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    Sounds like he's on the market to me.

    But really, the only way I imagine him ending up on the Spurs is if a team like the Suns would rather have a combination of Hill/Blair/Splitter than Beasley. At that point, the Spurs would get involved as a third team. But that ain't happening ... if for no reason other than the "baggie" picture.
    If the Spurs ever did get Beasley he could take twitpics with Hill . . . no one would see the baggie.

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    If the Heat are desperate to unload Michael Beasley to open up salary cap room this summer, I'd be for it. Expirings and a first rounder for Beasley would obviously be a no-brainer. Beasley's value has been falling ... I wonder how far it has actually fallen.
    Not that far.

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    I know the Heat want to get under the cap, but there's apparently been a deal on the table that would send Wright's contract to Memphis that only needs the OK -- removing Wright's contract gets them under the cap and it was said to most likely happen at the deadline . . .
    as far as next year goes, according to Shamsports they only have $30 million committed to 6 players if all options are exercised. They don't really need to dump Beasley for caproom, only rumors I've seen is if they get Stoudemire back.

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    I can't remember the exact number, but it was around $2M and Wright's contract would suffice -- Sham actually called the move with the Griz months ago, before someone at ESPN(?) threw it out as a possibility.

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    I can't remember the exact number, but it was around $2M and Wright's contract would suffice -- Sham actually called the move with the Griz months ago, before someone at ESPN(?) threw it out as a possibility.
    that was with this season's luxury tax.

    I was referring to the idea that Miami could be looking to dump Beasley for expirings+.

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    Yeah, I was solely talking Wright.

    Nonetheless, since I went and dug it up:

    Hollinger:

    The Heat can offer anyone the $951,066 he'll have left on his contract on trade-deadline day to take Wright off their hands, likely adding a sweetener for the trouble (for instance, either more cash or one of the two second-round picks they got from the Hornets on draft day last year). Any number of teams could pull off such a deal, with the prime suspects being the Clippers (a $3.3 million trade exception from the Zach Randolph deal and an owner who loves to make a buck) and the Grizzlies.

    The added benefit of such a deal for Miami is a $2.8 million trade exception that they would carry into next year's trading season, giving the Heat an added means of loading up the roster following their expected free-agent splurge this summer.

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    Heat: Amare Stoudemire, Roger Mason Jr

    Suns: Michael Beasley, Matt Bonner, Michael Finley, Daequan Cook, Ian Mahinmi, 1st Rd pick

    Spurs: Haslem, Wright, Arroyo



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    Spurs were too deep in the perimeter. Keeping everybody happy wasn't an easy task even if I'm surprised that one player say it publicly.

    If Spurs are talking to Heat, The key is to put them below the luxury tax threshold. A trade like that would do it:

    Heat:
    out: Haslem, Cook, Diawara, Magloire (must agree to the trade)
    in: Bonner, Mason, first round pick

    Spurs:
    out: Bonner, Mason, Mahinmi, first round pick (2010 or 2011), cash (about $500K)
    in: Haslem, Cook, Diawara

    Nets:
    in: Mahinmi
    out: nothing

    Detroit:
    in: Magloire, cash
    out: nothing

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    A trade with the Heat involving Roger Mason and Haslem/Wright would make alot of sense, actually one of the many trades I had in mind, mostly because Haslem (humbly) took a bench role this season after starting virtually every game the last 4-5 years, and the Heat are surely looking at Beasley as their future PF for lack of any better options. But much like Buford and Pop, I don't think Riley wants to shake up their team heavily at this late in the season, unless it's an Amare Stoudemire-type trade which could happen for them, so this smaller exchanging of expirers would help both teams in different areas. The heat could take on the perimeter shooting in Mason and one of Bonner (Haslem replacement) or Finley (rumored to sign with Miami back in 05/06). With only Alston, Cook, Arroyo, and Chalmers I'm sure Mason could work his way into that rotation. He's pretty much a Eddie House-JJ Re type gunner with a solid 09 season still kind of fresh, I don't think making it known that he's "on the move" necessarily hurt his value. As far as Haslem goes, I'd definitely welcome him on the Spurs because he's got that Finals and playoff experience, and isn't as big a gamble or commitment as maybe TT and Salmons (even though I like that trade too).

