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    Your either with us or against us.

    If he wants out trade him. If a player that wants to "win a championship" as Mason said he does and then he complains about playing time he obviously doesn't know what it takes so let him have his contract year playing for the Nets or whoever while the Spurs do whatever they can to win a championship.

    A trade needs to happen. I wouldn't even be mad if nothing of value comes in return, although I believe the FO is smarter than that. If a trade happens everyone wins.

    Mason gets his $$$ by showing off his skills for the remainder of the season and the Spurs get a TEAM that wants to win a championship regardless of outcome.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    who's right?!



    I mean I don't doubt OV's numbers they could've been right, but I could've sworm he laid a pretty good goose egg in that series.

    Again, that was 9 years ago and I most likely am wrong.
    I just dumped the info into the calculator at basketball-reference and that's what it gave me back. Maybe it skipped playoffs or something. Looking it up a second time.

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    It's starting to look like you suck.

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    hill has nude pictures and he is still here

    Those pictures came out last year in February and he was damn near shipped to the Clippers...

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    Those pictures came out last year in February and he was damn near shipped to the Clippers...
    + benched

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    I just dumped the info into the calculator at basketball-reference and that's what it gave me back. Maybe it skipped playoffs or something. Looking it up a second time.
    Yeah they had a first round series against Minnesota which they won 3-1. DA scored 16, 16, 12 and 4 points in those games. The 4 point game was the closeout game which they won by 13. He only had 4 shot attempts and was basically invisible offensively.

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    aj is avaible
    right now he would be better then pop and I am not an aj fan
    i think either PJ or mike budenholzer will do fine

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    So all 2003 or earlier.

    Just curious. Did anything come out about any of those players that was not true?
    Scola? (2007)

    I don't think any of those stories were either confirmed or denied, no one has the balls in SA to challenge the Spurs on it. Nationally, the press just didn't care.

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    2000–01 San Antonio 7 7 27.7 .262 .273 .762 2.7 2.4 .4 .0 7.7


    Thats Derek Anderson's playoff numbers from 2001....

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    I did.

    I own up to it.

    I still don't think Anderson makes them better than the steamroller that was LA in 2001 however.

    To each his own however.
    Where did I ever say he would have made the difference versus LA?

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    I mean I don't doubt OV's numbers they could've been right, but I could've sworm he laid a pretty good goose egg in that series.

    Again, that was 9 years ago and I most likely am wrong.
    I believe he quoted DA's regular season numbers against the T'Wolves. In the playoffs, DA was a massive disappointment in that first round series. By the final game, DA was worthless and Antonio Daniels was the team's shooting guard.

    DA was pretty damn good in that 2001 regular season. He helped the Spurs put up some of their best regular season stats in history. Come playoff time though, he was a real disappointment and the main reason why DA wasn't re-signed, IMO.

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    did they get Charles Smith back for DA as well as Steve Smith?

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    I believe he quoted DA's regular season numbers against the T'Wolves. In the playoffs, DA was a massive disappointment in that first round series. By the final game, DA was worthless and Antonio Daniels was the team's shooting guard.

    DA was pretty damn good in that 2001 regular season. He helped the Spurs put up some of their best regular season stats in history. Come playoff time though, he was a real disappointment and the main reason why DA wasn't re-signed, IMO.

    Yeah just posted his playoff numbers above.

    He made Cliff Robinson look like John Paxson.

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    Where did I ever say he would have made the difference versus LA?

    No where, and that was my opinion.

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    did they get Charles Smith back for DA as well as Steve Smith?

    Yeah the "Secret weapon"

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    if only playoff performance really dictated playing time . . . boner would be permanently glued to the bench.

    i think any non-homer knows that popovich doesn't award playing time based on ability or past performance.

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    BTW on the coaching talk... I don't think Pop needs to go. But he's been decidedly Don Nelson/Larry Brownesque since P.J. left the bench for other opportunities. I don't know for sure but there seems to be a strong correlation between Pop's stupidity in strategy and rotations with PJ leaving (i.e., no sanity check for Pop's coaching decisions).

