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    Ginobili-Jefferson-Hill/Hinrich-Thomas/John Salmons trade

    The Specifics: The Bulls get George Hill, Richard Jefferson, Manu Ginobili and Ryan Gomes; the Spurs get Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich, Jerome James and Damien Wilkins; and the Timberwolves get John Salmons.

    Why It Works:

    • For the Bulls: One major thing is that Chicago would finally be able to stop from having Thomas to repeatedly jerk around and he them. Getting Hill to pair as a combo guard with Derrick Rose would be a threatening backcourt of speed and strength, while Manu would give Chicago another threat to score and distribute for a short amount with his expiring contract, giving the Bulls more flexibility in the summer and a good look at whether Manu can do damage for them in seasons to come. R.J. could get the chance to blossom with a less systematic offense and provide the Bulls the slashing scorer that they’ve thought Luol Deng would be become. Ryan Gomes would be comp for Deng and James Johnson to step on the perimeter and low-post.

    • For the Spurs: San Antonio gets much-needed shot-blocking and athleticism from Thomas, but Thomas gets a franchise mature enough to grow him up as a still-young 23-year-old, next to the immortal Tim Duncan; paired with DeJuan Blair, the duo could be an elite rebounding frontcourt. Getting Hinrich would give San Antone a reliable backcourt threat with Tony Parker or behind him. James would likely just sit on the bench, as the Spurs would wait for his contract to expire, and Wilkins could provide some good minutes as a defender and spot-up shooter.

    • For the T’wolves: Minnesota would be able to get an adequate rotation player and scorer in Salmons, while putting pressure on some of the team’s young wings to develop and flourish as well. Letting go of Ryan Gomes would relieve some of the pressure in the stacked frontcourt as well.
    Wow. That makes some of these horrible trade ideas on ST look genius.

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    Yikes.

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    The NBA has fined an unspecified team for announcing a trade before its official completion and has warned the others via memo.

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    Wojnarowski of Yahoo just now:

    "Around the NBA, some team officials are privately wondering: After listening to San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich disparage them over Pau Gasol’s trade to the Los Angeles Lakers, would the Memphis Grizzlies be hesitant on making a deal with the Spurs?

    After all, veteran shooter Roger Mason is available in San Antonio and Memphis needs some scoring off its bench. Yes, sources say, the Grizzlies do have an interest with Mason and have the cap space to absorb much of his $3.7 million salary. But a league source says Grizzlies general manager Chris Wallace still needs the OK from owner Michael Heisley to take on the contract.


    Mason has fallen out of the Spurs’ rotation and the organization is working with his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to find a trade."

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
    Saving $4M by dumping Mason could be too interesting for Spurs to say no.

    If it's the only move Spurs do, they are quite giving up on this season. Now, Spurs could also do after that a Bonner+Mahinmi+1st round pick for Thomas. It would be way more financially sound than taking Salmons contract.

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    The NBA has fined an unspecified team for announcing a trade before its official completion and has warned the others via memo.
    Sounds like Cuban fined again.

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    The NBA has fined an unspecified team for announcing a trade before its official completion and has warned the others via memo.
    lol, way to go Kings announcer

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    Wow. That makes some of these horrible trade ideas on ST look genius.
    Agreed. Dude must be a Bulls fan proposing a trade THAT lopsided.

    Thankfully Spurs fans would never propose such lopsided crap trades...

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    Someone will be stupid enough to give Mahinmi more than that.
    Any team that isn't stupid will offer Mahinmi more than that. If you need a big, that kind of money is a cheap gamble.

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    Wojnarowski of Yahoo just now:

    "Around the NBA, some team officials are privately wondering: After listening to San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich disparage them over Pau Gasol’s trade to the Los Angeles Lakers, would the Memphis Grizzlies be hesitant on making a deal with the Spurs?

    After all, veteran shooter Roger Mason is available in San Antonio and Memphis needs some scoring off its bench. Yes, sources say, the Grizzlies do have an interest with Mason and have the cap space to absorb much of his $3.7 million salary. But a league source says Grizzlies general manager Chris Wallace still needs the OK from owner Michael Heisley to take on the contract.


    Mason has fallen out of the Spurs’ rotation and the organization is working with his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to find a trade."

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
    Yeah, some of us worried about this scenario back when Pop was bashing Memphis. While he was right, it was a bad business move to call out another team's FO.

    I'd be fine with RMJ for nothing. Though that better not be the only trade the Spurs do. It could look like a white flag to the fans and maybe even the team.

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    lol, way to go Kings announcer

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    Saving $4M by dumping Mason could be too interesting for Spurs to say no.

    If it's the only move Spurs do, they are quite giving up on this season. Now, Spurs could also do after that a Bonner+Mahinmi+1st round pick for Thomas. It would be way more financially sound than taking Salmons contract.
    So if they dump him do they get a TE? Can they turn around and use it? Sorry for constantly having to ask you about the salary rules, but I just don't do well with the financial stuff.

