Spurs interested in Bulls' Thomas?

[jesterbobman]

Miller, doesn't matter, He's an expiring that was offerred to make up space on a bigger expiring. It's as a combo with Hinrich, Deng or Salmons that Tyrus will be moved with (if he is) as it cuts definite space from the cap. That's why the Deng+ Thomas for Al Jefferson + Blount type deals are a threat. Makes sense for both teams in terms of fit, they have similar contracts, and Tyrus Thomas for cap space(+ Potentially a later Minnesota pick or 1 of the 3 they have in this draft) is a challenge, Though Kahn seems like he wants to keep Al and Love together a bit longer, and a 1 for 1 swap will probably be on the table for both teams in the offseason anyway, so there's no desperation for either to make that move.

[Spurs Brazil]

The Spurs are still intrigued by Thomas. They’ve had talks about moving Antonio McDyess(notes) and the remaining $7.5 million on his contract after this season to open minutes and create flexibility to possibly re-sign Thomas in the summer. Having to also take on Salmons, however, would likely be a deal-breaker. The two teams talked on Tuesday, but Chicago wasn’t in position to make a deal with Thomas until resolving negotiations with the Rockets.

The Spurs’ best chance to move McDyess, should it become necessary, would be to the Denver Nuggets. The Nuggets are interested in another big man for the playoffs, and McDyess has a history in Denver which would make him comfortable with the move.

The Nuggets have given up hope that they can acquire Thomas. Bulls general manager Gar Forman isn’t interested in expiring Denver contracts which won’t help them reach the playoffs, nor a draft pick that’ll likely be late in the draft. The Knicks still have interest with Thomas for Al Harrington(notes) but don’t have a draft pick to appease the Bulls.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

[ace3g]

Having to also take on Salmons, however, would likely be a deal-breaker.

hopefully this part isn't true, and the Spurs would want Salmons in the deal with TT

[benefactor]

For a team that desires to contend in the final years of Duncan's career, not wanting to take on Salmons for financial reasons is pretty foolish.

[timaios]

For a team that desires to contend in the final years of Duncan's career, not wanting to take on Salmons for financial reasons is pretty foolish.

With Salmons on the team next year, it means no more money for Manu & Splitter.

Spurs next year :

Tim Duncan $18,835,381
Richard Jefferson $15,200,000
Tony Parker $13,650,000
Antonio McDyess $4,860,000
George Hill $854,389
DeJuan Blair $918,000
+
Tyrus Thomas $6,256,806
John Salmons $5,808,000

Total : $66,382,576 for 8 players !!!

The Spurs can't take the Salmons contract... or they are ed next year.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Hard to understand the Bulls. From reports, it turns out that they are willing to shift productive players (Thomas, Miller) along with dead meat such as Jerome James for T'Mac's cadaver and Brian Cook! While they are insisting on the Spurs taking Salmons' contract. I dont get it. The Spurs' offer of Mason for Thomas would ensure that Thomas is off the books and the Bulls can get a decent backup combo guard in Mason, which is more or less in tune with what they would get from Houston, except they would have to give up Brad Miller as well.

Can't understand what is going on between the horns of the Bulls.

[CGD]

With Salmons on the team next year, it means no more money for Manu & Splitter.

Spurs next year :

Tim Duncan $18,835,381
Richard Jefferson $15,200,000
Tony Parker $13,650,000
Antonio McDyess $4,860,000
George Hill $854,389
DeJuan Blair $918,000
+
Tyrus Thomas $6,256,806
John Salmons $5,808,000

Total : $66,382,576 for 8 players !!!

The Spurs can't take the Salmons contract... or they are ed next year.

This is the issue facing the Spurs, and frankly I don't see Holt having the tolerance for bring on TT and Salmons.

I think we're more likely to see a smaller trade go down (e.g., Mase to Memphis for a trade exception) before Holt takes on Salmons.

[Bruno]

Tyrus Thomas $6,256,806

It's a qualifying offer, Spurs could decline to pick it.

[Spursfanfromafar]

It's a qualifying offer, Spurs could decline to pick it.

That means that they can retain McDyess for this season if they are taking Thomas, right? Unless they are forced to take Salmons' contract.

[SenorSpur]

See if you've heard this before. There is a chance the Rockets could foil the Spurs trade plans with Chicago.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

The Houston Rockets continued to hold substantive talks with the New York Knicks and Chicago Bulls about exiled guard Tracy McGrady(notes), with sources close to the negotiations saying the Rockets had yet to finalize their decision.

The Bulls spent late Tuesday gathering information on McGrady, evidence they at least thought they remained in the bidding. Still, some league executives say they think the Rockets ultimately hope to strike a deal with the Knicks and are using the Bulls as leverage to get New York to firm up its offer.

As for McGrady’s wishes?

“I’m ready to play for whoever,” McGrady said in an email Tuesday night.

As Yahoo! Sports first reported on Monday, the framework of the deal between the Rockets and Knicks would have Houston sending McGrady, Brian Cook(notes) and Joey Dorsey(notes) to New York for guard Larry Hughes(notes), Jordan Hill(notes) and Jared Jeffries(notes). The two teams also would swap first-round picks in 2011 and the Knicks would send the Rockets their first-round selection in 2012.

In addition to persuading the Knicks to include Hill, the draft picks also have been haggling points. The Rockets have so far asked a hefty price for taking on the contract of Jeffries, who will make $6.9 million next season. Removing Jeffries – and Hill – from their payroll could allow the Knicks to try to sign two top-tier free agents this summer in a class that includes LeBron James(notes), Dwyane Wade(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes).

