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Yeah, probably because Boston has to go thru Cleveland in the East and the Lakers could possibly play them in the Finals...
Jackson, Rivers criticize Cavs' deal
By Dave McMenamin
ESPNLosAngeles.com
LOS ANGELES -- It wasn't quite on the same level as San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich calling for an independent trade committee to be formed in protest of the Pau Gasol deal a couple of seasons ago, but there were two coaches calling for changes to the NBA's trade process Thursday.
Both Lakers coach Phil Jackson and Celtics coach Doc Rivers had strong things to say about Cleveland's acquiring Antawn Jamison by using Zydrunas Ilgauskas as a key piece in the deal, with the eventuality assumed that Ilgauskas will be bought out from his contract by the Wizards and return to the Cavaliers after 30 days.
Jackson declined to comment on the Jamison trade when he was asked about it at Thursday's shoot-around, quipping, "I don't care about that," and dodged two more questions about it in his pregame media session before not being able to bite his tongue any longer.
"They're going to get Ilgauskas back and it's going to be one of those scenarios that we see in the NBA where you ship a player out, you get another player, then your player retires or they pay him off and then he comes back in 30 days," Jackson said. "I don't know what that does for the league. I think that's kind of a weird situation."
Rivers agreed with Jackson, even though the loophole has helped his team in the past.
"I have a problem with that," Rivers said before Thursday's Lakers-Celtics game at Staples Center. "I loved it three years ago when we did it with Gary Payton if you remember, but now I think it sucks. I think it's a terrible deal."
Rivers and the Celtics traded Payton to Atlanta in March 2005 for Antoine Walker and Payton returned to Boston after being waived by the Hawks.
"I actually do have a problem with that though. We did it, and I'm joking, but I do think [it's a problem]. I don't know what you do [maybe] just not allow them to go back to the same team or whatever. ... I do think that will be changed eventually, but I do have a problem with it."
Rivers also suggested the trade deadline be moved up to coincide with All-Star weekend so teams come out of the break with a fresh approach and their team totally in place for the home stretch, rather than face four more days of uncertainty.
"Who am I to suggest changes in the NBA? But why doesn't the trade deadline end over the All-Star break? I don't get why we have to come back for four more days. It's such a good fit over All-Star break. Then when you come out of break, the deadline's passed, all the GMs can go to the All-Star game and get it done. I wish that's the way it happened. It would allow you to start the break with your [entire] team and allow guys to [join their new club] and not miss games like tonight, where we lose Eddie [House], and we're not allowed to use Nate [Robinson]. We wouldn't have that situation. I would love that to change."
Chris Forsberg of ESPNBoston.com contributed to this report. Dave McMenamin covers the Lakers for ESPNLosAngeles.com.
Yeah, probably because Boston has to go thru Cleveland in the East and the Lakers could possibly play them in the Finals...
i have a problem with it too, it's BS that you can just trade a player and get him back for nothing.
Says Phil Jackson and Aaron McKie.
Oh, now Jackson and Rivers don't like it.
Does seem like a ridiculous loophole but them of all coaches have taken advantage of the leagues loopholes, so they should be the last ones complaining about it.
The Gasol trade is good in retrospect. The Cavs gave away nothing and got Jamison.
I have a problem with Phil Jackson commenting on unfair trades.
Well, we know Stern will act on this now. The Lakers and Celtics are upset.
wheres the unfair trade that he was part of?
I think Jackson should STFU, o dont you remember the Gasol deal
what about it?
I actually really like Doc's idea of moving the deadline up to the All-Star break. Could be VERY similiar to the Winter Meetings in baseball where the GM's could all meet in a hotel lobby.
Man the rumors would be fluid as coming out of there though....but could get done a lot QUICKER.
Lakers gave up a player who has turned into a great young center,2 first rounders and 12 millin in cap relief to grizz(which allowed them to get Zach Randolph). Cavs gave up 1 first rounder which will be probably the last pick and a player that is going to be released and sign right back with them. Yeah...
Right. Because there was no controversy surrounding that trade.
Not at all the same thing. McKie was used as filler to make the $ work and just retired after the trade. He did not return to the team and contribute to anything.
LoL at lakers fans trying to make that trade fair. I don't agree with those who think there was some collusion to make the Lakers a powerhouse, but save us the laugh of explaining how fair it was because it wasn't.
Sons, Marc owns his brother now haha but for real though, atleast LA had to give stuff up..Pau is younger & better then Jamison but they got him for a late 1st round pick. Oh well happens, no more excuses for Bron if he fails this season.
Yet you two cant pinpoint what was unfair about that trade.
Hey guys lets trade our rights to Tiago Splitter, who's a top Center prospect in Europe and who may or may not turn into a solid player...plus 2 first rounders and Mason's, Bonner's, Finley's, and Mahinmi's expirings for Chris Bosh. That sounds like a killer deal for Toronto
Also Jamison is about to be 34, and has 3 yrs left including this one on a pretty fat contract. Im sure the amount of teams dying for his services are comparable to the amount that were dying for a 25 yr old Gasol's services
jamison is already 33. it's not like he's a young all star power forward in his prime with many years left in him. cavs are taking a big risk acquiring him and his salary because he's very close in falling off the edge now. when players decline, they don't spend 3-4 years doing it, it usually happens pretty quickly over the span of two years. jamison has definitely declined this year and will decline at a faster rate as he gets older. it's all downhill for him now.
For those ing about the trade, don't worry. I have a time machine and it turns out the first round pick the Wizards are getting will be a bigger steal than Manu Ginobilli. The deal is fair, like the Gasol trade, nothing to see here.
The Gasol deal and the Kobe rape case never happened.
I took this out from Phil Jackson's mouth, don't blame me. That was where Aaron McKie came in. Now I only expect to see Ilgauskas ride the pine on the Cavs bench unless there are injuries. He deserves to win a ring with the Cavs."They're going to get Ilgauskas back and it's going to be one of those scenarios that we see in the NBA where you ship a player out, you get another player, then your player retires or they pay him off and then he comes back in 30 days," Jackson said. "I don't know what that does for the league. I think that's kind of a weird situation."
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