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    Wojnarowski of Yahoo just now:

    "Around the NBA, some team officials are privately wondering: After listening to San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich disparage them over Pau Gasol’s trade to the Los Angeles Lakers, would the Memphis Grizzlies be hesitant on making a deal with the Spurs?

    After all, veteran shooter Roger Mason is available in San Antonio and Memphis needs some scoring off its bench. Yes, sources say, the Grizzlies do have an interest with Mason and have the cap space to absorb much of his $3.7 million salary. But a league source says Grizzlies general manager Chris Wallace still needs the OK from owner Michael Heisley to take on the contract.


    Mason has fallen out of the Spurs’ rotation and the organization is working with his agent, Mark Bartelstein, to find a trade."

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
    To make Pops feel better about Memphis's trade abilities:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yg78g9c

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    Yeah, some of us worried about this scenario back when Pop was bashing Memphis. While he was right, it was a bad business move to call out another team's FO.

    I'd be fine with RMJ for nothing. Though that better not be the only trade the Spurs do. It could look like a white flag to the fans and maybe even the team.
    Nah, if we do nothing else it looks like we were trying to do right by a player, all while getting something fair in return.

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    Yeah, some of us worried about this scenario back when Pop was bashing Memphis. While he was right, it was a bad business move to call out another team's FO.
    Yeah that started looking worse after the sale of the team fell through. It's possible Pop's comments could be perceived as having something to do with that. I might hold a grudge if another team's coach cost me 300 million dollars.

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    Wait, who is Memphis willing to give up for Roger Mason? Unless it involves DeMarre Carroll, Mike Conley, Marc Gasol, Rudy Gay, OJ Mayo, Zach Randolph, Hasheem Thabeet, or Sam Young, I don't want any part of that trade.

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    You can say whatever you want about what pop said but the reality is that any GM worth half a would be intelligent enough to make a move if it helps his team regardless of whether or not they like Pop.

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    So if they dump him do they get a TE? Can they turn around and use it? Sorry for constantly having to ask you about the salary rules, but I just don't do well with the financial stuff.
    They would get a big trade exception ($3.8M). They can use it to get a player with a salary lower than $3.9M. The mason to Memphis could also be a part of a bigger trade .

    Now, Spurs will likely keep the TE if they do this trade because they will save a lot of money by doing it.

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    Yeah, some of us worried about this scenario back when Pop was bashing Memphis. While he was right, it was a bad business move to call out another team's FO.

    I'd be fine with RMJ for nothing. Though that better not be the only trade the Spurs do. It could look like a white flag to the fans and maybe even the team.
    I'd be worried if it was the Spurs trying to get something for nothing from MEM like the Lakers . . . but in this case it's the opposite. MEM gets to look like they're the ones who stole from the Spurs after Mason goes off for 12-15 a game the remainder of the season in a bid for a new contract.

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    79 pages and not 1 good trade option.

    Stop ppl. please stop. There will be NO TRADE. not because there shouldn't be one, but because there isn't one.

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    79 pages and not 1 good trade option.

    Stop ppl. please stop. There will be NO TRADE. not because there shouldn't be one, but because there isn't one.
    Should we make up a trade that a "friend" told us like you did?

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    They would get a big trade exception ($3.8M). They can use it to get a player with a salary lower than $3.9M. The mason to Memphis could also be a part of a bigger trade .

    Now, Spurs will likely keep the TE if they do this trade because they will save a lot of money by doing it.
    Dorell Wright and a million bucks in the bank would be a nice alternative to Mason sitting on the bench.

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    Should we make up a trade that a "friend" told us like you did?
    sure. you can use my thread

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    79 pages and not 1 good trade option.

    Stop ppl. please stop. There will be NO TRADE. not because there shouldn't be one, but because there isn't one.
    Richard Jefferson for LeBron James. There's a damn good trade option for us.

    Not saying that the staff in Cleveland are ra- s and will go for it, but it is a good trade option. So ha.

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    They would get a big trade exception ($3.8M). They can use it to get a player with a salary lower than $3.9M. The mason to Memphis could also be a part of a bigger trade .

    Now, Spurs will likely keep the TE if they do this trade because they will save a lot of money by doing it.
    Bruno,

    Can Memphis absorb Mason's contract without going over the salary cap? If not, how much salary has to come back to the Spurs to make this work under the CBA?

    thanks

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    Bruno,

    Can Memphis absorb Mason's contract without going over the salary cap? If not, how much salary has to come back to the Spurs to make this work under the CBA?

    thanks
    I tried it and it told me they couldn't absorb his whole contract. They have a couple of guys that don't make much and could be bought out. Jamaal "better than Tony Parker" Tinsley is one of them.

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