The Bulls’ package for McGrady includes Tyrus Thomas(notes), Brad Miller(notes) and either John Salmons(notes) or Kirk Hinrich(notes). Chicago has tried to attach Salmons to packages involving Thomas, which has tempered the demand for him.

The Spurs are still intrigued by Thomas. They’ve had talks about moving Antonio McDyess(notes) and the remaining $7.5 million on his contract after this season to open minutes and create flexibility to possibly re-sign Thomas in the summer. Having to also take on Salmons, however, would likely be a deal-breaker. The two teams talked on Tuesday, but Chicago wasn’t in position to make a deal with Thomas until resolving negotiations with the Rockets.

[jiggy_55]

See if you've heard this before. There is a chance the Rockets could foil the Spurs trade plans with Chicago.

This was posted a few posts above

[hater]

now Thomas is being way overrated

[CGD]

Houston holds all the cards, but I'm pretty sure that the Knicks will sure up their offer. They have to if they have ANY hope of landing LBJ and good parts to go around him this summer.

It's wild how many of these trade proposal can be traced to LBJ in some way. Even Miami trying to land Amare is done in part out of fear that Wade may leave and team up with the guy in NYC. , even the Clippers' salary dump is traceable; David Aldridge suggested recently that Sterling is trying to make a splash this summer.

[benefactor]

It's a qualifying offer, Spurs could decline to pick it.

This.

[MaNu4Tres]

FWIW

I'm listening to 610am here in Houston and they are saying the deal between Rockets and Bulls will nearly be a done deal here pretty soon.

[CGD]

FWIW

I'm listening to 610am here in Houston and they are saying the deal between Rockets and Bulls will nearly be a done deal here pretty soon. FWIW

Thanks for the info. It's up to the Knicks at this point, but if I'm Houston I take this down to the wire.

[benefactor]

With Salmons on the team next year, it means no more money for Manu & Splitter.

Spurs next year :

Tim Duncan $18,835,381
Richard Jefferson $15,200,000
Tony Parker $13,650,000
Antonio McDyess $4,860,000
George Hill $854,389
DeJuan Blair $918,000
+
Tyrus Thomas $6,256,806
John Salmons $5,808,000

Total : $66,382,576 for 8 players !!!

The Spurs can't take the Salmons contract... or they are ed next year.

Just to put things in perspective...the Spurs had 73.5 million on only 8 players this season.

[Mr. Body]

That's hilarious. Houston comes in once again to (possibly) screw the Spurs.

[MaNu4Tres]

It looks like Thomas and Salmons could have been had for just expirings.

Why Spurs didn't take the plunged indicates Holt wanting to cut back on the luxury next year.



Rockets would rather take on the salary of Salmons than Jared Jeffries ( NY Deal) for next year, which is a no brainer for the Rockets.

Good deal for them if it goes through.

[MaNu4Tres]

Malik Hairston better be ready to play a significant role next year.

[Agloco]

Malik Hairston better be ready to play a significant role next year.

I believe he was ready this year...... too bad Pop didn't

[CGD]

It looks like Thomas and Salmons could have been had for just expirings.

Why Spurs didn't take the plunged indicates Holt wanting to cut back on the luxury next year.



Rockets would rather take on the salary of Salmons than Jared Jeffries ( NY Deal) for next year, which is a no brainer for the Rockets.

Good deal for them if it goes through.

I agree. If I'm Houston the Bulls Deal > Knicks Deal. Jordan Hill is a good prospect, but TT provides immediate help. Plus, as has been mentioned before, Houston can simply let TT walk if he's not a good fit.

[Mr. Body]

It looks like Thomas and Salmons could have been had for just expirings.

Why Spurs didn't take the plunged indicates Holt wanting to cut back on the luxury next year.



Rockets would rather take on the salary of Salmons than Jared Jeffries ( NY Deal) for next year, which is a no brainer for the Rockets.

Good deal for them if it goes through.

Holt just took on a -load of contract with Richard Jefferson and how did that work out? I'd actually be pissed for his sake if he took on Salmons at this point.

[mountainballer]

The Bulls’ package for McGrady includes Tyrus Thomas(notes), Brad Miller(notes) and either John Salmons(notes) or Kirk Hinrich(notes). Chicago has tried to attach Salmons to packages involving Thomas, which has tempered the demand for him.

if the Bulls do this, they more or less say good buy to this season. none knows if and at what level t-mac can play, but much more they are already not the deepest team with 2 bigs struggling with plantar f.
4 players from their top 8 rotation for one guy, who might not play.
but the Bulls are still in a PO position, are they really willing to tank? can't see this.

[Mel_13]

Just to put things in perspective...the Spurs had 73.5 million on only 8 players this season.

The key difference:

This year's payroll was approved with the belief that the current roster had a realistic shot of competing for a championship.

Adding playing like Thomas and Salmons, and perhaps Splitter, to the existing core make the team better, but even through rose-colored glasses it is difficult to view the Spurs as championship contenders.

I've reached the point where I don't believe that there are transactions out there that make the Spurs into contenders again in the Duncan era, even if Holt were willing to spend like Cuban. I don't think that they'll follow the Portland or OKC example and blow the whole thing up, but it make sense to let the older pieces leave by trade or contract expiration and replace them, one by one, with younger, more athletic players.

Then you proceed with an orderly transition towards the post-Duncan era. They tried to keep the championship open with the notion that the inevitable rebuilding could wait until 2011 or 2012. If championships are no longer possible, there's no reason not to begin that process right now.

I still think that if they can get Thomas/Salmons for Finley/Mason/Bonner then they should, but they may have reached the point where role players on the wrong side of 30 are no longer interesting for MLE level salaries, even for one year.