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    Fitting name.

    GTFO.

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    I thought he was 'Spider-Man'?

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    Mason's number are down across the board this season and he didn't do himself any favors in the playoffs last year when he shot only 0.375% from the field and 0.368% from 3pt. range (and only three free throws).

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    if only playoff performance really dictated playing time . . . boner would be permanently glued to the bench.

    i think any non-homer knows that popovich doesn't award playing time based on ability or past performance.
    Bonner plays now because he plays well in the regular season.

    Totally different example.

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    Mason's agent: 'It's not a trade demand'
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    Mark Bartelstein, the agent for Spurs guard Roger Mason Jr., has clarified comments about Mason's desire to be traded to a team that could offer more playing time.

    "It's not a trade demand," Bartelstein told the Express-News on Monday night. "It's simply, if there's an answer to the problem of not enough minutes, and everybody can come out good, they should look at that. That's all that's going on."

    Bartelstein said Mason was "happy playing for (Gregg Popovich) and San Antonio has been good to him."

    "It's just that players like to play," Bartelstein said.

    Bartelstein insisted Mason would be comfortable finishing the season with the Spurs, should a suitable trading partner not be found.

    "One of the things I really enjoy about working with the Spurs is you can have conversations like this, where you can find something that is good for everyone," Bartelstein said. "They really try to do the right thing by players."

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    As long as we are talking about the past, the Spurs not giving DA a contract turned out to be one of the best moves this FO ever did. 2001 was his absolute peak and he was pretty damn horrible the rest of his career. The Spurs had to suffer through 2002 but not having DA's bloated contract on the books was a big help ... not to mention it allowed room for Manu to step in and play right away.

    At the time I thought letting DA go and getting so little in return was a mistake. But the FO turned out to be 100% right.

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    I figured Mason was in some trouble after that Sacramento game, where he got stripped by Evans in the waning minutes of the 4th. Pop benched him immediately, a la Beno. I could be wrong, but I don't recall him getting any time the next game versus Portland.

    On one hand, I can understand Mason wanting more playing time. After all, he's in a contract year. Even though he was a newcomer to the team, his performances last year certainly warranted it. It's unfortunate that Pop tried, unsuccessfully, to utilize him in ways that his talent wasn't suited for (i.e. backup PG).

    On the other hand, RMJ it's not like he doesn't have flaws. He's still a horrible defender, can't get to the rim, and his effectiveness waned when opposing teams defending him against the 3 pt line.

    Mason, like a lot of players, probably has an overly-inflated opinion of his own value. Based on how this team is going to look next year, I'd say he would've been valuable to keep, but not at an inflated price and certainly not if Pop isn't going to play him consistent minutes. Still, there's no way that Mason should be behind Finley in the rotation, but in Pop's world grudges are often held.

    All that said, this certainly means a trade is eminent, which, if the right move is made, will be a good thing for all. I hope the Spurs smartly pounce on the Thomas/Salmons trade and use the expiring contracts of Bonner/FinleyMason's expiring contracts to get it done.

    Good Luck Mase. We hardly knew ya.

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    Mason's agent: 'It's not a trade demand'
    By Jeff McDonald

    Mark Bartelstein, the agent for Spurs guard Roger Mason Jr., has clarified comments about Mason's desire to be traded to a team that could offer more playing time.

    "It's not a trade demand," Bartelstein told the Express-News on Monday night. "It's simply, if there's an answer to the problem of not enough minutes, and everybody can come out good, they should look at that. That's all that's going on."

    Bartelstein said Mason was "happy playing for (Gregg Popovich) and San Antonio has been good to him."

    "It's just that players like to play," Bartelstein said.

    Bartelstein insisted Mason would be comfortable finishing the season with the Spurs, should a suitable trading partner not be found.

    "One of the things I really enjoy about working with the Spurs is you can have conversations like this, where you can find something that is good for everyone," Bartelstein said. "They really try to do the right thing by players."
    Too late to clean it up now. The die has been cast.

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