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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Repercussions: When Good GMs Do Nothing
    by Jesse Blanchard
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    Throughout the Tim Duncan era the Spurs have operated on a certain stonecutters credo. Ironically, they now operate between a rock and a hard place. With a broken chisel.

    The rock? Richard Jefferson’s burdensome contract. The hard place? The NBA Salary Cap. In the short term, there will be those who are disappointed that the Spurs didn’t make a move based off what it represents this season.

    Heading into the week I argued that the Spurs needed to make a trade, if only to exchange their expiring contracts for similar role players who would become assets next season. Without an influx of talent at this deadline, the Spurs could find themselves in a worse position next year.

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    The Spurs FO did try to make trades; unfortunately there just wasn't any market for them.

    As for the future; as long as Ginobili is healthy hopefully that means we'll resign him since I can't think of any player that could fill his void and $$$ for the Spurs.

    It'll be interesting to see how the Spurs repsonds this offseason but that really depends on this season's performance. However with the upcoming CBA it only complicates things.

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    Has Manu confirmed whether or not he's going to play in the World's this summer?

    I think his decision there will determine his future contract.

    Although, due to the Spur's cap situation, Manu seems to have the upper-hand. It almost seems as if the Spurs "have to" re-sign Manu no matter the cost or NT implications.

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    If spurs have short season such as no playoffs or out in 1st round, (which is very likely) Manu might want to play for argentina. I don't see why not, especially since Spurs have not resigned him yet.

    if spurs fail, I will hope for this just to see spurstalk reaction

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    Who would have guessed last summer, in the rosy glow of bringing in Big and Mcdidn't, that by Feb. everyone would be ready to throw them out with the bathwater as bad acquisitions.

    And there would be no market for them in a trade with anyone in the league.

    So we're gonna go with the ones we brought to the dance and see if they can possilby live up to the summer hype.

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    Allanon:

    Good thoughts. You're right on the money but I think Manu's level will keep improving and he will have the upper ground when negotiating with the Spurs and he will retire from NT AFTER playing in Turkey...

    my 50 cents...

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    What a re ed le.

    I would love to see the evidence they did "nothing"

    Do they have the phone logs of the GM's office that they made none or recieved none?

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    What a re ed le.

    I would love to see the evidence they did "nothing"

    Do they have the phone logs of the GM's office that they made none or recieved none?
    So maybe the le should be "When bad GMs try to do something, but don't get anything done anyway."

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    If spurs have short season such as no playoffs or out in 1st round, (which is very likely) Manu might want to play for argentina. I don't see why not, especially since Spurs have not resigned him yet.

    I don't see him playing for NT. He won't get a big contract if he is injured again.

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    I don't think Manu is going to get a big contract regardless. His injury history is bad enough, and teams will probably be bidding according to what they think will be the new max contract amounts and lengths for all but the most desirable free agents.

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    I don't think Manu is going to get a big contract regardless. His injury history is bad enough, and teams will probably be bidding according to what they think will be the new max contract amounts and lengths for all but the most desirable free agents.
    He's worth the MLE to a very good team. Off the bench for a LAL or Cleveland? Dynamite.

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    He's worth the MLE to a very good team. Off the bench for a LAL or Cleveland? Dynamite.
    Exactly. That's an average salary. Not big. I doubt he gets the full number of years either.

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    At this point, I don't know what would be more appealing to Manu. Playing for the Spurs at a little above the MLE, or playing for a contender for the MLE. Things have really changed quickly.

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    Manu is worth more than the MLE and he will get more. Too many teams with too much cap space for him not to.

    It may not be for 5-6 years but for 3 years for sure.

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    what's going on with Nando de Colo? will he be worth a roster spot next season?

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    Enough already!

    Damn depressing articles.

    But it is what it is. Tank the rest of the season. Go for the highest possible draft pick(s) you can.

    If others don't want to deal with the Spurs or come here by decision....F'um.

    Go get what you need the best way you can and ram another le straight up their rears.

    Just quit trying this year. The team will be caught in no man's land next season (and no telling for how long) if it makes it to the playoffs this year.

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    What a re ed le.

    I would love to see the evidence they did "nothing"

    Do they have the phone logs of the GM's office that they made none or recieved none?
    That "evidence" doesn't matter. Who gives a about phone logs?

    At the end of the day, "the question is did you get anything done to improve the talent level of the roster?" o! The answer is no. That's all that matters.

    For once, stop apologizing for the FO.

