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Shaq is a big clown who runs his mouth clownishly. Kobe is unadulterated, smug evil. The choice is clear: Shaq winning as a buddy/sidekick to a clearly better person in LeBron.
Thinking that this Spurs team, as currently constructed, has any prayer of contending with the Fakers, and now Mavs and Portland, is what's re ed.trading dyess is beyond ing re ed....
If this happens, it's clear the FO has looked at their roster, where they are in the standings and the landscape of the contenders and come to the same conclusion.
Shaq is a big clown who runs his mouth clownishly. Kobe is unadulterated, smug evil. The choice is clear: Shaq winning as a buddy/sidekick to a clearly better person in LeBron.
If the disrespecting prick is Phil Jackson...I am all for it. I would rather see Shaq win than the Phil and Kobe show...
As long as we're giving guys away, how about Manu/Jefferson to Phoenix, not necessarily for Amare, but just to shed Jefferson's salary.
Seeing Manu running with Nash without Pop's leash would be fun to see. I even think Jefferson would be a better fit in Phoenix.
You don't understand, the only teams that would be interested in mcdyess are contenders. The best they would offer are expiring contracts of inferior talent I.e scalabrine and Sheldon Williams and a 1st for mcdyess. Such a trade to a contender would only be increasing the margin between the spurs and the contenders. That is a sign of spurs prioritizing the future over the present . That is if this rumor is true.
Kobe once said he wanted to elbow Sean Elliott in his transplanted kidney
But seriously, Shaq getting ring number five as like a 6th option is better than Kobe getting ring number five as a first option ... and then having a good argument to pass Duncan in the all-time ranks. It sucks either way but I would have to root for San Antonio North.
I would be all for this trade...Mcdyess is part of the reason this roster isn't living up to it's potential. Better to have one of the factors change and hope for the best than standing pat and watching this team go further into decline.
I think you can win now with trading for Thomas. Dice and Blair coming off the bench would be fantastic and Thomas can start...
Trading mcdyess is idiotic...
If they had the contracts, I'd rather them move Tim to OKC.Kobe once said he wanted to elbow Sean Elliott in his transplanted kidney
But seriously, Shaq getting ring number five as like a 6th option is better than Kobe getting ring number five as a first option ... and then having a good argument to pass Duncan in the all-time ranks. It sucks either way but I would have to root for San Antonio North.
'Eh, Jackson already has #10, so there's really no more resume padding for him.
i wouldnt say idiotic...
do we really want to be committed to dyess for 3 more years, especially with him having the horry effect (not trying in the 1st half of the season)... if someone is willing to take his contract and we can get a younger big man i would be for it... even though i like the way dyess has been playing the last few games but not like its been THAT good. hes just been trying harder.
This is basically my thought as well. I'm against trading Dice, especially since his best basketball of the season is almost certainly yet to come. I think Thomas is overrated by many on this board, but I'd be willing to try him out and see what he can do with minutes in the system. The Thomas/Duncan and Blair/Dice pairings you mentioned would work well defensively and create a nice boost off the bench.
As I mentioned when talking about a potential Haslem trade, undersized and mobile PFs like Haslem and Thomas might give Pop his taste of small ball while still having two bigs on the court. That would be a big plus for the Spurs defense.
Kobe's already going to get that love anyways for playing his whole career in LA, the same way everyone in the media always thought Ewing was better than Robinson.Kobe once said he wanted to elbow Sean Elliott in his transplanted kidney
But seriously, Shaq getting ring number five as like a 6th option is better than Kobe getting ring number five as a first option ... and then having a good argument to pass Duncan in the all-time ranks. It sucks either way but I would have to root for San Antonio North.
This is the point I've been harping on for weeks. The Spurs ARE NOT going to overthrow the Fakers this year and probably not next year. All the contenders are getting appreciably better. Every Western Conference contender, except the Mavs, has younger talent. Talent that have been waxing the Spurs asses all season long.
The offseason acquisitions were bold and swift. The FO should not be ashamed for taking the risk. However, it didn't work. Unfortunately for the Spurs, the failed RJ trade signaled a huge mistake and the slamming of the championship window. It's better to cut the losses now and move forward with those improvements.
To avoid a total and dramatic roster overhaul in 2-3 years, it's better to gradually improve the talent level by adding a couple of younger, more talented pieces at a time.
I don't know anybody who thinks Ewing was better than Robinson. I live in New York and know tons of Knicks fans and no one thinks Ewing was better.
If Dyess is happy (emphasis on those two words) to go back to Denver and the Nuggets and Spurs can pull it off, then id be all for Dyess playing alongside his buddy Chauncey again
A front court rotation of Melo/Dyess/K/Nene/Birdman , that would be pretty sweet
for the spurs to try to get rid of dyess, they MUST have an offer that Chicago really likes!
The national media always did. I remember reading all those top bigmen of all-time lists that were so popular a few years ago when Shaq and Duncan were both in their primes, and national writers like Jack Ramsay (and lots of others) always put Ewing ahead.
I personally think this year RJ do not get the system. Some player are slow or lost out there due not knowing where they fit. Next year RJ will be more confident and now what to do.
Also i think he is thinking way to much and put a lot of pressure to himself.
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I defintely agree with everything you said. The offseason acquisitions simply have not worked out as planned. This isn't Dice's fault, though he's culpable. Despite the fact that he's come on a bit as of late, he's been a big disappointment overall. His defense on the quick PFs has been very underwhelming, at best. I just think the Spurs got him too late in his career. Had the Spurs been able to get him 2 years ago, instead of KT, then maybe.
Now it's time to upgrade the talent level along the frontline. Duncan cannot continue to be paired up with +30 year-old running mates, where he STILL has to do the lionshare of the work on both ends.
I don't know for sure, but I hardly think Dice would be disappointed to go back and play with his boy Billups.If Dyess is happy (emphasis on those two words) to go back to Denver and the Nuggets and Spurs can pull it off, then id be all for Dyess playing alongside his buddy Chauncey again
A front court rotation of Melo/Dyess/K/Nene/Birdman , that would be pretty sweet
MmmKay. They don't now.
I also live in NY and I can vouch for Mr. Body..
As I said in the NBA forum when this was brought up, Shaq winning a le as a #4 or #5 option means nothing at all, nobody remembers guys that win les as distant options.. , a lot of people forget that Shaq even had an impact on the Heat, even though he had a big part in it..who cares if he brags?..
As timvp said, Kobe winning another le would give him a great argument ahead of Duncan..I only know a few Shaq homers and they aren't even nearly as bad as Al-Quobe, the terrorist organization that continues to spread all over the internet..
Shaq is an insecure clown that will have occasional funny moments, while Kobe is a snitching rapist that s on his teammates..not a tough choice..
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