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  1. #26
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    Ill put Bron before Kobe cuz he has to do EVERYTHING for his team to be compe ve in a game..I would really like seeing CLE play a contender without Bron. Snaq would have to go into 2001 mode for them to even be in the game. Only teams that can win pretty consistently without their #1 option is LA, Boston, & Denver.

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    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
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    who he is better than right NOW?
    You put Chris Paul ahead of him. If we are talking right now, like this moment, a healthy Durant would be higher on my list than a hurt CP3.

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    I agree. But he can be better than most NBA players and still not be above a tier 3.
    You are just harping on one detail here.

    Correction: He is better than Gasol and CP3 and everyone else below them.

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    You put Chris Paul ahead of him. If we are talking right now, like this moment, a healthy Durant would be higher on my list than a hurt CP3.
    Obviously this list assumes everyone healthy. Otherwise I wouldnt have even had Kobe or CP3 there in the first place.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    First Tier::- Lebron, Kobe, (Those are the only 2 superstars who people debate about being equal or better than Michael Jordan.
    According to some rocketfan, Clyde would be as good as Kobe if he was around now.

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    You are just harping on one detail here.

    Correction: He is better than Gasol and CP3 and everyone else below them.
    What detail?

    My point is that Durant is a great scorer and has unlimited potential, but TODAY he is not better than a tier 3 player because his all-around game has yet to be developed. He doesnt play defense, he doesn't make plays for teammates at a high level. He's a really good scorer who can rebound. He's great. But not as great as the others.

    I'm not saying he cant improve on these areas, Melo was basically Durant 2 years ago and has made tremendous strides in his all-around game. But Kevin still has to do that. How can you seriously say he's a better player than Chris Paul?

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    I can and will say that.

    Has Dirk's overall game ever developed? Can howard involve his teammates?

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    What detail?

    My point is that Durant is a great scorer and has unlimited potential, but TODAY he is not better than a tier 3 player because his all-around game has yet to be developed. He doesnt play defense, he doesn't make plays for teammates at a high level. He's a really good scorer who can rebound. He's great. But not as great as the others.

    I'm not saying he cant improve on these areas, Melo was basically Durant 2 years ago and has made tremendous strides in his all-around game. But Kevin still has to do that. How can you seriously say he's a better player than Chris Paul?

    Sorry...but Durant taking this OKC team to the playoffs says EVERYTHING about his ability to lead a team. He is a ing superstar at 21 mother ers. Deal with it...

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    I can and will say that.

    Has Dirk's overall game ever developed? Can howard involve his teammates?
    Ever developed?

    The guy has been a ing freak THIS year....I don't give a if his game developed.

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    Can howard involve his teammates?
    Can Howard's teammates PLEASE involve him for christ sakes.

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    Sorry...but Durant taking this OKC team to the playoffs says EVERYTHING about his ability to lead a team. He is a ing superstar at 21 mother ers. Deal with it...
    When did I say otherwise?

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    I'm using them as an analogy to picc84 saying Durant's all around game hasn't developed.

    Once he develops his all around game he will be in Tier 1, for now though I guess he will have to settle for Tier 2.

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    Durant definitely is a ridiculous talent especially at his age..Holy I dont even wanna imagione how good he'll be in 3-4 years..Imagine if he also adds some muscle, damn love that dude's game. OKC will be a very scary team in a few years, especially if they add a Big that can post up & block shots.

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    I can and will say that.

    Has Dirk's overall game ever developed? Can howard involve his teammates?
    Both of them have more complete game's than Durant. Especially Howard. Durant scores and boards. Thats it.

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    Dirk scores and boards. Thats it.
    Fixed.

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    Durant definitely is a ridiculous talent especially at his age..Holy I dont even wanna imagione how good he'll be in 3-4 years..Imagine if he also adds some muscle, damn love that dude's game. OKC will be a very scary team in a few years, especially if they add a Big that can post up & block shots.
    Yep J. My biggest regret of last year was not putting BIG $$$ on OKC on O/U wins for the season. It was at 32. My line of thinknig was with Durants stature....he could easily get hurt and if that happens OKC is ed. So I layed off.....

    ugh....

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    Obviously this list assumes everyone healthy. Otherwise I wouldnt have even had Kobe or CP3 there in the first place.
    Touché

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    God Tier

    LeBron

    High Team

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    Paul
    Howard
    Anthony

    Upper Tier
    Dirk
    Durant
    Duncan
    Williams
    Bosh

    Tier

    Bryant

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    No particular order within tiers.

    1. Lebron
    2. Kobe, Wade
    3. Melo, CP3, Dirk, Howard
    4. Durant, Gasol, Deron, Roy, Bosh, Duncan

    Agree/disagree.
    1. LeBron
    2. Wade, Melo
    3. Howard, CP3, Durant, Gasol
    4. Bryant, Dirk, Bosh
    5. Duncan, Roy
    6. Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Derrick Rose

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    LMAO @ everyone ranking Dwight Howard so high. guy is an average straight man defender, and is very mediocre offensively. his game revolves around help defense, rebounds, and put-backs. anyone that puts him over guys like Durant, Dirk, Wade, CP3 is nuts. I love D-12, but he has become the most overrated player in the NBA.

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    Truth has been spoken

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    Has Dirk's overall game ever developed?
    How has it not? He came into the league as a goofier version of Peja mutha in Stojokovic.

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    How has it not? He came into the league as a goofier version of Peja mutha in Stojokovic.
    Don't trash Peja by comparing him to that 7-foot gestapo.

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    Don't trash Peja by comparing him to that 7-foot gestapo.


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    1- LeBron/Kobe/Wade

    2- Deron/Howard/Dirk/Duncan/Melo

    3- CP3/Durant/Roy

    4- Bosh/Pierce/Gasol

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