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    I just don't get that the Spurs FO is cool about it. Who do they have ahead of him and why?

    Someone they would get in return?

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    Or I'm just realistic?
    Look man I'd say most people knew we didn't have a chance with out Manu, but why say that to the team?

    I said we had about a 5% chance of winning it all last season and I said the Mavs had about a 1% chance before the playoffs started.

    Why not just miss the playoffs if you really think that. Pop should have told them to tank then if he felt we had no chance of doing anything, even getting past the first round.

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    He probably is. However, Bonner is currently the second best defensive bigman on the team.

    Although that probably says the more about the team than anything else . . .
    Ain't that the frickin' truth.

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    Get the out.

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    hill is ahead of mason
    his d is a little better then mason
    and hills shot is good
    I also think hills d is overrated but improving

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    Someone they would get in return?
    maybe not
    they might get a pick to stash over seas and never play for the spurs

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    Bonner/Mason/Mahinmi for Batum

    Is it feasible or not?

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    i know i hate it when my confidence is ruided.
    have you ever played pro ball
    confidence is ing key

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    so do the Spurs just go balls to wall and trade Ginobili with Mason/Bonner/Finley?

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    Ain't that the frickin' truth.
    It's not.

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    Yeah, he may be getting a raw deal being behind Bogans and FInley which IMO is just re ed playing behind them but wanting or demanding a trade is a move.

    Adios.

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    brewer d is way better and would not demand out

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    so do the Spurs just go balls to wall and trade Ginobili with Mason/Bonner/Finley?

    Knowing the crush that Pop has on Ginobili, I'd put the odds of trading him at about 5%

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    You see this is classic, had he said "We can beat anyone, even without manu" You would've been one of the first ones on here saying "WTF is he smoking and why is he bsing the team?"


    ing hypocrites....
    Pop didn't say that though. Making up fake quotes to call me a hypocrite is re ed.

    Pop should have said something along the lines of just play hard and play defense and we'll see what we can do. He could have even said nothing at all.

    There is no need to go to extremes and say we can win it all with Manu or we can't win with out Manu.

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    brewer d is way better and would not demand out

    Brewer sucks.

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    I don't think Mason's failure against the Mavs was a choke -- as in he couldn't handle the pressure mentally.

    Roger just happened to be a very limited player playing on a beat up team, which in turn allowed their opponent to completely neutralize his one real strength by forcing him into a role he was incapable of playing -- namely taking him off the three-point line and making him create off the dribble offensively (rendering him baffled and ineffective).

    If you've got a dominant, healthy Tim and Manu that series, I'm sure Mason would have acquitted himself much better . . .

    I have no problem with the Spurs letting him go or Roger and his agent even advocating for a trade -- it's in both parties best interest, imo. The Spurs need a more well-rounded player than Mason and Roger deserves the opportunity to play for his next contract -- it clearly won't be with the Spurs.

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    Someone they would get in return?
    What does that have to do with why he is not playing now?

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    I don't think Mason's failure against the Mavs was a choke -- as in he couldn't handle the pressure mentally.

    Roger just happened to be a very limited player playing on a beat up team, which in turn allowed their opponent to completely neutralize his one real strength by forcing him into a role he was incapable of playing -- namely taking him off the three-point line and making him create off the dribble offensively (rendering him baffled and ineffective).

    If you've got a dominant, healthy Tim and Manu that series, I'm sure Mason would have acquitted himself much better . . .

    I have no problem with the Spurs letting him go or Roger and his agent even advocating for a trade -- it's in both parties best interest, imo. The Spurs need a more well-rounded player than Mason and Roger deserves the opportunity to play for his next contract -- it clearly won't be with the Spurs.

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    You see this is classic, had he said "We can beat anyone, even without manu" You would've been one of the first ones on here saying "WTF is he smoking and why is he bsing the team?"


    ing hypocrites....
    No, it would be a coach trying to rally his troops to put out their best effort.
    That's pretty much what he did in 2007.

    The "woe is me, we have no hope" spiel is straight from the Don Nelson Excuse Making Loser Bull School of coaching. Unfortunately and inexplicably, Pop seems to have picked this time in his career to start emulating his buddy in all kinds of bad ways.

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    Pop didn't say that though. Making up fake quotes to call me a hypocrite is re ed.

    Pop should have said something along the lines of just play hard and play defense and we'll see what we can do. He could have even said nothing at all.

    There is no need to go to extremes and say we can win it all with Manu or we can't win with out Manu.

    Inferring intent in joking quotes is re ed as well.

    Yet you do it.

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    GTFO.

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    I just don't get that the Spurs FO is cool about it. Who do they have ahead of him and why?
    The basic idea was posted here:

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...5&postcount=79

    Look at 144 total minutes per game at the 1, 2, and 3. As the season progresses, RJ, Tony, and Hill will be playing 35+ mpg and Manu will play close to 30. That only leaves 10-15 mpg for the 5th perimeter player. Mason did the math.

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    RMJ was one of the best players to come onto the team and right away play well with Duncan. When he was starting and Duncan would kick the ball out to him, it worked well almost from the get go. Then, Pop played mind games and it was all gone.

    Spurs players have asked to be traded before but I do not recall it getting out before the trade happened.

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    No, it would be a coach trying to rally his troops to put out their best effort.
    That's pretty much what he did in 2007.

    The "woe is me, we have no hope" spiel is straight from the Don Nelson Excuse Making Loser Bull School of coaching. Unfortunately and inexplicably, Pop seems to have picked this time in his career to start emulating his buddy in all kinds of bad ways.

    Problem is, there was a roster to rally behind in 07.

    Can you honestly say that about THIS roster as it stands now?

    If they were to get a Tyrus Thomas and a John Salmons I'd then go into full 07 mode and be ready to rally the troops, but even I one of the biggest Spurs homers there is can't get confident in this group.

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    have you ever played pro ball
    confidence is ing key
    You have?

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