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    Heat "coming hard" after Stoudemire...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4917483


    Cavs pursuing Maggette as another fallback option if they fail to land Stoudemire...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4917507


    Let's hope the Spurs make the Thomas deal Tuesday, but last week the word was the Bulls were going to take it to the deadline. Hate to say it because I'm getting impatient, but it makes sense.
    Thomas has always been the guy I thought was highest on the Spurs' radar and Salmons was someone I wanted to accompany him more than I thought was coveted (even if I knew they'd showed interest in the past). But if the Spurs really want Thomas, they're more than likely going to have to take on a Salmons to have the most attractive offer; which would be fine by me and be something they'd definitely be wise to do, imo.

    But my favorite trade has always been the Maggette-Randolph (possibly Bell) for RJ and expirings (maybe a first-rounder), but it's looking more and more a pipe dream -- the Cavs' interest in Maggette doesn't help.

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    I killed them for the Thomas move at the time, but not so much Foye -- I plead a bit of ignorance on the Roy front (didn't see him enough) and was impressed with Foye. (I still believe he's going to be pretty good; something about typing Foye and Roy in succession makes me feel like I'm writing in riddles ... Dr. Seuss, or some .) Their stockpiling of point guards this year was questionable, as well.

    Jamison for VC?

    Maybe I'm misremembering (great word) but that was GS and Orlando's doing.
    And Foye for Roy was Minny, not Chicago.

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    Yeah, that's what I meant; had this year on the brain. . .

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    And Foye for Roy was Minny, not Chicago.
    Back after a hiatus?
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    And Foye for Roy was Minny, not Chicago.


    I'm clearly in overload with all these trade scenarios at the moment . . .

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    Back after a hiatus?
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    Sucks when real life intrudes on my ST time.

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    Thomas has always been the guy I thought was highest on the Spurs' radar and Salmons was someone I wanted to accompany him more than I thought was coveted (even if I knew they'd showed interest in the past). But if the Spurs really want Thomas, they're more than likely going to have to take on a Salmons to have the most attractive offer; which would be fine by me and be something they'd definitely be wise to do, imo.

    But my favorite trade has always been the Maggette-Randolph (possibly Bell) for RJ and expirings (maybe a first-rounder), but it's looking more and more a pipe dream -- the Cavs' interest in Maggette doesn't help.
    Apparently the Bulls are talking to the Nuggets, Rockets and Spurs about Thomas, according to the Tribune.

    Like I said in the other thread, based on what those teams are rumored to be willing to deal, if there's not a third team involved, I like the Spurs chances.

    Mason is a better version of Brown, who the Bulls acquired a few weeks back. He doubles as an expiring contract and someone the Bulls could use, given their lack of outside shooting. Even Bonner may somewhat help in this regard, though I doubt they'd re-sign him, since they'll probably bring in a starting PF with part of their cap space. Mahinmi gives them an athletic big to take a look at to replace Thomas and doubles as an expiring contract. If the Bulls land two good free agents, on top of what they're paying Deng and will be paying Noah and Rose, they'll need cheap talent to fill out the bench; Mahinmi fits the bill. 1st round pick, the value is obvious.

    I've said it for a few weeks and I'll stick to it (only now I'm starting to think the Spurs may actually land Thomas), if they acquire Thomas, this will be the deal:

    To Bulls: Mason, Bonner, Mahinmi, '10 1st round pick

    To Spurs: Thomas, Pargo

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    CLE had talks with Wiz on Antawn Jamison Monday, but didn't chat with Pacers on Troy Murphy, sources say. Indy has 4-5 suitors for Murphy.
    This a bit surprising. 4 or 5 teams willing to swallow Murphy's 12 million next year?

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    Who the F are 4 or 5 idiot teams wanting Murphy!?

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    Who the F are 4 or 5 idiot teams wanting Murphy!?
    ...and how do we get their numbers to get them to call the Spurs about RJ?

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    Denver just doesn't seem to have the contracts, Houston looks like its going the way of NY. That may leave Chicago with only one option. Hmmmm.........

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    Denver just doesn't seem to have the contracts, Houston looks like its going the way of NY. That may leave Chicago with only one option. Hmmmm.........
    Even if Houston wasn't dealing with NY . . . it doesn't seem like Morey's style. He has 3 other dudes the same size as Tyrus (or smaller) that are making half as much as TT's QO.

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    Apparently the Bulls are talking to the Nuggets, Rockets and Spurs about Thomas, according to the Tribune.

    Like I said in the other thread, based on what those teams are rumored to be willing to deal, if there's not a third team involved, I like the Spurs chances.

    Mason is a better version of Brown, who the Bulls acquired a few weeks back. He doubles as an expiring contract and someone the Bulls could use, given their lack of outside shooting. Even Bonner may somewhat help in this regard, though I doubt they'd re-sign him, since they'll probably bring in a starting PF with part of their cap space. Mahinmi gives them an athletic big to take a look at to replace Thomas and doubles as an expiring contract. If the Bulls land two good free agents, on top of what they're paying Deng and will be paying Noah and Rose, they'll need cheap talent to fill out the bench; Mahinmi fits the bill. 1st round pick, the value is obvious.

