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We've talked about what the Spurs could offer, but what does Denver have that could be better for Chicago?
Just FYI guys, Thomas was a beast last season in the playoffs against the Celtics.. He's a decent player and a great athlete..
I know people still believe, but we have to be realistic here, there are about 10 teams that will easily kick our asses out of the playoffs if we meet them. I don't have any hope left for this season. Having Thomas or Haslem for next season over Mcdyess would be a great move in my opinion. Gives them time to start learning from now and all the summer. We've needed an athletic big man next to Duncan for years, this is our chance. Even if he is still a raw talent, i think it would be a bold and good move by the FO. Mcdyess will only be getting older and older.
We've talked about what the Spurs could offer, but what does Denver have that could be better for Chicago?
I want Salmons included in the deal because we desperately need someone who can play some defense and be more of an offensive threat than Bogans.
After seeing some life in McDyess's legs, it feels like trading him would be like the Spurs waving the white flag. It may be the most logical move but it would be a painful one to see.
It's odd to me that the same Spurs fans who complain about the team being old then complain when the Spurs are rumored to trade away one of their oldest pieces. I guess they just like complaining . . .
While I'm a big McDyess fan, I just don't think he's a championship quality starting bigman anymore. It's tough to admit but I really do think McDyess is more suited for the role of being the first bigman off the bench. He's solid defensively but he's not above average in any aspect on that end. Good post defender, decent out on the perimeter, decent at times protecting the rim ... but honestly the Spurs likely need more than that.
Thomas is far from a defensive stud but he has the tools to be a top notch shotblocker and also be a guy who can defend out on the perimeter. Since I don't consider the Spurs a championship contender right now, I would have to approve a McDyess for Thomas swap. Thomas gives the Spurs more potential going forward, while McDyess will only be getting worse.
Sucks but it's the new reality of the Spurs.
Thomas had a good series . . . but it could be argued that he was still outperformed by Big Baby, or had an inferior series.
I kinda feel sad for Dice, but c'mon, he's played well 2 weeks in all season. if we can get a younger, athletic big I would pack him now. duncan is the only untouchable in this team.
I don't think they are tanking this season, Duncan would not let that happen. I think that maybe it's more like they don't believe we can win it all with this team, not with all the others teams moving and the disappointment of RJ so far
Haslem is 7 mln Dice 4,5 mln.
Heat got only 2 players (cant believe they take 4,3 mln option on Jones and they do take Chalmers option) for 5,7 mln. So with rule to have 13 players every time, they have 11,2 mln. With salary cup on 51 mln, they have almost 40 mln to spend. If i were Heat I wouldn`t trade Haslem. Sign him next year with his birds rights. He is still valueable, and I suppose he will be cheaper then 4,7 mln Dice. Or if there is Amare trade coming to Heat...
+1. Dice isnt going to get any better...and if the Spurs could get Thomas for Dice...I do it. The Spurs desperately need some youth and energy in the front-court, and Thomas could be the guy to give it to them....
If the Spurs are going to start rebuilding and go young, how about trade McDyess and Manu to Cleveland so that they'll have a shot to beat the Lakers? Watching those two win a ring would be about 2% as cool as watching the Spurs win
do we get a re-upped expiring Szczerbiak in return for RJ?
Go young = trade for Sam Young ?
Now there's some forward thinking. Manu and Dice for Big Z, Hickson, and Danny Green. Buy out Big Z, send him back and start pulling for San Antonio North.If the Spurs are going to start rebuilding and go young, how about trade McDyess and Manu to Cleveland so that they'll have a shot to beat the Lakers? Watching those two win a ring would be about 2% as cool as watching the Spurs win
I have a hard time imagining Dice and Manu dancing with Lebron et al.If the Spurs are going to start rebuilding and go young, how about trade McDyess and Manu to Cleveland so that they'll have a shot to beat the Lakers? Watching those two win a ring would be about 2% as cool as watching the Spurs win
If the trade goes through, the Spurs will have their PF. They would now need a back up PG.