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    Without an influx of talent at this deadline, the Spurs could find themselves in a worse position next year.
    This is EXACTLY the reason why it was important for the Spurs to have flipped those expiring contracts at the deadline - to drastically raise the talent level of the roster and accelerate the reload/rebuild.
    The Spurs have a first round pick, but given their financial situation there is a large possibility they opt to go with their usual draft and stash.
    Disagree. The Spurs are in no position to draft-n-stash. They need an infusion of talent now. They need to pick the best player and groom him accordingly.
    And even if they keep their pick, there’s only so many times you can find a George Hill or DeJuan Blair that can contribute right away, the odds are against us.
    Doesn't matter. Keep the pick. Unless they can go on some sort of tremendous winning streak and turn their season around, the Spurs may very well find themselves in the NBA Draft Lottery. Given the age and declining skills on this roster, the Spurs need to begin the process of stockpiling as many young, cheap, assets as they can.

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    Disagree. The Spurs are in no position to draft-n-stash. They need an infusion of talent now. They need to pick the best player and groom him accordingly.

    Doesn't matter. Keep the pick. Given the age and declining skills on this roster, the Spurs need to begin the process of stockpiling as many young, cheap, assets as they can.
    I'd worry about this year's draft a lot.

    Would anyone be that shocked if Holt, after the disaster of this season, went full Robert Sarver?

    I'm talking no MLE (no Splitter), but more importantly the need for a cash infusion. They get that by selling this year's first for $3 million. Then in order to cut down on a salary they pull a Sarver-Kurt Thomas special. In order to get out of what remains on Antonio McDyess they give him up plus a future first for a conditional second.

    BOOM

    Dynasty over. Rebuilding over. Full On Garbage mode for years, no draft picks, no nothing.

    It's a nightmare scenario . . . but it could happen.

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    Oh, I think they will spend the MLE - but they might let Manu go. They'll probably go back to sub-tax level spending, but full on slash and burn doesn't seem terribly likely.

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    I'd worry about this year's draft a lot.

    Would anyone be that shocked if Holt, after the disaster of this season, went full Robert Sarver?

    I'm talking no MLE (no Splitter), but more importantly the need for a cash infusion. They get that by selling this year's first for $3 million. Then in order to cut down on a salary they pull a Sarver-Kurt Thomas special. In order to get out of what remains on Antonio McDyess they give him up plus a future first for a conditional second.

    BOOM

    Dynasty over. Rebuilding over. Full On Garbage mode for years, no draft picks, no nothing.

    It's a nightmare scenario . . . but it could happen.
    It's possible, but I really doubt it. All the moves last summer confined increased spending to this season and next. They tried to reload for the short term without sacrificing long term assets.

    If they're going to reduce expenses, I'd bet they accomplish that by trading Parker for one or more smaller pieces. When you look at all the teams with cap space, some or most of them are going to fail to get the elite player they desire. So you trade into their cap space and get a good young player on a rookie contract and a giant trade exception.

    You could see that happening with New York. They fail to get LeBron,Wade, or Bosh and settle for trying to recreate the Suns by signing Amare and Joe Johnson. They get Amare, but Atlanta antes up and keeps JJ. Now they trade for Parker to shift that cap space down the road and go after Melo in 2011.

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    Manu brings ppl to the seats. That is very valuable. Oh, he will get paid. Most likely elsewhere.

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    I'm not saying it will happen, but I would put it at a small enough percentage that I wouldn't faint when I heard the news.

    Besides . . . .

    This summer, they're already at the full cap without Manu or the MLE (Splitter). That's filling the roster with TD, TP, RJ, Dice, Hill, Blair, and picking up Hairston's minimum.

    7 players, 5 more active roster spots to fill +1 inactive, and doing anything like re-signing Manu or the MLE gets them closer to the tax. , they could be over the tax just by re-signing Manu if the cap drops enough.

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    Enough already!

    Damn depressing articles.

    But it is what it is. Tank the rest of the season. Go for the highest possible draft pick(s) you can.

    If others don't want to deal with the Spurs or come here by decision....F'um.

    Go get what you need the best way you can and ram another le straight up their rears.

    Just quit trying this year. The team will be caught in no man's land next season (and no telling for how long) if it makes it to the playoffs this year.
    Spurs would probably trade down with a higher pick, and try to draft and stash to save money.

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    Spurs are going to have to rebuild at some point, the sooner we start the better for everyone involved

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