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    Nash is not declining due to old age. He is having problems with his spine again, ever since that abdominal injury made it flare up. This happens at least once every year, where his spinal problem flares up and he can't shoot worth a lick.

    I don't know where everyone's been, or why no one's aware of this.

    Imagine what his career shooting percentages would be like if he didn't have a broken spine. He's close to the best FT% in NBA history, anyway.

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    Tell that to Magic Johnson.

    Also, the all-time assists leader, John Stockton took two teams to the Finals.

    Since 1990, the modern era of basketball, no PG like Nash or Stockton has WON the finals. If making the finals and losing was the objective, then Stockton was a stud!

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    Nash is not declining due to old age. He is having problems with his spine again, ever since that abdominal injury made it flare up. This happens at least once every year, where his spinal problem flares up and he can't shoot worth a lick.

    I don't know where everyone's been, or why no one's aware of this.

    Imagine what his career shooting percentages would be like if he didn't have a broken spine. He's close to the best FT% in NBA history, anyway.

    Here's the translation for this:

    , my pussy hurts watching the Suns succeed without Nash.

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    Nash is nothing like Stockton.

    Stockton played D, was tough, set dirty screens..basically not a raging vagina like Nash.

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    Nash is nothing like Stockton.

    Stockton played D, was tough, set dirty screens..basically not a raging vagina like Nash.

    Hey, it's not a vagina problem, just a back problem .

    It's pretty funny that AZC comes out with an injury excuse every single time Nash plays horribly, as if a "healthy" Nash is incapable of playing poorly.

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    Is that not fun or something? Point guards who rack up assists never succeed in the playoffs.
    Maybe Nash will have a season ending injury and then we'll see if Dragic can get them to the playoffs... You'll just have to live with the fact that Nash is the best guard on the team and probably second best player at worst behind Amare.

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    Maybe Nash will have a season ending injury and then we'll see if Dragic can get them to the playoffs... You'll just have to live with the fact that Nash is the best guard on the team and probably second best player at worst behind Amare.

    If making the playoffs and losing in the 1st round was something that mattered then this comment would be relevant. You'll just have to live with the fact your favorite player is going to be remembered as a loser who was getting out performed by his backup.


    PS - Are you still under some false impression that Nash took them to the playoffs last year?

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    Why the hate for Nash? He's in a slump... I agree with the poster who said that in the playoffs you'd want the ball in Nash's hands. He's an assassin in the clutch. It's not news that he's a defensive liability but he'll be the one giving you chances to advance.

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    Why the hate for Nash? He's in a slump... I agree with the poster who said that in the playoffs you'd want the ball in Nash's hands. He's an assassin in the clutch. It's not news that he's a defensive liability but he'll be the one giving you chances to advance.

    Wow, Spurfan telling someone how deadly Nash is in the playoffs. That's a hoot.

    And he'll give you the chance to advance to the conference finals, that's it. If you wanna go any further, better get a PG with defense.

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    Yeah a lot of teams don't win with great PG's. Usually teams will have a great wing man or post player to lead them (or a combination of the two).

    If you look at all the recent NBA champions the PG was not the best player on the team (Please don't say Pistons of 04's best player was a PG because that is not true it was a team effort.)

    2009- Lakers (Kobe/Gasol)

    Derek Fisher LAST YEAR (this year he sucks) was a solid defender, knock down shooter, and he got the ball to his teammates in the right places.

    2008-Boston (Pierce/Garnett/Ray Allen)

    Rajon Rondo was not the best on that team, but he slashed into the paint and either scored, or found teammates.

    2007-San Antonio (Duncan/Ginobili/Parker)

    Tony Parker is good but IMO he is the 3rd best player on the Spurs.

    2006-Miami (D Wade/Shaq)

    Who was the PG for that team? J Will and Payton? Proves my point.

    2005-San Antonio (Read 2007)

    2004-Detroit (Chauncey, Rip, Sheed, Ben)

    Chauncey may have one Finals MVP but we just had a solid team. We did not have a superstar PG by any means.

    2003-San Antonio (Read 2007)

    2000-2002-3 Peat Lakers (Kobe/Shaq)

    Yeah PG matters a lot on a championship team, but usually he isn't the best player on the court for the champs.

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    Yeah a lot of teams don't win with great PG's. Usually teams will have a great wing man or post player to lead them (or a combination of the two).

    If you look at all the recent NBA champions the PG was not the best player on the team (Please don't say Pistons of 04's best player was a PG because that is not true it was a team effort.)

    2009- Lakers (Kobe/Gasol)

    Derek Fisher LAST YEAR (this year he sucks) was a solid defender, knock down shooter, and he got the ball to his teammates in the right places.

    2008-Boston (Pierce/Garnett/Ray Allen)

    Rajon Rondo was not the best on that team, but he slashed into the paint and either scored, or found teammates.