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    Who could possibly help us contend for a le through all of this speculation lately? I see upgrade, but not to contender. Ah, well....We have a few days, lets hide and watch. I shall cross my fingers.

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    I tell you one thing:
    if that all finally turns into a trade that brings in Haslem and James Jones, I want you all to call me Mr. Freud of ST. at least once.
    because
    A: I have been calling this for about 3 decades
    B: I'm probably the only one on this board with the ability to write a profile about James Jones that sounds as if he is in fact a good idea for the Spurs and you guys will crave for any psychological backup you can get.
    C: I'm passing by his house twice a day, so there is a good chance his ghost has hit me accidently.

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    Expect a thread for Haslem and Wright now.
    Gah, I really don't want any part of Udonis Haslem or whoever this Wright guy is. A trade wouldn't hurt my feelings, but not for them.

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    I tell you one thing:
    if that all finally turns into a trade that brings in Haslem and James Jones, I want you all to call me Mr. Freud of ST. at least once.
    because
    A: I have been calling this for about 3 decades
    B: I'm probably the only one on this board with the ability to write a profile about James Jones that sounds as if he is in fact a good idea for the Spurs and you guys will crave for any psychological backup you can get.
    C: I'm passing by his house twice a day, so there is a good chance his ghost has hit me accidently.
    You got it, Mr. Freud.

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    Gah, I really don't want any part of Udonis Haslem or whoever this Wright guy is. A trade wouldn't hurt my feelings, but not for them.
    Well this sucks.

    Haslem would be an upgrade in the rotation over either Bonner or Blair, but isn't really what the spurs need, and isn't worth losing the spurs best outside shooters for (Mason Jr/Bonner).

    What the spurs need is either pure size or an athletic shot-blocker, neither of which Haslem qualifies as.

    I was hoping the spurs would be looking at a Thomas/Salmons/Heinrich trade, if for nothing else than to screw the lakers out of getting Heinrich.

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    Hinrichs contract is horrible.

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    Haslem would be a dream Mav stopper for sure...

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    Haslem would be a dream Mav stopper for sure...
    If there is any undersized PF I would love to see play with Timmy its Haslem. He & Manu has more heart than most whole teams togather.

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    We already have Udonis Haslem.

    His name is Antonio McDyess.

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    We already have Udonis Haslem.

    His name is Antonio McDyess.
    We had dice already. Kurt Thomas. Haslem is qicker & tougher

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    We had dice already. Kurt Thomas. Haslem is qicker & tougher
    Dice has more lateral quickness and foot speed than you give him credit for.

    Dice is not Kurt Thomas. Dice is more versatile on both ends of the floor.

    The only thing they do similar is hit the mid-range with consistency.
    Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 02-16-2010 at 08:28 AM.

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    Here you go, we get our big man and backup PG, and Mason gets accommodated...




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    I love Dice, I just think if we can't get a big I think Haslam would be a great fit an Dice or Blair back him up. Pop just needs to start playing Rat on a regular off the bench.

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    What the spurs need is either pure size or an athletic shot-blocker, neither of which Haslem qualifies as.
    while I agree in general, if we can't get either, but we can get Haslem for something like Mason/Bonner, it would still be a huge help for this team.
    and overall I would think that in the current situation Haslem will help more than TT.
    btw. size and shot-blocker. if you add "interior defender" to the wanted qualities, then Haslem qualifies. he may be undersized, but he is tough, strong and mobile and works his ass off. I bet there are some 7 footers out there, who would prefer to play against any 7 footer before they want to face Haslem.

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    Dice has more lateral quickness and foot speed than you give him credit for.

    Dice is not Kurt Thomas. Dice is more versatile on both ends of the floor.

    The only thing they do similar is hit the mid-range with consistency.
    KT could never hit a mid range J with any consistency in his brief tenure as a spur. I don't know if this was just because he never got a consistent role/minutes w/ Popovich or what, but I like Dice way better.

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    Funny how I look at all the advanced stats that Haslem is not that good a player, but he is rebounding at the best his career, his steals percentage and block percentage has dropped though. And his usage rate increased while seeing little production. He also got his minutes cut for obvious reasons. Just throwing something out there.

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