Doesn't this ever get old to some of you????
So lets say Pop switched teams with Nate McMillan. Does anyone actually think that Pop could beat the Spurs with the team Nate McMillan brought to S.A. and won without Roy?
Pop has been out coached by Nate twice this year. Vinny Del Negro twice. In fact, Pop was so bad he help the Bulls see what a really bad coach looked like and they kept Del Negro.
Sloan 4 times.
Eddie Jordan. Who the f*@#) loses to Eddie Jordan.
Bottom line is this is a dumb gutless team.
If Pop would take Bonner sorry ass out of the rotation. TP wouldn't have to freeze his sorry ass out of the offense. Passing the ball to Bonner is just wasting time on the shot clock that we could be using getting a good shot for one of our other real NBA players.
Playing Bonner is one of the many errors Pop is dooming the Spurs with.
It's not Pop. The guy has won 4 championships. He knows more than us put together.
TP has been injured all season. TD don't seem well. Manu is getting his groove just about at this point of the season. RJ is not going anywhere. Dice is a "second half season player". I mean. The guy has all these problems to solve. Unexpected problems. It's not his fault the team is at half tank. Altough I do believe that it can be fixed and get to the top.
This is my main criticism of Pop: he's been too quick to flinch.
The Spurs have been trying to integrate several new players into the rotation. McDyess, RJ, Blair, Bogans, and Hill (while not new, his role has changed). All the players have had their ups and downs. Add Tony's injuries and Manu's slow start, and you can understand why the Spurs have been so inconsistent.
In retrospect, perhaps Pop should have tolerated some more losses and temporary confidence problems for the new guys. More predictability might have been better. Maybe if he hadn't felt the need to tinker so much from the beginning, the team would be surging right now.
How is he not at least partially responsible for them not gelling when he is the one who is supposed to work out rotations and see who plays well with whom? How is he not at least partly responsible for the make-up of the team when he had a hand in the personnel decisions?
I have an answer for you 'J.T.' you Popologist pussy cuckold!!!!
1.the foundations of the championship Spurs teams were Defense and a tall defensive interior presence. this forula won us 4 les. then suddenly, POP(he who is the final word in all team decisions) suddenly and randomly decided to abandon both of those trademark principles-opting for small ball and giving tim duncan NO help inside.
2. in the last couple seasons we have seen a guy who has no buisness being anything other than the team victory cigar being put as our STARTING CENTER. matt bonner is the embodiment of everything that has been wrong with this team the last 2 seasons-undersized, slow, no athleticism, flatfooted, no defense...we have seen drew gooden, theo ratliff, ian mahinmi, etc...benched and cast off for nothing, while eevn now, with mcdyess and blair, matt bonner is STILL our starting center. that has been a HUGE part of this teams struggles the last few seasons, and thats 100% on Pop.
3. benching Hill in favor of jaque vaughn 2nd half of last season.
4. saying 'these playoffs arent for him.' (hill) and watching as ing JJ BAREA rapes our asses in the playoffs, when every person on earth knew Hill should have been playing -except Pop.
5. aquiring a servicable center-gooden- then benching him most of the time, and perma benching him vs. dallas, in favor of his love Bonner, who was predictably raped and provided NOTHING but a warm body vs. dallas.
6. dumping young, athletic potential talent like Hairston and PMB so that he could keep a worthless 37yr old backup pg on the team.
7. failing to EVER develop ian mahinmi-the exact kind of player or team has needed so bad the last 2-3 seasons, drafting him 5 years ago to fill that exact need, then making the fans watch him sit on the bench permanently so that matt bonner can continue to get his minutes. ANY OTHER COACH would have worked him in and developed him already. there is NO RATIONAL EXPLANATION for the mahinmi situation. pop fails.
8. for giving tim duncan ZERO HELP in th paint during his last good years, by benching and dumping off potential post players so that matt bonner can be our 'center'.
9. for going out and signing theo ratliff to help shore up our obvious need for post defense and size, giving him only a few minutes here and there(during which he did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do), then inexplicably permanently benching him, then dumping him off FOR NOTHING to another team (where naturally, he immediately gets minutes and, predictably, does exactly what hes supposed to do, which is what the spurs need so bad-and we just dumped him for free). like the mahinmi situation there is NO RATIONAL EXPLANATION for the theo ratliff ing debacle. no other coach would have done this.
