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That's essentially what Wojnarowski reported earlier. His report concluded with this comment:
“What has, or will kill this,” one GM said, “is that Portland just won’t take Vujacic on.”
There's nothing out there to indicate that the Spurs' interest in Thomas has decreased or increased, although recent reports indicate that his price may have increased beyond what they would consider a reasonable price.
Minny owns the first rounders of the Bobcats and the Jazz in addition to their own lottery pick. If they offer expiring contracts plus the Charlotte pick, they win.
That's essentially what Wojnarowski reported earlier. His report concluded with this comment:
“What has, or will kill this,” one GM said, “is that Portland just won’t take Vujacic on.”
Why aren't the Spurs being mentioned in any of this? Have they all but given up?
thank God for Sasha's awful contract.
Heinrich on the the Lakers . . . please no.
Neither would I.
When the media says nothing about the Spurs...its probably cause theyre gonna really make a move
The two obvious possibilities:
1. No deal is close to completion
2. Spurs FO personnel don't spend as much time talking to reporters as their counterparts on other teams.
We're limited in that we can't trade the pick in this years draft until after we've picked, as we traded away our 09 pick. At 20, We're either looking at someone like Ebanks, A under the radar guy (eg Parakhouski from Radford), or hoping someone falls.
I don't see any reason to not do a Thomas and/or Salmons trade though, or at least to attempt it. IT'd probably take a 2011 pick to do it, but for a significant upgrrade in talent that doesn't affect 2011 flexibility, to get a 3rd Wing and the Athletic combo forward we've been looking for for a long time, that 2011 pick seems a decent price. (Though protection on it would be a good idea)
The spurs can trade their 2010 pick. The rules prohibit trading two consecutive future picks. Once the 2009 draft was over, the Spurs were allowed to trade their 2010 pick.
Sorry, my bad. Though A 2011 pick makes more sense for us to trade, and for the Bulls to get in a cap sense of when both teams want cap room and players, though it doesn't really matter.
Hopefully because the Spurs are working behind the scenes like always...never letting their plans get out before they execute them...
Tyrus Thomas a popular trade target, regardless of fit
By Rob Mahoney
The allure of Tyrus Thomas is obvious: when Thomas is active and engaged, he can seriously impact games with his defense and lead a one-man assault on the rim on offense. He has the unique package of length, quickness, size, and athleticism necessary to be a versatile all-purpose defender. But something gets lost between the idea of Tyrus Thomas in theory and the actual Tyrus Thomas in practice. He hasn't quite figured out how to contribute in meaningful ways on a nightly basis, but through no fault of his physical limitations. The real game for Thomas rests solely between his ears, and once he figures that out (supposing he eventually does)? Stock up on canned goods, buy up all the bottled water you can, and head down into the shelter.
But Tyrus' incredible doesn't necessarily make him a great fit in any frontcourt. Case in point? The Minnesota Timberwolves, who, despite the fact that Thomas would be paired with either Kevin Love or Al Jefferson, still are making a run at acquiring the Bulls forward. From Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski:
Several league executives suggested the Minnesota Timberwolves could be a sleeper for him. Minnesota general manager David Kahn has been researching Thomas and has plenty of assets - three 2010 first-round picks, multiple second-rounders and a host of expiring contracts - to make it happen. Once the Timberwolves trade Al Jefferson this summer, they can re-sign Thomas and plug him into the frontline with Kevin Love. Jefferson is expected to be traded for a talented, young small forward. Trading for Thomas would be a way to get a long, athletic power forward with upside, and the Timberwolves could easily re-sign him this summer.
Trading for Thomas would hardly seem like a horrible move for the Wolves at present, but I'm not sure that having Tyrus and Kevin Love as the starting bigs is anything resembling an effective strategy. Love is an absolutely terrific player, but has neither the size nor mobility to defend talented offensive bigs. Thomas may be able to provide excellent help-side defense if he pulls it together, but he's far too thin to be the team's go-to post defender. So the Wolves would essentially be left with two talented big men who can provide very different things...only they wouldn't seem to really be capable of guarding anyone. Love will do his best down low against traditional bigs, and ultimately fall short; Thomas will float in and out of games and gamble defensively. Young team like Minnesota should focus on acquiring young talent/assets, and that part of the rumor is sound. But in terms of clearing out Al Jefferson in favor of a Thomas-Love front line? Color me pessimistic.
