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And how exactly does that translate to NBA game playing time? , I'm guessing some of those And 1 street ball guys could probably beat Duncan 1 on 1, so I guess that means we should bench him too, eh?
thats true since Bogans and Bonner are such great prospects and we dont wanna take time away from them and the team is winning, good point Bruno..I don't really blame for not giving playing to prospects like Hairston or Mahinmi. It's not like they are some kind of great prospects who could have a big impact.
IMO, Pop's biggest mistake is the lack of consistency in his choices. This team badly needs chemistry and Pop is changing his mind for every game. Bonner went from starter to DNP-CD. It's impossible for a team to get some kind of iden y with a coach like that.
Spurs' FO also deserve to be blamed for having done nothing at the trade deadline. Even if the RJ trade hasn't worked, I think it's damn stupid to have given up on the season like they did. With a good trade and some players playing better, Spurs could have done some noise this year and be a solid outsider. By standing pat, Spurs have no chance at all.
And how exactly does that translate to NBA game playing time? , I'm guessing some of those And 1 street ball guys could probably beat Duncan 1 on 1, so I guess that means we should bench him too, eh?
IMO, that comes down to the players playing consistently. Mase got his minutes and didn't do anything with them, why should Pops take another chance on him when he doesn't provide?
Do you have some insider info. that said the FO didn't try to do anything? Or do the Spurs have some sort of exemption that would force the other teams to go along with whatever trade they wanted?Spurs' FO also deserve to be blamed for having done nothing at the trade deadline. Even if the RJ trade hasn't worked, I think it's damn stupid to have given up on the season like they did. With a good trade and some players playing better, Spurs could have done some noise this year and be a solid outsider. By standing pat, Spurs have no chance at all.
It's amazing to me that the Spurs have a philosophy of cracking rock with a thousand hammer-blows, but Spurs fans can't seem to see how dozens of poor decisions can turn a great team into an average team. If there's any chance Hairston can play better defense than Bogans, then he's worth a shot. If there's any chance Mahinmi can play better defense than Bonner, then he's worth a shot. Regardless, the fact that both are still question marks at this point in the season when the Spurs are sliding down the standings is unforgivable.
You're right, that 30 minutes/game Finley's been averaging over the past 3 games are way too much... wait...
Bogans OTOH must have nude pics of Pops for the time he's been getting.
Because Pop has given Bogans minutes from day one and he hasn't provided. Mason is putting up better numbers than Bogans despite not getting consistent burn. Who has the bigger upside? Pro athletes are creatures of habit, and NBA jump shooters moreso. The lineup changes being made with this team qualifies as flailing and smacks of panic. If a coach can't be a stabilizing force, then he's not much use.
And perhaps he shows he can't in practice.
Bonner had a DNP yesterday and hasn't really been using up minutes since he came back.If there's any chance Mahinmi can play better defense than Bonner, then he's worth a shot.
Are you advocating they completely give up this season?Regardless, the fact that both are still question marks at this point in the season when the Spurs are sliding down the standings is unforgivable.
IF only those 2 players were not question marks. Some here keep mocking saying both are trash. That maybe true but how does one know this either way. Non, of us expect them to be saviors but some of us believe that they have skills that can be very useful to this team. Whats the worst that could happen? Lose a couple of games while you try them out a bit, well that's pretty much happening right now.
If they suck so much as some of you think they do, then what are you afraid of? it's a win, win to try them out because if they do suck you didn't lose much anyway.
Who said Finley played in the last three games? Nice strawman. Go get it.You're right, that 30 minutes/game Finley's been averaging over the past 3 games are way too much... wait...
Neither, yet I'm guessing Bogans' is playing better D, however little that difference probably is.
Great, then he should put up a thousand shots in practice, keep his jumper warm for when he gets his chances.Pro athletes are creatures of habit, and NBA jump shooters moreso.
No . Do you think they were expecting to be in 7th after last off season? There should be panic from everyone, the FO and the players.The lineup changes being made with this team qualifies as flailing and smacks of panic.