10. for stubbornly insisting on ridiculous tiny lineups featuring either one big (duncan) or no bigs at all(6-7 blair) as center surrounded by FOUR GUARDS, often including the fan-favorite 'finley-at-the-four', regardless of matchups, timing, or the fact that were immediately start getting pummeled wheneverthis ing re ed lineup occurs.
11. the foundations of the championships were defense and tall defensive interior presence. Pop decided to change all that and abandon both defense and tall players. the painfully predictable results have been on display for years for every single person besides pop to marvel at in disgust. all on pop.
theres probably tons of other things but im getting tired of typing.
HOW DO THE POPOLOGISTS REFUTE THIS??
A coach has one of two responsibilities
1) Compete effectively, building a team to peak in the playoffs in the current season, in an effort to win it all.
2) If 1) isn't practical, to develop a team internally so that the team can compete in future seasons.
Popovich's rotations and decisions indicate he's lost track of this dual responsibility. At that point, you have to look at finding someone else. Sucks, but hey, get over it. Just like Ginobili shouldn't get a last huge contract. Yeah, he's been getting better almost all season, but he's getting older, and has definite injury issues... Similarly we will have to look at Parker this summer, especially if he plays for the FNT with his planar fascitis needing a long rest time...
poop....you hit the nail right on the head...
how can pop KEEP his job this long is what we should all be asking...
ha, none of you Popologist cowards can challenge me.
He is partly responsible, I never said he wasn't. He has had a poor season, but ultimately it comes down to the players' performance on the court, and they have been decidedly average.
I say again - how is replacing Pop with Generic Coach X going to improve the situation?
jeff has been a bust, and thats mostly not pops fault.
but how does that explain any of my points outlined above? how many 'generic coach x's' would have done all the boneheaded things pop has done the last few years?
"I have four rings, *aggot"
"Boggins sets the defensive tone, look at how he fouls everybody. He is a bulldog"
I do not like aj but he could not do worse then pop
I don't want Pop fired, but just for fun:
How to argue on Spurstalk:
A: His rotations this year don't make any sense! He's responsible for who's in the game!
B: 4 rings
A: He benched Hill and declared that he wasn't ready and the 'playoffs weren't for him'. What the ?
B: 4 rings
A: He benched Bruce Bowen so the Spurs could have more offense! Now he's starting Bogans saying he's a defensive stopper like Bruce! WTF?
B: 4 rings
A: He blew game 1 against the Lakers in 08! Up by 20, Bruce locking down Kobe, he takes him out halfway through the 3rd and straight up lost the game with that one move! That was insane!
B: 4 rings
A: He cost us with smallball against the Mavs in 06! He trotted NVE out there who was a huge disaster! He benched Nazr because of a garbage time 3 against the Kings!
B: 4 rings
A: He refused to guard the inbounder in game 5 against the Lakers in 04! Didn't he ever watch any game ever like the Duke classic to learn to guard the inbounder!
B: 4 rings
A: Name how many series the Spurs have won as underdog with Pop, compare that to how many they lost as a favorite?
B: 4 rings
A: 4 rings 4 rings! Is that all you have to say? Can't you intelligently argue on the merits Pop's achievements and current abilities as head coach within the context of having the greatest PF of all time without saying 4 rings?
B: No. 4 rings.
A: man, I bet you think KC Jones is a hall of famer too!
B: Who the is KC Jones? 4 rings.
A: He had a 5-year span as coach of the Celtics that could arguably match anything Pop's ever done. 2 les, 2 finals losses to the showtime Lakers, ECF loss. No one ever talks about him being one of the greatest of all time now do they?
B: 4 rings.
I agree. I remember the days before Pop with Hill, Tark, Lucas among others putting up great regular seasons only to fall disappointingly short. Pop came along implemented his method and stuck to his guns. His approach has produced pretty forgettable regular seasons but 4 championships, a dynasty and an iden y that all in this community are proud of. Did he have help absolutely, but he also has played a big part. I wander if the fans of Utah have called for Sloan's head as quickly we call for Pop.
I would actually say it is.
I'm a real fan and you're not.
Yes I am.
No, you're not
Yes I am...
Thanks for your enlightening point of view, very original.
facts are facts. and this is a fact.
PJ leaving could very well just be a coincidence.
The Spurs haven't won a le since Matt Bonner entered the rotation.
Maybe he's to blame and not PJ leaving.
Or some other coincidence.
j.t.i did. Shortly after my fourth cocaine od. I realized why do coke when ecstasy costs 1/4th as much and keeps you ed up like 500 times longer.
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