    2007-San Antonio (Duncan/Ginobili/Parker)

    Tony Parker is good but IMO he is the 3rd best player on the Spurs.

    2006-Miami (D Wade/Shaq)

    Who was the PG for that team? J Will and Payton? Proves my point.

    2005-San Antonio (Read 2007)

    2004-Detroit (Chauncey, Rip, Sheed, Ben)

    Chauncey may have one Finals MVP but we just had a solid team. We did not have a superstar PG by any means.

    2003-San Antonio (Read 2007)

    2000-2002-3 Peat Lakers (Kobe/Shaq)

    Yeah PG matters a lot on a championship team, but usually he isn't the best player on the court for the champs.
    Go back even further.

    1999 - Avery Johnson
    1996-1998 - Ron Harper
    1994-1995 - Kenny Smith/Sam Cassell
    1991-1993 - John Paxson/B.J. Armstrong

    Having a PG who dominates the ball and averages 9+ assists per game is in fact DETRIMENTAL to a team winning a championship. Offenses run through the PG who pounds the ball too much always fail in the 4th quarter.

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    Wow, Spurfan telling someone how deadly Nash is in the playoffs. That's a hoot.

    And he'll give you the chance to advance to the conference finals, that's it. If you wanna go any further, better get a PG with defense.
    Well, the way teams are now stacked in the WEST I doubt he even makes it in WCF, but that won't solely be based on him, it's Kerr's fault.

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    Well, the way teams are now stacked in the WEST I doubt he even makes it in WCF, but that won't solely be based on him, it's Kerr's fault.

    I never said he would. He's never made the finals and never will because of how he plays.

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    Here's the translation for this:

    , my pussy hurts watching the Suns succeed without Nash.
    Umm, I am not a Nash fan. I was just stating facts. I'm the one who's been hyping Dragic since the night he was drafted, as you can see in this thread: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99995 The Spurs fans were all laughing at me...

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    Umm, I am not a Nash fan. I was just stating facts. I'm the one who's been hyping Dragic since the night he was drafted, as you can see in this thread: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99995 The Spurs fans were all laughing at me...

    +1


    These alleged "back injuries" EVERY SINGLE TIME nash has a bad shooting stretch are annoying. Idk why AZCentral is incapable of just honestly reporting Nash sucked last night.

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    I never said he would. He's never made the finals and never will because of how he plays.
    Can you rank for us who you think s up PHX. Why the suns won't win squat.
    Sarver, Kerr, Nash, Amare, Arizona...

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    Can you rank for us who you think s up PHX. Why the suns won't win squat.
    Sarver, Kerr, Nash, Amare, Arizona...

    This year, they aren't winning cause they suck.


    5 years from now, when they still suck and are still rebuilding when they could be good, it'll be because of Nash.

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    Can you rank for us who you think s up PHX. Why the suns won't win squat.
    Sarver, Kerr, Nash, Amare, Arizona...
    I blame Richard Dumas.

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    This year, they aren't winning cause they suck.


    5 years from now, when they still suck and are still rebuilding when they could be good, it'll be because of Nash.
    Can you rank the reasons of why they suck?
    Sarver, Kerr, Nash, Amaré, Arizona...?

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    Can you rank the reasons of why they suck?
    Sarver, Kerr, Nash, Amaré, Arizona...?

    Sarver
    D'antoni
    Kerr
    Bryan Colangelo

    In that order. You can flip Colangelo and Kerr around, Sarver and D'antoni are the prime culprits.

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    Sarver
    D'antoni
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    Bryan Colangelo
    Thanks, now you can live that little canadian alone

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    Thanks, now you can live that little canadian alone

    It's nowhere near that simple. There's nothing that can be done about the fact they suck now, how good they are 3-5 years down the road should be the bigger concern. Continuously playing "Nashketball" and steadily becoming a worse and worse team while never rebuilding because the fans love Stevie Wonder so much isn't gonna do .

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    It's nowhere near that simple. There's nothing that can be done about the fact they suck now, how good they are 3-5 years down the road should be the bigger concern. Continuously playing "Nashketball" and steadily becoming a worse and worse team while never rebuilding because the fans love Stevie Wonder so much isn't gonna do .
    When is Nash's contract up? And what do you think Kerr will do to rebuild when Amaré leaves this summer?

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    When is Nash's contract up? And what do you think Kerr will do to rebuild when Amaré leaves this summer?

    They gave Nash a contract extension last summer, first time in league history a team that missed the playoffs gives a 35+ year old player a contract extension the following off season. Just goes to show how backwards everyone thinks because of Nash.

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    They gave Nash a contract extension last summer, first time in league history a team that missed the playoffs gives a 35+ year old player a contract extension the following off season. Just goes to show how backwards everyone thinks because of Nash.
    Was he extended through 2012? I'm lazy to look up when his contract is up

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