Reply With Quote
@ this 'trade'
doing this trade you are not guaranteeing a championship this year, but you are guaranteeing a failure for the next few years
I'd rather have 5 matt bonners on the court, than routing for a team, that is build around amare...he just isnt worth it!
he is an ok second or 3rd option for a team, that can set him up and hide him on defense...kind of the hornets with CP3 and Okafor or or or????
Pop? This whole time I thought RC was the GM...
As much as I've bashed on Bonner, I would root for him before Stoudamire. At least Bonner gives effort, works hard and tries to maximizes the minimal talent that he has.
Amare is a self-important, dumb-ass who is not as great as he thinks he is. Has this guy even tried to develop any semblance of a face-up game? Will he ever commit to even trying to defend the pick-n-roll? Hasn't so far. No thanks.
uhhhh does that include ginobili? cuz if it doesn't, WTF? i would gladly ship out hill and blair for a duncan, stoudemire, parker, ginobili core. that's championship #5.
Thank god your not the GM.
Amare came into the league with nothing else but insane athleticism and an explicit need to dunk the ball. He's recovered from microfracture surgery nicely, has one of the smoothest and most automatic jumpers in the game (which he had to work on to improve) for a big man, and has, despite what you say, improved his defense to the point where he's not a liability anymore.
People have this misconception that Amare gets all of his offense from Nash, but the truth is he gets very little from Nash these days. Coach Gentry runs iso plays for Amare several times a game. His face-up game is one of the best in the league for a power forward.
The main knock on Stoudemire is that he loses focus from time to time, and if he's not scoring, he slows down a little.
Glad we didnt do it
I'd consider giving up either but not both for Amare. Problem is that you'd have to give up both and then some because Amare is making about 16 million this year.
I'd consider giving them Blair or Hill and Jefferson for Amare.
I'd have to think a while to decide which one.
As you are a Suns fan, I wont debate your well-informed opinion. However, when he decides to expand his focus on rebounding and defending, let me know.
That said, I still wouldn't trade my young players for him.
He'll never be a great rebounder or defender, you're right. But he's not a bad defender or a bad rebounder, particularly in the playoffs. Say what you want about Amare, but he takes his game to another level in the postseason.
best non-trade of Spurs team history!
would have been a horrible move IMO... those guys are our future.
how does this even make sense? the salaries are not even close.
Pop is the Spurs' President of Basketball Operations...
it's you're, not your.
Xylus, no one is saying he's a bad player, he clearly is not, but he's not a player to build around and doesn't deserve the max or near max deal that he demands.We'd only be getting him for half a season and it's safe to assume the Suns would ask for Ginobili, and would never take on RJ's contract even if the Spurs give them Hill, Blair, cash and 2 1st rounders, thus trading all of our young players and Manu for the minimal chance that a core of Timmy, Tony and Amare lift this team to the championship this season, would not be a wise move.
Hill and Blair may never be much more than good bench players/spot starters -- maybe more -- but I don't like giving them up for half-a year of Stoudamire. Good whiff.
Meanwhile, does Kerr think they can S&T him this summer?
spurs fans love to hate stoudemire but he pretty much explodes in the playoffs. not good enough clutch factor but i still remember him putting up 40 pts, 16 rebs, and four blocks against the spurs. his numbers are beastly but he's not much of a closer. if he was, the suns would have a championship. but if he's really good until the last 2 minutes.
I think if we could have gotten him it would have been nice. We already have a great rebounder and defender, his name is Tim Duncan, Amare would be the outside defender with Tim as his backup, as long as Amare plays good defense, I think it would work well.
Amare has had some monster postseason games, that's true. Many of those against the Spurs. However the bottom line is that his team didn't win. As a player with such gifted skills and as hard as he's worked to become a great offensive player, that doesn't excuse the fact that he's not developed as a rebounder and defender.
I seem to remember how he's been somewhat of a public whiner and complainer. It started during the final years of D'AnToni regime. He was naturally frustrated with losing in the playoffs and felt the team needed to defend better - and rightfully so. Then when the FO replaced D'Antoni with a coach that demanded the team focus on the defensive end, he was one of the first to complain that he wasn't having any fun.
The guy just seems like an enigma and occasional malcontent. I know he's probably frustrated with all the trade talk. Since he and the Suns are still married to one another, I'd be curious to see where this relationship goes from here.
Would have quit being a spurs fan.
They never talk about his stellar defense? No disrespect but the last thing we need on the Spurs is a "scorer" with a suspect head on his shoulders. Spurs are already scoring more points than ever, we need a selfless big who will help with weakside defense and also stretch the floor with an outside shot. Defense is more important than scoring at this point, being a professional, team player great at ude guy who doesn't complain about not being the #1 or #2 option is what we need. Amare doesn't fit the bill in any sense.
If we had dumped our future for Amare, bad Knees (isn't there an issue with his retna), bad 'tude, and the chance he wouldn't resign... that would have been even more disastrous than the RJ deal. At least we can recover next year from the failed experiment that is RJ and get Timmy some help in his final year/s. Turns out the best move the FO made was in NOT making this deal. Amare has "bust" written all over him for this team.
throw in Manu for Dragic while we're at it.
Kerr's an idiot.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
