://www.docsports.com/2008/nba-tr...rules-361.html), a player can only be traded in a one-for-one swap right away. If it's a multi-player deal then it has to wait 60 days.

    I don't know how credible the source is, but that would essentially put the nix on your trade proposal if true.

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    As I mentioned in the other thread, a deal that might make sense is RMJ, Finley and Bonner for Josh Howard. Howard sucks so far this season but he could turn it around in another situation. Plus, since he has an expiring deal, it'd be a low risk move. I don't see a reason why the Wizards wouldn't do it, especially if the Spurs add a couple second rounders to the mix.

    This obviously wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the wish list but it would be better than nothing.
    it will be good for us but no chance the Wizards do it, why for them to do nothing + second rounders for Howard, Howard could contribute big for them and they may will want to keep him for their future, you need to give talent for Howard.

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    Ship Tony (I think Hill is a better PG than him) to get a dominant big man and thats it, include in the package Finley if necessary.
    I can't see any trade not involving TP couse he's the only guy that can bring a valuable player in return. Plus he's playing the worst D i have ever seen on a Spurs uniform and looks injury prone more and more.
    If we can get something in return that fits our needs, im ok about trading Tony.

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    According to this (http://www.docsports.com/2008/nba-tr...rules-361.html), a player can only be traded in a one-for-one swap right away. If it's a multi-player deal then it has to wait 60 days.

    I don't know how credible the source is, but that would essentially put the nix on your trade proposal if true.
    The Wizards can't combine Howard with other players in a trade, but they could trade him by himself for multiple players on another team.

    In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following cir stances:

    * For two months after receiving the player in trade or claiming him off waivers, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately.


    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q87

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    it will be good for us but no chance the Wizards do it, why for them to do nothing + second rounders for Howard, Howard could contribute big for them and they may will want to keep him for their future, you need to give talent for Howard.
    Howard has no part in Washington's future and they would surely flip him for the right package. I don't believe our expiring contracts and a couple of late second round picks would be enough.

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    Interesting. But who are those mobile bigs that the Spurs can target with their present assets?
    Tyrus Thomas is ones and Spurs are said to be after. They are surely other names. You just had to look at the 29 other NBA teams rosters.

    As I mentioned in the other thread, a deal that might make sense is RMJ, Finley and Bonner for Josh Howard. Howard sucks so far this season but he could turn it around in another situation. Plus, since he has an expiring deal, it'd be a low risk move. I don't see a reason why the Wizards wouldn't do it, especially if the Spurs add a couple second rounders to the mix.

    This obviously wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the wish list but it would be better than nothing.
    Wizards main priority will be to go under the luxury tax. They are $3M above after the Mavs trade. I can see them trading Howard if it allows them to go under the tax but your trade don't allow them to do so.

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    As I mentioned in the other thread, a deal that might make sense is RMJ, Finley and Bonner for Josh Howard. Howard sucks so far this season but he could turn it around in another situation. Plus, since he has an expiring deal, it'd be a low risk move. I don't see a reason why the Wizards wouldn't do it, especially if the Spurs add a couple second rounders to the mix.

    This obviously wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the wish list but it would be better than nothing.
    I bet Pop is frothing with excitement at the prospect of having Howard play power forward for us.

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    Tyrus Thomas is ones and Spurs are said to be after. They are surely other names. You just had to look at the 29 other NBA teams rosters.



    Wizards main priority will be to go under the luxury tax. They are $3M above after the Mavs trade. I can see them trading Howard if it allows them to go under the tax but your trade don't allow them to do so.
    Finley+Bonner+RMJ make 1.3 million less then Howard, throw in some 2nd rounders and cash and that may be enough.

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    i don't care who just please get someone

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    I bet Pop is frothing with excitement at the prospect of having Howard play power forward for us.
    howard will never be what he once was just like manu
    and spurs do not need a 1 quarter guy they need a 3 and 4 quarter guy

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    i don't care who just please get someone
    sooooooooooooo
    spurs should trade their 12 man for someones else 12 man?

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    sooooooooooooo
    spurs should trade their 12 man for someones else 12 man?
    only if its the 1992 dream team

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    Sources: Teams sweeten Amare offers

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    While Cleveland has zeroed in on Amare Stoudemire, it benefits the Suns to let the process play out until the last hours before Thursday's deadline.

    Sources with knowledge of the negotiations said Saturday night that the Cavs and Suns were in serious talks about a deal that would send Zydrunas Ilgauskas and J.J. Hickson to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire, one of the league's most dominant big man.

    Stoudemire is averaging 21.2 points and 8.6 rebounds on the season.

