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We have a winner.
This tells me you know very little about statistics.
And this tells me you're simply unrealistic. Duncan averages 11 rebounds. 26 rebounds is an anomaly, very far from the norm. Considering one of the major defensive problems with this team has been second chance points, rebounding is single handedly one of the priorities.
We have a winner.
Even Timvp considers Bonner the second best bigman defensively on this team (not potentially, but currently), and still the haters call him a 'severe defensive liability.'
A large portion of spurfan just doesn't know basketball
If you are tired of the Bonner hating now, you should be near dead from exhaustion by season's end.
I love his hustle. We just all know what his limitations are, except Pop I guess...
+1 I think much of the commotion is about him starting, not him as a complete player. Off the bench against their number 2 he's very servicable and completes a nice bench. He's limited, we know that. But Pop continues to overvalue his game. It aint' Bonner's fault Pop thinks he's a starter. And yes he has some great sandwich reviews too!
This tells me how uninformed you are.
We are 9th in the league in rebounding, while contenders like Cleveland (14th) and Boston (29th) and the Nuggets (18th) are all below us. Duncan is our main rebounder, and if our problem has been second chance points, that indicates our whole team is having a problem boxing out and doesn't have so much to do with our rebounding deficiencies.
I'm pretty much a 100% with O_V on this one..
I've defended Bonner in a lot of threads, especially since so many people on him, but he simply is NOT a starter on an NBA team, let alone a team that wants to compete with the best..he's a SOLID bench player, but he's NOT a starter under any cir stance..
Bonner coming off the bench was going great for us before his injury..he didn't have to guard any important players, and he continued to make his shots at a high level..
leave Bonner alone!
Wait... Balir doesn't have a knack for scoring? I guess the rapport he and Manu have built hasn't led to any scoring, only rebounding? Dude has a knack to make things happen around the basket period (rebounding and scoring). You must not have been paying attention. So far he's got a 20/20 and in very good company for rooks who have done that. Letting him plya without his training wheels in the Rookie Sophmore game the MVP named him co-MVP. Says a lot more about a player than him being a rebounding force only.
going to have lunch with sister at bush middle school, hopefully there will be a trade deadline deal for a defensive wing. luc richard for mason one time!!!
Just a minor point, but you're one of the posters I make sure to read and I've seen you post something this several times.
Whatever recollection you have of Bonner from before last season, it couldn't have been from the Laker series.
In that series:
Game 1- not in uniform
Game 2- not in uniform
Game 3- 3 minutes in garbage time
Game 4- DNP-CD
Game 5- DNP-CD
Perhaps I'm thinking of the regular season games versus the Fakers in '08. One recollection I have of him Bonner is very clear: he came up small versus the Fakers in several games against them that year. I recall one marquee reqular season game in the Staples Center. Of course, Manu was out. However, Phil Jackson geared his entire defense toward shutting TP out of the paint. Thereby choosing to leave Bonner open on the perimeter. Bonner had many, numerous open looks in that game, as the Fakers practically dared him to keep shooting. He failed miserably.
Where was he against the Mavs in the playoffs of '09?
This is great satire.
The reason we've been rebounding fairly well is BECAUSE we've not played a 3 rebound per game career average player. Exactly why I don't want to see him out there starting, or playing more than 10 or so minutes, unless he's shooting lights out. And that he's just as bad as the rest of the team boxing out is no excuse: It's still bad.
But again, I don't blame Matt for it. We know who he is and what he can give you. The problem is on Pop for putting him on a position to fail.
Not defending Bonner.
Just getting the facts in order.
Understand. And I appreciate the fact-check and the back-handed compliment.
Staying in front or not, he's not getting stops.
ummm, ya I'll just keep to myself here on this one....
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Good God. What sad state some people are on
Tony is a better basketball player than Bonner, but the Spurs have a better average scoring margin when Matt is in the game. It is fact, and cannot be disputed.
Good God. What sad state some people are on
Fact: In our last championship season, Bonner never started a game and didn't even play in the Finals (2.8 MPG in playoffs).
Fact: In 134 total playoff minutes, Matt Bonner has blocked 2 shots.
Fact: In Bonner's last season, most minutes played and starts ever, he finishes #188 in blocks per game.
Fact: Spurs are 10-6 this season without Bonner
Fact: The team that drafted Bonner didn't feel a need to retain him.
Fact: Bonner isn't in the game to be a shot blocker
Fact: We had a guy named Robert Horry, a stretch four who could hit 3s and play solid post defense which is just what Bonner gives us now
Fact: Bonner has the best adjusted +/- on our team
Fact: The team that drafted Kobe didn't feel the need to retain him
Fact: Bonner is an excellent fit in our system and we can win a championship with him starting at the 4/5 with Duncan next to him
Fact: We can win a championship without 2 shot blockers on the floor at same time
Fact: Our biggest need is a defensive wing
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