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are you dumb? the pick will be at least top 58 protected.
I'm anxious to see what RC/Pop have to say about the trade. It'd be nice if they say something about Mahinmi or Hairston.
My guess is they'll just thank Ratliff and just talk about his high character and professionalism. Either that or there will be no quote.
are you dumb? the pick will be at least top 58 protected.
Second round, doubt it's going to be anything special.
blair was not special?
the thing is, a TT/Salmons, Salmons, or TT trade were possible, and we had expiring contracts the Bulls wanted in return for them just it didn't work out
My step son would because he is a red head too.
Or Manu
We lucked out with Blair, I wouldn't say he's a normal second round pick... He doesn't have those injuries and he maybe gets drafted top-15 for all we know... Think about how bad our season would be if Blair didn't fall into our lap (and that is what happened).
I haven't read many of the pages in this thread but do you think the Spurs traded Ratliff because they're going to go after Big Z if he's bought out?
Yeah, we're going to get Big Z alright...
I doubt the Spurs would even think about Big Z. He's too tall. The Spurs will likely suit up Ian for the rest of the season, or they could be waiting for someone else to be waived to fill that spot.
What must Duncan be thinking right now? It's not that Ratliff is that significant a piece, but it's what this trade is symbolic of: the Spurs would rather save pennies on their luxury tax payment than have a center who was supposedly brought in to go against the Lakers in the playoffs. That says it all right there.
If they've given up on the season, why shouldn't the fans? Why should the fans bother spending money to come to games? For what? This isn't some rebuilding team with a bunch of exciting young talent, that's going to grow together and improve. They're sure as not a le contender, so what are they? Some middling, past their prime team with no direction. They look ridiculous out there. No size, no athleticism, no iden y; just a mess.
I know how, but I still can't help but think: how did this go from looking so promising less than six months ago to looking so bleak now? Unbelievable.
Thats fine TD, don't go to games.
Pout and cry at home..
Big Z won't save the season.
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Yeah they tried trading him and no one bit.
You're a joke. You contribute absolutely nothing to this board, you just quote people and all day. A yes man, who goes along with everything the franchise does. That's not what a real fan does.
You're pleased with what's gone on with this team the past two years? They're a s of their former selves and it didn't have to be this way. Yes, the big three are aging, I get it, but they're still a championship caliber core. The problem is the front office has failed them and now they're essentially giving up on the season.
13 pages of discussion for a salary dump. nice.
indeed thats what fans do lol
It's pretty clear folks...the FO felt that even with a trade, this team just wouldn't have it (enough to go deep in the playoffs), and honestly, I can't disagree. So they chose to do nothing and still be a team that doesn't go deep in the playoffs.
All we can hope for as fans now is the lottery (yes, I would rather go for the lottery than enter the playoffs as a #? seed in the West). It's too bad for Tim as another year of his career is crossed off. I think the FO felt they did enough this past offseason, but any knowledgeable fan could see pretty quickly that they just didn't have the right mix of players, skills and size to compete.
Maybe we can find another cameleon or lucky ping pong ball in June.
What Ratliff was brought in to do and what he actually accomplished are two different things. How you people can this much about a guy who played, what? 6 minutes all season? come the on.
Tim Duncan is not an idiot, he said at the beggining of all star week that he did not expect a trade to go through. The fact of the matter is no trade we could have made would have made us that significantly better. We have the talent on the team to win now, we just have to play better.
If you don't want to go to games, then dont. I personally enjoy watching the spurs play basketball. Losses suck, wins are great and the game is always entertaining. IMHO you need a reality check, if your team isn't named the Cavaliers or the Lakers right now then you dont have more then a 5% chance of winning the le. Welcome to the life of 90% of NBA fans. The spurs have been so great to us for so long that as soon as they slip a little you all go slitting your wrists and crying tears of black mascara.
Im gratefull for the championship years, I believe we have the talent to come backthis season and I believe in the FO going forward.... And even if it all falls apart I'll still be here supporting the team.
Put the pom poms down and see reality.
I realistically think we have a 1% chance of winning the le. But thats different then never giving up hope we could turn it around.
I have accepted that we most likely wont win. but im not going to blame everyone in the FO and whine like a about it. come on.
That doesn't make any sense though..
There are a few different goals an NBA team can have..
-Compete for a le and try to make your team as good as possible..
-Compete in the playoffs while developing young talent..
-Rebuild..
The Spurs aren't going to fall into any of these categories..
They aren't going to compete for a le and they didn't even try to make a trade to help the team for this year..
They didn't make a trade to try to get some assets for our expiring contracts, even though it turned out that it could have been possible based on what other teams gave up for some decent players..
They aren't developing ANY young talent right now because they like to play veterans instead..
They aren't rebuilding..
The Spurs are in a very sorry state right now, similar to the Celtics as well..I was reading a Celtics board today, and they were saying the same we're saying..even if you're a die-hard fan and watch every game, it still becomes boring when you have to watch an old-ass team that isn't going to compete for a le..the current Spurs team isn't going to compete for a le, apparently didn't try hard enough to add some talent, and they aren't developing young talent, so there isn't even any potential player development that we can look forward to..they play with no energy, there's no size, the franchise player has to battle in the paint all by himself, the coach has gone crazy with his stupid rotations and we have to watch players that probably wouldn't be in the rotation for most other good teams..
So the game isn't always entertaining, and the Spurs certainly aren't in the same category as "90% of the NBA teams"..
Yes, the Spurs have been great, and we obviously appreciate that, but why should that make them immune to criticism?..
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