Maybe Tyrus Thomas can still be had....remember all those rumors about Tyrus to New York for Harrington? Maybe that wont happen now thanks to this:
Harrington Will Be Involved In Deal For McGrady
A pair of sources told the New York Post on Sunday night that the Knicks remain in the race to acquire Rockets guard Tracy McGrady.
Any deal sending McGrady to New York would likely center around Al Harrington.
Houston would like to obtain either rookie Toney Douglas or Jordan Hill from New York in the deal as well.
"There's still a chance," one source said, regarding a McGrady-to-New York scenario without a third team involved.
Via New York Post
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...l_for_mcgrady/
@ jordan hill
nice pick there gngstah man....
Blazers offering Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw and likely cash to Clippers for Marcus Camby, league source tells Y! Sports.
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
from Woj twitter page, maybe if this goes through that will keep them out of the TT trade
He also says they are trying to attach Telfair with Camby on any deal....
Clips trying to attach Telfair to deals with Camby, but doubt Port takes him back. Perhaps $2-3 million needed to inspire Clips on package.
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA
Blake and Outlaw are solid players, but when it comes to to this, the Clippers are trading the best player in the deal and getting what type of long term value back? Camby's already an expiring contract as is.
Would the Clippers, already said to be shopping Thornton, be interested in re-signing Outlaw? He's a better outside shooter (which they need), but a comparable player overall.
Why is it that if you're one of the it or glamorous teams in the league that you can offer and at minimum be taken seriously, if not have the trade go through entirely and benefit you? But if you're the Spurs, for example and were to offer similar or comparable packages, it would be looked at as not being a credible offer. At least it seems that way.
You just know that if the Spurs called the Clippers and offered any combination of Mason, Bonner, Finley, Ratliff, Mahinmi, as well as a 1st round pick, they probably wouldn't be able to get a deal done. But the Blazers are offering even less, so it's seen as value.
There's no way the Blazers (if they are) should even be mulling that Lakers offer of Vujacic in a three-way deal, but supposedly they are; why? Because it's the Lakers they automatically feel obligated to help them? The Blazers aren't beating the Lakers this year, but next year they might have a chance. Why make any type of trade that strengthens the Lakers this year and next? It's beyond comprehension, yet I see this all the time in sports.
Happens all the time in baseball. Other teams offer crap, it's seen as crap. Yankees or Red Sox offer crap and it's gold because it's from them. It's bull .
Collusion.
If Camby gets traded to any team not named the Spurs, I fully expect a meltdown of major proportions in here...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,5117374.story
Trade talk: League sources said the Bulls are still involved in talks with the Nuggets Rockets and Spurs regarding Tyrus Thomas. It's unknown if the Knicks' pursuit of Tracy McGrady has affected their interest in Thomas
If it's down to the Nuggets, Rockets and Spurs are we're talking about a straight up deal (no third team involved) then it's only a matter of time before Thomas is a Spur. I don't see how those two teams can trump their offer, not with what they're reported to be making available at least.
My only problem with the Salmons/Thomas trade is that it'll make it harder for the Spurs to keep Manu. Salmons has guaranteed money next year that would otherwise go to Manu. If the Spurs keep Thomas, that is even more money on the budget. How do you keep Manu on top of all that?
It'd be hard to swallow but if you do the Salmons/Thomas deal, you might have to then trade Manu in a rent-a-bigman deal just because he'd be difficult to keep going forward and this is the last time to get value for him.
Maybe they won't have to take on Salmons . . . (unfortunate, if the case.)
The Spurs' expirings actually have the ability to help them on the court this year -- I'm not sure you can say the same for the other parties.
I don't know about that. I agree that it would make keeping Manu more than difficult, but I don't know how much offense the Spurs would have without Manu. Salmons is having a bad season %-wise, and even in the playoffs last year shot poorly on his baskets, and Tyrus isn't a big scorer. RJ can't be trusted.
If they're all-in, then keeping Manu is the way to go for contending for a le this year.
Manu would have to take a pay cut. The question is will he. I won't blame the spurs if they let Manu walk if he wants what he is getting now.
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