    I've said it for a few weeks and I'll stick to it (only now I'm starting to think the Spurs may actually land Thomas), if they acquire Thomas, this will be the deal:

    To Bulls: Mason, Bonner, Mahinmi, '10 1st round pick

    To Spurs: Thomas, Pargo
    Yeah, I saw that after I posted -- it doesn't look like they'll need to take on another contract if what said is to be believed. (unfortunate)

    They need three-point shooting and only want to take back expirings, so Mason (whom I hoped would be replacing Salmons) and Bonner (whom will be replacing Thomas and be a nice compliment to their frontline) provide both.

    Mahinmi's basically a flier and numbers-matcher -- which they could be pleasantly surprised with.

    I'm not all that high on Pargo, but the Spurs almost ditched Hill for him and there'd be nothing shocking about seeing him in the black and silver.

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    Jefferson, RMJ, Bonner, Mahinmi and a first for Murphy, Foster and Dahntay Jones?

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    Sucks when real life intrudes on my ST time.
    I try not to let real life do that to me...

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    Yeah, I saw that after I posted -- it doesn't look like they'll need to take on another contract if what said is to be believed. (unfortunate)

    They need three-point shooting and only want to take back expirings, so Mason (whom I hoped would be replacing Salmons) and Bonner (whom will be replacing Thomas and be a nice compliment to their frontline) provide both.

    Mahinmi's basically a flier and numbers-matcher -- which they could be pleasantly surprised with.

    I'm not all that high on Pargo, but the Spurs almost ditched Hill for him and there'd be nothing shocking about seeing him in the black and silver.

    Not as big a Pargo fan as I used to be, but he would be a Pop gem.

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    Jefferson, RMJ, Bonner, Mahinmi and a first for Murphy, Foster and Dahntay Jones?

    ?

    One of the centers whos out for the season? :Lol

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    Not as big a Pargo fan as I used to be, but he would be a Pop gem.
    Can't wait for him to take more shots than Tony in a game 7...
    But hey, at this point beggars can't be choosers...

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    Yeah, I saw that after I posted -- it doesn't look like they'll need to take on another contract if what said is to be believed. (unfortunate)

    They need three-point shooting and only want to take back expirings, so Mason (whom I hoped would be replacing Salmons) and Bonner (whom will be replacing Thomas and be a nice compliment to their frontline) provide both.

    Mahinmi's basically a flier and numbers-matcher -- which they could be pleasantly surprised with.

    I'm not all that high on Pargo, but the Spurs almost ditched Hill for him and there'd be nothing shocking about seeing him in the black and silver.
    We're on the same page.

    As for Pargo, he'd be the 11th man in a 10 man rotation; an insurance policy at the point. The Spurs are already thin their and dealing their third PG in Mason, they'd need someone back to fill the void. Also, in terms of numbers, it makes sense to take back a second player when giving up four. Otherwise, the Spurs would have 2 weeks to fill the 13th spot and the Bulls have no use for Pargo anyway. He's a throw-in that makes sense.

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    Can't wait for him to take more shots than Tony in a game 7...
    But hey, at this point beggars can't be choosers...

    Whats crazy, is that I wouldn't be shocked if he made em.

    I lobbied for him HARD after 08...

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    just about to say , Foster is out for the season

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    ?

    One of the centers whos out for the season? :Lol
    Foster would be in there to make contracts match. Instead of giving talent back for Murphy, the Spurs would basically just absorb two bad contracts.

    Not a very good trade for the Spurs but it'd be the only way to compete with something like Big Z and Hickson.

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    Foster would be in there to make contracts match. Instead of giving talent back for Murphy, the Spurs would basically just absorb two bad contracts.

    Not a very good trade for the Spurs but it'd be the only way to compete with something like Big Z and Hickson.

    If the Cavs want to do that more power to em...

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    So for all of you who have given up on this season would the perfect thursday be:

    Jefferson for Maggette/Randolph/Turiaf

    Mason/Bonner/Finley for Salmons/Thomas=

    This season would be a waste because the chemistry would never come together, but if Manu can somehow be resigned for cheap the 2010 roster would look as follows:

    C-Duncan/Splitter/McDyess(expendable)
    Pf-Randolph/Thomas/Blair/Turiaf(expendable)
    Wings-Manu/Maggette/Salmons/Hill
    Pg-Parker/Hill/Manu

    I know this is a big WHAT IF, but would this be what all you rebuilders perfect situation would be. For what is's worth I still believe in this season.

    p.s. Peter Holt would be BROKE.

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    Wow. The Spurs must not have really wanted Camby. I'm pretty surprised the Blazers would trade for Camby as if he makes them a championship contender.

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