Mason Wants Out?

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mason for jr smith

[Agloco]

the writing was on the wall

You changed the entire context of Pop's conversation by omitting the part in red......

Originally Posted by 02/13/2010

Mason's minutes have swung wildly this season, and he admits it's been difficult to find a groove. Popovich said he has been pleased with Mason's professionalism in amid a trying season.

“That's his job,” Popovich said. “Guys get paid a lot of money to go play. It doesn't matter when you play, or how many minutes. I expect them to give everything they have when they're called upon.”

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...rade_talk.html

[tmtcsc]

Ok, so he was out at da strip clubs in SA. How bad could it be ? What did you hear about him EricB? I always thought he kept his nose clean... --> Just an expression.

PM me if you don't want to write it out on the board.

[SpurNation]

OUt of the players that play?

I don't know about basketball, but I think McDyess plays better D than Bonner, but, again, I thought Rasho Nesterovich was way too bagged on in his time in SA too..

Again...maybe true. But when do we see a defensive lineup late in quarters with leads that have a chance to defend that lead?

That's not saying RMJ isn't doing what Pop wants. But there's bigger issues than RMJ with this team.

RMJ is out of his realm of comfort for what he does best. Other's simply don't get a chance to play and do what they do best.

Again...I can't blame RMJ if all this is true. Whipping Boy is not a thing I would take very long either if there happened to be other issues greater than my contributions or lack there of.

But who's to say RMJ has been the 'whipping boy' of Pop. It just appears that way.

How long would any of us put up with that if it were the case?

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maybe pop wants out he said no le fire himself

[Agloco]

It's funny how people can make a trade with Fin,Mason,Bonner..... .If we don't want them how we are going to find a team to get good players for them.

Look up "expiring contracts".

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yeah, I find it difficult to believe Roger Mason Jr, who's never had a word of controversy in his life, is suddenly this lockerroom malcontent bringing the team down.

Although given the Spurs' M.O., it wouldn't be surprising to suddenly have a bunch of stories floated in the media.

Yep. Whenever a player gets traded away that had a pulse, you always see stories about what a cancer they were after the fact. Typical Spurs media management...

[Mel_13]

Yep. Whenever a player gets traded away that had a pulse, you always see stories about what a cancer they were after the fact. Typical Spurs media management...

Outside of Beno, what traded Spur has received negative post-trade press in the last 6-7 years?

[Obstructed_View]

He was wrong or something?

No, they pretty much had carte blanche from him to quit the moment Manu's injury was determined to be season-ending, didn't they?

Pop's holding a grudge against Mason for an uninspired performance in a series he himself had already given up on is just another block in his long running game of bad-decision Jenga.

[angelbelow]

ive heard a bit about Mahinmi's nightlife from certain sources which makes me wonder if that has anything to do with why pop refuses to play him.

Interesting.

[EricB]

Yep. Whenever a player gets traded away that had a pulse, you always see stories about what a cancer they were after the fact. Typical Spurs media management...

Yeah I was very fond of the stories about Kurt Thomas and Fabricio.

[Vic Petro]

Monday morning GMing is always easy, but again, did anyone EVEN YOU think Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess would've played this bad?

Those guys being dissapointing along with Parker being limited because of injuries.

That and Pop seemingly for some reason ignoring what worked in the past.

No of course, just like almost everyone else here I thought the RJ/McDyess moves were great. But it's not my job to be right. Even if every fan thought it was the best deal ever, the fact is the various roster permutations that Pop/RC have tried have failed. You have to hold them accountable for that, given it's their job to contruct a successful roster.

[objective]

Yep. Whenever a player gets traded away that had a pulse, you always see stories about what a cancer they were after the fact. Typical Spurs media management...

100% true.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Outside of Beno, what traded Spur has received negative post-trade press in the last 6-7 years?

Antonio Daniels.

Derek Anderson left, but got the post-Spur trashing in the press for being a prima donna.

Buckets (Stephen Jackson), same.

I know I'm missing some too.

[EricB]

Again...maybe true. But when do we see a defensive lineup late in quarters with leads that have a chance to defend that lead?

That's not saying RMJ isn't doing what Pop wants. But there's bigger issues than RMJ with this team.

RMJ is out of his realm of comfort for what he does best. Other's simply don't get a chance to play and do what they do best.

Again...I can't blame RMJ if all this is true. Whipping Boy is not a thing I would take very long either if there happened to be other issues greater than my contributions or lack there of.

But who's to say RMJ has been the 'whipping boy' of Pop. It just appears that way.

How long would any of us put up with that if it were the case?

I disagree he's been a whipping boy.

Has he gotten the raw end of PT?

At times yeah but there have been other times where he hasn't helped himself at all.

IMO both parties can share the blame equally which IMO, means a trade is best for both sides.

[objective]

Antonio Daniels.

Derek Anderson left, but got the post-Spur trashing in the press for being a prima donna.

Buckets (Stephen Jackson), same.

I know I'm missing some too.

I seem to remember some anti-Scola scuttlebutt in the media before and after the trade, at least that's my hazy memory.

The business of 'he wants to start/he can't play next to Tim with his game/he's demanding the full MLE' can't all have started on message boards.

[EricB]

No of course, just like almost everyone else here I thought the RJ/McDyess moves were great. But it's not my job to be right. Even if every fan thought it was the best deal ever, the fact is the various roster permutations that Pop/RC have tried have failed. You have to hold them accountable for that, given it's their job to contruct a successful roster.

Yeah I agree.

Wanting to run them all out of town? I would disagree with that.

[EricB]

Antonio Daniels.

Derek Anderson left, but got the post-Spur trashing in the press for being a prima donna.

Buckets (Stephen Jackson), same.

I know I'm missing some too.

Wasn't that true though?

[ElNono]

Antonio Daniels.

Derek Anderson left, but got the post-Spur trashing in the press for being a prima donna.

Buckets (Stephen Jackson), same.

I know I'm missing some too.

Anthony Carter?
Ime Udoka?

Scola?

[EricB]

I seem to remember some anti-Scola scuttlebutt in the media before and after the trade, at least that's my hazy memory.

The business of 'he wants to start/he can't play next to Tim with his game/he's demanding the full MLE' can't all have started on message boards.

Yeah it's called an agent.

[EricB]

Anthony Carter?
Ime Udoka?

Scola?

Well Scola did get painted with a bit of a bad picture I'll say that, but, most of that could be attributed to the agent.

RC critiquing his rebounding in an email to him (if thats true, I've never gotten confirmation on that) was bad form as well.

[ducks]

hill has nude pictures and he is still here

[ducks]

Well Scola did get painted with a bit of a bad picture I'll say that, but, most of that could be attributed to the agent.

RC critiquing his rebounding in an email to him (if thats true, I've never gotten confirmation on that) was bad form as well.

scola is the one that ED UP
he could have had a ring by now

[objective]

Yeah it's called an agent.

I remember his agent saying that he needed a deal of 3 yrs 9-10 million. Not the full MLE.

[Vic Petro]

Yeah I agree.

Wanting to run them all out of town? I would disagree with that.

Totally agreed...my overall point was a defense of Pop. People wanting to run Pop/RC out of town are like the people living in a penthouse and complaining about no backyard. Some people don't know how good we have it. If these two are replaced you are almost assured of the new tandem being nowhere near as successful.

That said, for the past 3 years or so especially, they have made some serious errors in judgment.