Ok, from what I've been reading it was an agreed upon deal for the nuggets to buy out the rest of his contract (6mil) and let him go back to Detroit. Price they were willing to pay in order to make the deal for Billups. So it was probably more the fact that the pistons wanted him back than McDyess refusing to play there.
Yeh it sounds like Dyess and the Nuggets are cool. I was unsure of the reason why he didn't stay in Denver at first. Rumours swirled around saying that he refused to play for Denver but then it came out that it was all about savings.
I'd welcome Dyess in Denver. But what would the Spurs want in return? Expirings?
Provide a link about a prior arrangement or just stop.
Dice Had 15M remaining on his contract. He took 6M in the buyout and then signed back with Detroit for the minimum. He wanted to stay Detroit and gave up millions to do so.
Chicago would prob want the expiring deals in order to off load both Thomas and Salmons.
Just give us Melo, we'll throw in Keith Bogan and Michael Finley so you don't lack any depth in the position.
I said it was probably a little bit of both, so I'm not exactly in disagreement here. McDyess (erroneously) thinking his Iverson led-Pistons still had a shot at something and the pistons making a prior arrangement with the nuggets for the buyout and return in order to push the trade through.
Costly as it was, it ended up being a pretty wise move for the nuggets in hindsight.
It definitely worked for Denver. That started the summer of 2008 way over the lux tax with a team that couldn't win a playoff series. They salary dumped Camby for nothing, then lucked into the Iverson trade and bought out Dice for 40% of the remaining value of his contract.
When it was all said and done, they were under the lux tax and had a much better team. Their GM went from idiot to genius in a few months.
If the Spurs salary-dumped Mason, Pargo would be their only choice given the remaining contracts.
Spurs could do Bonner/Fin/Mahinmi or just Bonner/Fin for Thomas/Pargo. Obviously the Bulls would want a 1st round pick as well.
More insight from the folks at nba.com:
"The Bulls are offering a package believed to include center Brad Miller and swingman John Salmons. Forward Tyrus Thomas may be in the package as well, but many around the league think the Bulls would like to hold him out of this deal and do a separate trade with either San Antonio or Denver for Thomas. The Spurs have coveted Thomas's athletic abilities at the defensive end for more than a year, and have recently told guard Roger Mason they'll try to accommodate his wishes for a trade."
Bring in Brad Miller too.
Miller still has game.
This is driving me nuts.
This is driving me nuts.
just another day and itll all come to light
New has come to light man!
Just kidding...it's the same old stuff so far.
Anytime someone refrences the greatness that is the big lebowski I highly support it!
Rockets Leaning Toward Keeping McGrady
SportingNews
It’s been about eight weeks since the Rockets and used-to-be star guard Tracy McGrady parted ways, with Houston vowing to find a trade for McGrady. Over the last few days, a number of scenarios emerged—the most serious involving the Bulls and Knicks—and reports had McGrady’s departure from Houston seeming imminent.
But on Wednesday, sources told SN that the Rockets are now indicating they are leaning toward not trading McGrady—for now, at least. Houston, apparently, is unhappy with the offers it has gotten from the Bulls and the Knicks, which would involve the Rockets taking on too much long-term salary and not getting enough young assets in return.
The Bulls’ offer, reported in the Chicago Tribune, is the expiring contract of center Brad Miller ($12.3 million), plus forward Tyrus Thomas and either John Salmons or Kirk Hinrich. The Rockets don’t want Salmons, who has a player option for next season, and the remainder of Hinrich’s contract (he’s signed for two years after this season, at $17 million combined) is too hefty for the Rockets. The Bulls have been seeking a third team to make the deal work, but a source told SN that those efforts were not getting very far.
The Knicks’ offer centers on the expiring contract of Larry Hughes ($13.6 million), plus Jared Jeffries and a swap of draft picks. Contrary to reports, a source close to the negotiation has told SN that the Knicks have said they won’t part with rookie big man Jordan Hill in the deal, and if the Bulls are unable to sweeten their offer, the Knicks would have no reason to include him, because they’d be essentially bidding against themselves.
Of course, that’s one reason that Houston may be saying it’s going to pull out of McGrady dealings altogether—it’s a good smoke screen to give the Knicks some incentive to include Hill. If the Knicks are not bidding against the Bulls, the Rockets must make it seem that they’re bidding against something, and no deal at all is at least something. It’s no secret that the Knicks are desperate to unload Jeffries, because they would then be likely to have enough cap space this summer to make max-contract offers to two free agents, upping their chances at getting two of the top three (LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh) players on the market this summer.
McGrady’s expiring contract is worth more than $23 million.
Either that or it will be time to turn out the lights.
Damn the Fk'n Rockets if they take Tyrus Thomas from us....but why they would wanna keep T-Mac around for nothing is pretty dumb...
Rockets are just trying to play hardball, though they're not really in a great position to do so.
Either way, the reports were that they still favored a Knicks deal anyways...so it shouldn't alter the pursuit of TT by the Spurs.
I really dont see the reason why chicago would trade thomas expiring for our expiring, actually that isnt going to happen at all, spurs would have to be willing to take on salmons if this was going to work.
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Bulls have fallen out of consideration for TMac and Houston focus on negotiating draft pick protection to complete NY deal, sources say.
Spurs would have to throw in first round pick or Splitter's rights...but you're probably right. To make this deal make sense the Spurs would probably have to take on Salmons and give up Mason.
Per Woj on twitter (on iphone)
Bulls have fallen out of consideration for TMac, Houstin focuses on negotiating draft pick protection to complete NY deal, sources say.
Unless we include a pick, which reportedly the Bulls have been seeking.
I like the sound of the Bulls being out of it now....
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...alizing_trade/
Salmons told to stay at hotel for pending trade to get wrapped up
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