The saddest part is: a new coach who simply uses a different philosophy actually sounds pretty welcome right now. It's not like Pop's trotting out the lineups or we even possess the pieces to play consistent top 5 defense anymore.
What I really want is the old Pop back. I wish he would be stubborn about playing two bigs on the floor entire games for a while, if only for " s and giggles." Maybe we'd even get a look at Ian.
Most teams already figured out Pop - J. Sloan is 4:0 against the Spurs this year, Denver with George as a coach also beat us 2 times at the ATT center, needless to say Rick Carlisle and the Mavericks can beat us easily as well - Butler, Haywood, and Stevenson are just too much...do I need to say more?
It seems pretty simple on offense and defense to me. Duncan 6-11 / Mcdyess 6-9 / Blair 6-7 / Mahinmi 6-11 and I dont count Bonner even though he is 6-10 for obvious reasons. As long as you have either Duncan and another big out there AT THE SAME TIME then you should be ok defensively provided the wings ( RJ/Hill/Manu/Parker/Bogans ) get up on their man and force them to the side an not give up middle. Thats on defense! On offense Parker has to take heat, RJ has to produce as a spot-up shooter when playing w/ TP. Its kinda hard to be aggressive standing behind the 3pt line while your PG dribbles away. Rather some give and take would be nice. Let TP do his thing while RJ stands around, and then give RJ some mid-post iso plays and clear out for him. That way he can still be effective even of his 3pt shot isnt falling, cause he'll most likely get 8-10 FT a night with a consistent iso feed in that midpost area.
that's horse , find me a coach that will take this injured Tony Parker, this inconsistent Ginobili, this worn out Tim, this pussified RJ, this half a season Dice and make them a contending team.....
agree - this team is NOT a contending team by NO means!
How about Gregg Popovich 2005 edition.
There was a time when almost every player we acquired became a better player as a result of joining the Spurs. It's been difficult to find examples of this in the past few years. RJ didn't just suddenly turn into a pussy overnight. He deserves the criticism he's received but if this same RJ joins the 1999-2007 Spurs I doubt we'd be seeing the same absolute inep ude.
I'm tired of the excuses being made for Tim, Tony and Manu too. At some point the coach has to ask for more from his best players. Pop2005 would have done that. Pop2010 continues to give them permission to settle for mediocrity.
As far as being a contender, why the not? You really think the best we could do last year was losing in 5 to the Mavericks in Round 1?? You think 31-22 is an acceptable record for this group of players?
good D hill
oops wrong thread lol
I give a bitto J.T.
And yet you have said just the opposite.
I'm calling out your idea that Mahimni can be a starter. Mahimni is not talented enough to be a starter.
Yes, I made a typo. I meant to say that Mahimni doesn't seem to be starting material.
My point was if you take Pop from 2005 and make him the coach of this team, he would have higher expectations.
For all those calling for Pop's head, what do you think another coach could do with this group? Stir in a new coach & the Spurs become the team of 2005, 2007?? Think we win another championship, like, next year?
Whatever Pop is doing thus far isn't working thus far but I'm not ready to give up on him. After all, he coached most of these guys to 4 rings.....can't beat that. Still, it seems as if the players aren't getting it or are tuning him out.....or it could simply be a combination of everything....from coaching-injuries-lack of talent in key positions-age has caught up with this team.
How 'bout them colts?
3/4 of the coaches int his league could do a much better job than Pop has this year. It's hilarious to see the lineups he trots out there. Most sensible coaches would be playing 2 bigs, and probably giving Ian and Hairston some more playing time earlier in the season.
Pop is a joke and needs to go the Dunleavy route.
The Spurs have only slightly less talent now than they had at the beginning of the season when many people picked them to contend for a le, and that's only because of the scorched earth policy Pop seemed to employ before the trade deadline.
JT needs to take that starting lineup from tonight vs. Detroit and shove it up his ass.
Pop should be removed from gm responsibilities.
This is it. Injuries have made the so called big 3 a s of what they were in the past, the last couple of years. Other teams have also improved since their last le. The league is ever changing and the spurs just did not keep up.
And not addressing getting a true starting quality center has hurt the interior defense.
What's pretty scare is that the thought that Pop tries to resign all or most of the players on our current roster this summer. Imagine that!?