    But reports that the five-time All-Star Stoudemire could be headed to Cleveland have led other clubs to e up their offers to Phoenix, according to sources.

    The ball is now in Phoenix's court.

    The Suns are mulling over whether the financial relief provided by Ilgauskas' $12 million contract -- they'll likely waive Ilgauskas after the trade -- and the young and talented Hickson are enough for them to part with an impact player like Stoudemire.

    And the Cavaliers have to be fairly certain that Stoudemire would be willing to re-sign with them before giving up the fast-improving Hickson.

    However, according to sources, Philadelphia's Andre Iguodala, appears to be the Suns' top choice.

    So far, the Sixers have been leery of giving up their best player for Stoudemire.

    While Stoudemire has good relationships with LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal, some close to Stoudemire believe Miami -- where he lives during the summer -- is his first choice.

    Miami has pursued Stoudemire hard but has no one on its roster (besides Dwyane Wade) that interests Phoenix, according to sources. That includes Michael Beasley. So it would take a three-team deal for Stoudemire to be traded to the Heat.

    Of course, Cleveland can also pursue three-team deals that would sweeten the offer for Phoenix.

    Chris Broussard is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...r_espn_4913834

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    Sources: Teams sweeten Amare offers

    By Chris Broussard
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    While Cleveland has zeroed in on Amare Stoudemire, it benefits the Suns to let the process play out until the last hours before Thursday's deadline.

    Sources with knowledge of the negotiations said Saturday night that the Cavs and Suns were in serious talks about a deal that would send Zydrunas Ilgauskas and J.J. Hickson to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire, one of the league's most dominant big man.

    Stoudemire is averaging 21.2 points and 8.6 rebounds on the season.

    But reports that the five-time All-Star Stoudemire could be headed to Cleveland have led other clubs to e up their offers to Phoenix, according to sources.

    The ball is now in Phoenix's court.

    The Suns are mulling over whether the financial relief provided by Ilgauskas' $12 million contract -- they'll likely waive Ilgauskas after the trade -- and the young and talented Hickson are enough for them to part with an impact player like Stoudemire.

    And the Cavaliers have to be fairly certain that Stoudemire would be willing to re-sign with them before giving up the fast-improving Hickson.

    However, according to sources, Philadelphia's Andre Iguodala, appears to be the Suns' top choice.

    So far, the Sixers have been leery of giving up their best player for Stoudemire.

    While Stoudemire has good relationships with LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal, some close to Stoudemire believe Miami -- where he lives during the summer -- is his first choice.

    Miami has pursued Stoudemire hard but has no one on its roster (besides Dwyane Wade) that interests Phoenix, according to sources. That includes Michael Beasley. So it would take a three-team deal for Stoudemire to be traded to the Heat.

    Of course, Cleveland can also pursue three-team deals that would sweeten the offer for Phoenix.

    Chris Broussard is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...r_espn_4913834

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    Duncan says he doesn't expect anything to happen in his post All-Star game interview.

    http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/100214_duncan.html

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    Duncan says he doesn't expect anything to happen in his post All-Star game interview.

    http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/100214_duncan.html
    He probably knows.

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    only if its the 1992 dream team
    Christian Laettner?

    He's big.

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    Why have we given up on antawn jamison..there's still a chance he was my first choice anyway i say expirings 1st round pick and spiltter for this guy hes matt bonner 2.0 but he's BLACK!

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    Christian Laettner?

    He's big.
    good choice man haha

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    Duncan says he doesn't expect anything to happen in his post All-Star game interview.

    http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/100214_duncan.html
    That's what he's suppose to say.

    Tim has never thrown his team under the bus in the middle of the season unlike some " players of the decade."
    Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 02-15-2010 at 05:03 AM.

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    Why have we given up on antawn jamison..there's still a chance he was my first choice anyway i say expirings 1st round pick and spiltter for this guy hes matt bonner 2.0 but he's BLACK!
    I completely agree! The Wizards it seems are willing to deal him now that they got rid of butler, haywood and stevenson.. He could be had for some more expirings I assume.. And it seems the Cavs have more interest in Amare and are trying to close a deal with the Suns.. The Spurs should definitely make an inquiry on Jamison's availability!

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    I don't wanna give up on Splitter. We've waited this long for him, we might as well let it pan out. He may surprise a lot of people here, let's give him a chance. People say he has no post game, I don't care about a post game. I want a big body who'll grab rebounds and intimidate shooters around the rim. If he has a hook or a 10 ft jumper, then I'm down. As seen here, a few months ago, he moves aggressively and powerfully. Who knows if he'll fit? I'd rather give him a shot than trade his rights and regret the decision.

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