You said "Finley... didn't earn the playing time they've gotten", I was pointing out that he hasn't had playing time, so you quote was wrong. PS, that wasn't a strawman.
Practice?!?!?!?
The team can't afford any more losses, even the couple they would probably lose from that experiment.Non, of us expect them to be saviors but some of us believe that they have skills that can be very useful to this team. Whats the worst that could happen? Lose a couple of games while you try them out a bit, well that's pretty much happening right now.
If they suck so much as some of you think they do, then what are you afraid of? it's a win, win to try them out because if they do suck you didn't lose much anyway.
You mean Toros practice?
Bogans shows he can't play defense in games, but Pop continues to start him and compare him to Bruce Bowen in the press. Nobody has to guess about that. Bogans started from day one and got heavy minutes from the second he arrived in town, much to everyone's puzzlement. Mason has had no consistent role the entire season, yet he currently has put up better numbers than Bogans in similar minutes. If one guy is better than the starter in games and can't get any consistent minutes, what makes you think that somehow they're evaluating all their options properly?
Other than starting the two previous games before that. What part of "Not an NBA starting center" do you fail to understand?
Where on earth did you pull that from? I'm suggesting they've got very little time to save it. Pop has talked about defense being a priority for the team for a while, yet he's starting players and rolling out lineups that can't defend their position.
So you're saying that Michael Finley has never gotten playing time as a Spur?
You're saying Finley didn't earn his playing time the last 3 games?
Yes, we'd hate to risk this huge hot streak Matt Bonner and Keith Bogans shutting down opposing teams with their stifling defense. Can't risk the contribution those guys are going to make to a deep playoff run.
So you're saying that Pop gives players playing time that they deserve because Finley hasn't played the last three games?
This is fun. Stupid, but fun.
Right now we're pounding the rock for a few minutes using a screwdriver, then switching to an icepick for a few more minutes, then a hammer, then back to the icepick, then we're trying a mini shovel, then a spoon, then a screwdriver again, then a paperclip...
At some point it would be nice to settle on the hammer.
Well isn't that another mistake from the man you seem to speak so highly of? Pop should have worked on the youth early on but didn't. I agree that it's much harder now and should have been done at the start of the season.
Can't afford any loses? Because the line ups you keep defending are doing so well...
Do they not practice?You mean Toros practice?
I agree, he gets too many minutes. The Bogans experiment should be nearing it's end. That doesn't mean that Hairston deserves a shot by default.Bogans shows he can't play defense in games, but Pop continues to start him and compare him to Bruce Bowen in the press. Nobody has to guess about that. Bogans started from day one and got heavy minutes from the second he arrived in town, much to everyone's puzzlement.
Stats don't show everything. But if you want to look at stats, Bogans is currently shooting betting, rebounding better, has less TO/game, and more steals.Mason has had no consistent role the entire season, yet he currently has put up better numbers than Bogans in similar minutes. If one guy is better than the starter in games and can't get any consistent minutes, what makes you think that somehow they're evaluating all their options properly?
Nothing, who said anything about him starting all the time? See, that would be a strawman you just posted.Other than starting the two previous games before that. What part of "Not an NBA starting center" do you fail to understand?
So you say that they should start playing an unproven big man and a D-leaguer to save the season?Where on earth did you pull that from? I'm suggesting they've got very little time to save it. Pop has talked about defense being a priority for the team for a while, yet he's starting players and rolling out lineups that can't defend their position.
You're right, we could sure use some lock-down D from that strawman team you're building to get us over this hump...
Hey, you're the one that started with the asinine posts, I'm just continuing your flawed logic.
What could he have done to work on it considering who their team was at the start of this year?
I'm defending the line ups they're trying?Can't afford any loses? Because the line ups you keep defending are doing so well...
I'm defending throwing in the season to play some un-provens because people have a chicken little complex going on here.
What if the hammer was small ball
What's Dikembe up to these days?
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