True, but I was responding to Chomag's post on Pop's refusal to trade Finley and Bonner. Now adding Mason and Bonner, would be a slight upgrade, but I guess we'll see after the trade deadline if anything happens.
I don't buy into the argument that if the Spurs trade McDyess that they're waving the white flag - now if they traded Ginobili they would be calling it quits.
McDyess was the secondary option behind Wallace and really both have been pretty lackluster and disappointing. McDyess has a lot of difficulty handling Ginobili's passes and plays; other than a jumpshot he doesn't contribute enough not to put him on the block. Don't get me wrong, he's a decent player but if we can get a younger, athletic big then it might be worth pulling the trigger.
Can't wait until Thursday though.
well if splitter came it would offer a frontline of splitter, thomas and blair down the road. not exactly tim and david but it would at least be a younger and more athletic crew.
I mentioned this in your thread after the laker game. If spurs are aiming to make a move for the future oppose to this year, they should just go all out and get as many future assets they can get for their expiring contracts and do the same next year for RJs contract and possibly parkers.If the Spurs are going to start rebuilding and go young, how about trade McDyess and Manu to Cleveland so that they'll have a shot to beat the Lakers? Watching those two win a ring would be about 2% as cool as watching the Spurs win
Watching Shaq get ring #5 and bragging about how he beat Duncan to the milestone would ing suck. Yes, I would rather see Kobe get #5 than Shaq.If the Spurs are going to start rebuilding and go young, how about trade McDyess and Manu to Cleveland so that they'll have a shot to beat the Lakers? Watching those two win a ring would be about 2% as cool as watching the Spurs win
Maybe Wojnarowski is getting some of those news from Ludden but it's amazing how many news yahoo give us. The crap Monroe/McDonald give us nothing, nada, no news at all.
Since Ludden left yahoo gave us: TD extension, Thomas/Barry trade, RJ trade, Dice signing. Trying to get Camby last season and now Thomas and maybe move Dice
In the same period McDonald/Monroe only did one thing: put up that crap week show
Sad.
That's crazy talk.
Report: Spurs Shopping McDyess
by Graydon Gordian
According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports, the Spurs are looking to trade Antonio McDyess in anticipation of trading for Tyrus Thomas:
The Spurs have been searching for expiring deals to move McDyess, who will make $4.9 million next season and is guaranteed about $2.6 million in 2011-12. Trading McDyess would free minutes and give them greater flexibility to re-sign Thomas this summer if they want. Thomas would give the Spurs a younger, more athletic complement to Tim Duncan, and could be part of a future frontline with former first-round pick Tiago Splitter and rookie DeJuan Blair.
Woj’s analysis seems to hit the nail on the head. If were to trade for (and re-sign) Thomas, as well as sign Splitter, the frontcourt might not have enough minutes to go around. Although McDyess has had his critics amongst Spurs fans this season, I’m a defender of his, and Tim Varner may present some evidence over the next day or two suggesting the Spurs have been at their best when he and Duncan are on the floor together.
Nonetheless, a de facto replacement of McDyess by Thomas would reflect the long term, youth-oriented thinking I’ve been a proponent of recently. Depending on whom McDyess is traded for, it also gives the Spurs more financial flexibility headed into this summer, as the team would no longer be responsible for the $7.5 million McDyess is guaranteed for the remainder of his contract.
Woj throws out the Denver Nuggets as a team with which McDyess would fit smoothly, but names no other potential trade partners.
N.B. Our last two posts have cited reports by Adrian Wojnarowski. The NBA is always ridden with unsubstantiated rumors in the days leading up to the trade deadline, but we do not believe either of these reports are exemplary of that journalistically irresponsible atmosphere. Woj is a good reporter and both Tim and I believe there are good reasons to take these reports seriously.
Rooting against a prick who constantly disrespected the Spurs is crazy?
Not for me. Shaq is no worse than 4th on my list after Kobe/KFC, KG, and Cuban.
Sorry but Dice or not Dice it changes anything.
You people are talking like Dice could be our savior but TT can at least bring us some athletism we need.
I'm okay if we get TT for dice sorry Dice
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