Official Trade Deadline Speculation Thread

[TD 21]

Thomas for Aldridge
Foye for Roy
Jamison for VC

What the were they thinking?

They weren't. I knew the instant they did that trade that it was a mistake. Thomas had Swift written all over him. As it turns out, I think he'll be better than that and not quite a bust, but not the star the Bulls thought they were getting at the time, either. Aldridge, on the other hand, will never be a dominant big and at his best will likely be a fringe All-Star, but he'll be better than solid for over a decade. The Bulls should have taken the double instead of trying to stretch it into a triple.

[objective]

Like Ex said, I'd hold out for Randolph. Although I might settle for Brandan Wright.

Randolph might be a pipe dream.

there was a bit on a Houston Chronicle blog about the Rockets moves, and it mentioned Randolph as one of Morey's targets who they tried to get but that he was 'never available'.

link

[exstatic]

Like Ex said, I'd hold out for Randolph. Although I might settle for Brandan Wright.

I haven't heard any attempts to move Wright. I have heard they want to move Randolph. You must eat a contract, specifically Maggette to get him, though. The one positive is that to get out from under Maggette, they might actually take RJ. They're not locked into 2010 ending contracts, just long term savings.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

From RealGM:

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wir...cdyess_jordan/



Nuggets Make Attempts For Big Ben, McDyess, Jordan


Feb 15, 2010 9:33 PM EST

The Nuggets apparently have recently tried to make trades for DeAndre Jordan, Antonio McDyess and Ben Wallace, but were unsuccessful with each pursuit.

RealGM Note: Denver is looking for a big that can play 15-25 minutes per night and provide insurance in case they incur an injury to Nene, Kenyon Martin or Chris Andersen.




Who do you guys think the Nuggets offered for McDyess?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

From RealGM:

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wir...cdyess_jordan/



Nuggets Make Attempts For Big Ben, McDyess, Jordan


Feb 15, 2010 9:33 PM EST

The Nuggets apparently have recently tried to make trades for DeAndre Jordan, Antonio McDyess and Ben Wallace, but were unsuccessful with each pursuit.

RealGM Note: Denver is looking for a big that can play 15-25 minutes per night and provide insurance in case they incur an injury to Nene, Kenyon Martin or Chris Andersen.




Who do you guys think the Nuggets offered for McDyess?

[exstatic]

Randolph might be a pipe dream.

there was a bit on a Houston Chronicle blog about the Rockets moves, and it mentioned Randolph as one of Morey's targets who they tried to get but that he was 'never available'.

link

He wouldn't be available by himself. He's a chip to get someone to eat Maggette's contract. It's almost like the Tyrus Thomas situation: you don't get just him.

[ElNono]

If Portland wants a cheap big, Bonner for Outlaw works. Pritchard loves the "advanced stats" and could fall in love with Bonner's PER and plus/minus. Both teams would get players who would fit better and the contracts are almost the same.

Bonner's PER is basically 15. That's actually the PER for an average player on this league.

[EricB]

If Portland wants a cheap big, Bonner for Outlaw works. Pritchard loves the "advanced stats" and could fall in love with Bonner's PER and plus/minus. Both teams would get players who would fit better and the contracts are almost the same.

If Pritchard traded Travis Outlaw for Matt Bonner I'd question his sanity.

[EricB]

He wouldn't be available by himself. He's a chip to get someone to eat Maggette's contract. It's almost like the Tyrus Thomas situation: you don't get just him.

I abhor Maggette but if it got Randolph and for RJ?

I guess that makes it SLIGHTLY palatable...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

No that's not it. Bird is having a poor year. At least this is why I've been told. And the nuggets actually regret waiving McDyess after the Billups trade.

I believe that the Nuggets didn't want to waive him but the issue was he didn't want to play in Denver, not after the fact that he is still hung up over the goings on behind his signing in Denver the last time.

Sure it saved them money but i think the biggest part was him not wanting to play in Denver. It's ironic that he went to the Spurs and for once they didn't go as far as the Nuggets last season

[timvp]

Bonner's PER is basically 15. That's actually the PER for an average player on this league.

Before the injury, it was 17+. His plus/minus per minute is still highest on the team ... for the second year in a row.

[EricB]

Before the injury, it was 17+. His plus/minus per minute is still highest on the team ... for the second year in a row.

Which goes to show that stat is worthless....

[benefactor]

GM's and agents expect flurry of activity Tuesday. Everyone was holding deck close today, including PHX and Cavs. Best offers are on way.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's kind of funny that some of the people that are against getting Thomas want Outlaw..they're both 2 of the bigger idiots in the NBA..

[benefactor]

C'mon dammit...do the Salmons/Thomas deal.

[Mel_13]

C'mon dammit...do the Salmons/Thomas deal.

Patience, patience.

[ElNono]

Before the injury, it was 17+. His plus/minus per minute is still highest on the team ... for the second year in a row.

He's a career 14.5... barely below average... His best PER season was his first with the Spurs, at 16.4...

His superlative plus/minus has been well do ented in these forums though...

[benefactor]

Patience, patience.

Yeah...I know. Wojo is right. Everyone is checking instead of throwing chips in. Hopefully the betting starts to heat up tomorrow.

[objective]

More likely:

Bonner traded or Bonner re-signed?

[benefactor]

Wouldn't be surprised if the Tyrus/Salmons trade went down. Spurs pushed hard for Salmons last year at the deadline. I also wouldn't be surprised if Salmons played the 4 more than Tyrus.

Yup...Salmons at the 4 and Thomas at the 5.

[TD 21]

Heat "coming hard" after Stoudemire...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4917483


Cavs pursuing Maggette as another fallback option if they fail to land Stoudemire...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4917507


Let's hope the Spurs make the Thomas deal Tuesday, but last week the word was the Bulls were going to take it to the deadline. Hate to say it because I'm getting impatient, but it makes sense.

[Shastafarian]

Heat "coming hard" after Stoudemire...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4917483

Let's hope the Spurs make the Thomas deal Tuesday, but last week the word was the Bulls were going to take it to the deadline. Hate to say it because I'm getting impatient, but it makes sense.

Marc Stein is saying they're trying to get a third team involved. *crosses fingers*

[benefactor]

The Heat emerged from the All-Star break even more determined than they were before to find a third team to help them broker an Amare deal before Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline.

How about the Spurs get in on the action?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjsk4f2

Then we can do this and we are set.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yg98trv

[Blackjack]

Thomas for Aldridge
Foye for Roy
Jamison for VC

What the were they thinking?

I killed them for the Thomas move at the time, but not so much Foye -- I plead a bit of ignorance on the Roy front (didn't see him enough) and was impressed with Foye. (I still believe he's going to be pretty good; something about typing Foye and Roy in succession makes me feel like I'm writing in riddles ... Dr. Seuss, or some .) Their stockpiling of point guards this year was questionable, as well.

Jamison for VC?

Maybe I'm misremembering (great word) but that was GS and Orlando's doing.

[HarlemHeat37]

I killed them for the Thomas move at the time, but not so much Foye -- I plead a bit of ignorance on the Roy front (didn't see him enough) and was impressed with Foye. (I still believe he's going to be pretty good; something about typing Foye and Roy in succession makes me feel like I'm writing in riddles ... Dr. Seuss, or some .) Their stockpiling of point guards this year was questionable, as well.

Jamison for VC?

Maybe I'm misremembering (great word) but that was GS and Orlando's doing.

Toronto..