They could not seem to figure out Pop though when we had the talent to beat the outta them though did they? Their teams are better now, sure the others coaches have coached well against us and Pop for some reason plays the wrong lineups alot of times this year! Still I think the team is just older now and needs new pieces around the big three (Young athletic), the team just isn't that great anymore and the others came up.
Pop is a HOF coach like someone said, sure his lineups baffle us all, but he didn't make RJ play like UTTER SHYT and a few other injuries like Parker have hurt the flow of the team.
This teams core is just not what they used to be when we were winning les, sometimes it boils down to that sides the stupid rotations and lineups at times.
I would cry then, seriously! Mason still on the books next year? I know Finley is not and Bonner is off (Hope to GOD). I seriously don't care if I see any of them again on the Floor after this year, it's been enough and it's over with.
How long is Bogans on BTW? I hope just one year as well? Gino needs to be resigned and these guys need to be let go and they need to try and bring in Splitter or Gist, or both! Gist is athletic and can play the 3, he is a good shooter who can rebound as well, he would be great here.
The core is only different because you have a coach who is so damn dense he thinks he can win with Bonner, Finley, and Jefferson logging significant time at the 4/5 spots.
It is Popdamn ridiculous that the franchise that won multiple les with the Twin Towers anchoring the front court is trotting out the likes of Richard Jefferson and Michael Finley for any minutes, let alone significant minutes, at the four spot.
Pop always used to be great at adapting to what's going on in the league (albeit typically in the off-season as opposed to real-time in playoff series), yet he's been stuck on small ball since 2007. It's no coincidence this team hasn't sniffed a le since Pop fell in love with playing Nellieball, and unfortunately if this season is any indication it appears Smallball will also have to be written in the epitaph of the Tim Duncan era as the cause of death.
, I still believe. With Manu playing better & getting his shot back, I believe. With Tim consistantly 20/10, I believe. With Tony getting healthy before the play offs, I believe.
With RJ growing a pair? Well, not so much....
But I still BELIEVE this team is capable in a 7 game series.
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The sticks are like:
Fire Pop!
Replace him with.....er someone.
If you ever wanted to see crystalized stupidty, the fire Pop sticks exemplify it.
Do they honestly think that qualifies as basketball discussion? Intelligent insight?
They do not care who Pop is replaced with, they simply think he is an idiot who does stupid things and firing him will automatically be an improvement.
They do not realize all coaches do stupid things.
They do not realize Pop has always done stupid things.
They do not realize that whether Pop does stupid or not, he is still an organizational genius, way fucing more than merely a coach for the Spurs.
They literally think he is the only stupid coach in the NBA and whoever he is replaced with will not be as stupid.
Ironically enough, this mindset, this lack of foresight, this lack of knowledge of Pop's role on the Spurs, as well as the lack of knowledge that all coaches do seemingly stupid , clearly marks them as much stupider than Pop will be on his stupidest day on the planet. And pointedly proves why they should not be listened to.
Want to fire Pop? Then who do you replace him with? Idiots.
I guarantee you that most of the names you will select will have little or no evidence to lead anyone to believe they will be as successful as Pop is even now.
It's simly a bunch of overly emotional non-thinking vaginas reacting to the Spurs substadard w-l and wildly swinging the blame.
You do not fire Pop, the most successful Front Office Exec, as well as Coach, that the Spurs have ever had, will ever have, without having a clear view of who his replacement will be, and reasons why they will be better.
And I am sorry but, my grandmother would be smart enough not to play small ball, is not a suitable basis for this decision, it just means you are an overly emotional reactionary idiot, whose esteem is tied way to closely to the Spurs w-l record and result of their last game played, whining on a message board.
Why don't you fire Pop crew simply go find another team to root for, you know, one with a coach who doesn't make stupid decisions? Like the Spurs and Pop used to be.
Yeah I know, you've been a fan forever etc, whether that is true or not, you damn sure haven't done as much for the Spurs as Pop has, and you probably aren't as smart or as good of a coach or GM as he is, even now, either.
Besides, it will be good for you to search for a non-stupid coach.
You don't fire Gregg Popovich's for the reasons and in the way that you guys want to do it, you're simply a bunch of idiots whining on a message board.
When this change is made, if it isn't a decision Pop makes for himself, which is something he has earned btw, you need to find the replacement first, then fire, not the other way around. The other way around is stupid, and pretty much what every franchise does on it's way down.
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