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it aint gonna happen...Big Z is the MVP of teh Cavs....Lebron needs him. Stern needs him. He'll be in a Cavs uniform
Per. Yahoo! sports columnist on twitter-"Mark Heisler of LA Times is reporting that NBA has informed other teams that it won't let Z return to Cavs after a buyout."
A reason for this is the NBA is probing if their was a pre-arranged deal to allow Z to come back to Cavs,some GM's say there was.
"Folks asking if NBA can stop Z return to Cavs: If league can show evidence of a pre-arranged deal, yes, it can. Real hard to prove, though."
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it aint gonna happen...Big Z is the MVP of teh Cavs....Lebron needs him. Stern needs him. He'll be in a Cavs uniform
The need to permanently fix the loophole...can't wait to see how this plays out.
Why can't the Cavs do what every other team in the NBA has done? Stern just helping the Lakers like he's supossed to do.
They need to change the rule so if you trade a player he can't come back till next season
The NBA has to prove there was a pre-arranged deal in place to buy Z out and have him return to Cleveland. That's the only way they can keep him from coming back. And I seriously doubt they can prove any such thing. If the NBA thought the deal was shady they could have blocked it in the first place.
The deal itself wasn't shady.
The buying out a player then signing him in 30 days is shady and is a dumb loophole that can't be officially be fixed until the next CBA. And the NBA should do everything in their power to prevent that from happening.
The Cavs could just be the bigger person here and not unofficially 'cheat' by not re-signing Big Z.
Problem solved. All it takes is a bit of class. Which is something Cleveland/Lebron hasn't shown much of lately.
Waiting until the next CBA would have been apporpriate. Big Z deserves to retire playing as a Cav, with or without a ring.
Mavs might get him now if he is bought out
obviously not when his own team traded him away.
Knowing that he will be bought out for lux tax relief because of his 75% paid contract?
I hate these kind of deals, but good luck proving anything. I hope this gets addressed in the next CBA.
The NBA needs to change this rule, bottomline.
Then they shouldn't have traded him.
The LAKERS COULD HAVE traded Fisher and re-signed him after buyout. Instead? They refused to move his expiring because they're actually "loyal" to their players and don't need bull loopholes to compete.
my statement was based on whether he deserved to stay or not...its too bad his own team didnt think so. Thats loyalty for you. If he comes back then good for the Cavs and him...but thats a risk they took.
Yup. Just another classless move by the Spurs a couple years ago when they did just that.
Ok, so says Aaron McKie and the Laker fan.
You've got to be kidding, right? They'd be idiots to not take advantage of the loophole.
Pre-arranged or not, this is stupid. Lindsey Hunter was traded in the 2003-04 season in the Rasheed Wallace deal and was waived, coming back to the Pistons. It was widely known that he would not stay with the Celtics, he flew to take his physcial in Boston and immediately flew to his home in the Detroit suburbs. The Pistons would have him back. They started reporting that the day after the trade.
Z has been with the Cavs since 1996. To stop him from returning would be a random cracking of the whip. This stuff happens all the time. I point to the Lakers waiving Brian Shaw to avoid the luxury tax, and then re-signing him as another example. They are doing this only because they are about to negotiate a new labor agreement and they want to get rid of these types of transactions where a team trades cap-relief and then the player is waived, making it look like the team gave up nothing to get an All-Star-calibur player.
But when they started manuevering salary--really in 2000--they had a bunch of guys languishing on the bench of horrible teams, pissed off because they knew they were playing out the string. I point to Tim Hardaway with Denver as one example.
No they would be a classy organization that retains some dignity by not unofficially cheating and re-signing a player they traded 30 days prior.
Cavs had the best record in the league and beat the defending champs twice before the trade. Are they not confident they can win the East?
No, they would be a stupid organization for not taking advantage of a loophole that has been taken advantage of by other teams for years now. Yeah, the loophole is sketchy and should be closed. But it would be flat-out dumb for the Cavaliers not to bring back Z if they have a chance, and being dumb is no way to be classy.No they would be a classy organization that retains some dignity by not unofficially cheating and re-signing a player they traded 30 days prior.
They need Z to protect Shaq against Orlando and they need him if it comes to cases against the Lake Show. He defends Gasol better than any of the other big men on this team.Cavs had the best record in the league and beat the defending champs twice before the trade. Are they not confident they can win the East?
no Z... no ring
I don't care if the Cavs benefit this time, because other teams used the loop before. The whole rule needs to be changed. Players shouldn't be allowed to return until the next season if they are dealt before the mid-season tradeline.
im all good with it too cuz its a loophole...might aswell take advantage while its still there.
They cant just make this rule up in the middle of the season.
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