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    Good for Theo, holy , we should have given him 10 million for that output.
    Why would we give him 10 million if he was signed for 1 million?

    Yep, just highly alluding to it...
    Bull .
    Hey, it's not my fault that you're butthurt because it took Theo one day to shred your entire argument in tiny little pieces. If you want to argue with the boxscore, go right ahead...

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    You mean like saying " Are you saying that 1/1000 of a percent shooting makes up for the three more points that Mason's scoring? Are you really?"

    Yep, seems to me that you are misrepresenting my opinion on that matter.
    Let's review the tape, shall we?

    I said Mason puts up better numbers. You then said "if you want to look at stats, Bogans is currently shooting betting (sic)"

    Asking if you are giving Bogans' .001 shooting percentage the same weight as Mason's two and a half extra ppg is completely logical based upon the argument you attempted to put forth. There's no strawman argument there. If you don't like questions asking if your statements are meant the way you stated them, perhaps you shouldn't be twisting my arguments and asking ridiculous questions that have nothing to do with them.
    EDIT: I don't want to know how you thnk I misrepresented you, because I clearly did not. Your aim is not to do anything but troll the people that have shredded your popsucking ways for the last five years.

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    We should ask every team that that has over 12 men on their roster.
    No matter who you post as, you're still a in idiot. Plonk.

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    Why would we give him 10 million if he was signed for 1 million?
    Why would we play him more when he's only averaging 1 point, 2.5 boards, and 1 block a game for Charlotte?

    Hey, it's not my fault that you're butthurt because it took Theo one day to shred your entire argument in tiny little pieces. If you want to argue with the boxscore, go right ahead...
    What a joke. , Bonner puts up a better stat line then that. Bonner even had 2 blocks against Denver, looks like we found our Ratliff replacement there.

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    It's even somewhat Spurs-related (if you look closely).
    Last edited by Blackjack; 02-22-2010 at 03:51 PM.

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    EDIT: I don't want to know how you thnk I misrepresented you, because I clearly did not. Your aim is not to do anything but troll the people that have shredded your popsucking ways for the last five years.
    Yeah, 5 years, 2 championships, what a in loser.

    No matter who you post as, you're still a in idiot. Plonk.

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    EDIT: I don't want to know how you thnk I misrepresented you, because I clearly did not.
    Yes, you did. Where did I say that Bogans' shooting percentage made up for Mason's better point average? I didn't say it anywhere, I said that Bogans had some better stats then Mason after you brought it up. Don't get pissed at me that I'm not kowtowing to the ing chicken little at ude around here. Though I would probably make a fortune on high-quality umbrellas here.

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    Ithink I'm gonna get a drink to go along with my

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    Alright, two simple requests . . .

    I'd appreciate arguments rooted in the belief that their merit improves this team's chances this or next year, and that they prevent me from experiencing the feelings this squad's consistently come to elicit (their one true consistency).

    RTB, and thanks.

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    I might be wrong but I think Pop needs PJ back. PJ was a voice that Pop respected and trusted to tell him the truth.

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    It isn't difficult to understand..

    The Spurs aren't going anywhere with their current lineup..they should play their young guys to see if they have any game and whether the Spurs should look to keep them next year and beyond..the Spurs should be looking at the future at this point..it's not a difficult concept to understand..
    This really says it all.

    Much of the rest of the discussion here is just debating meaningless details. The big picture is clear: this year's team is toast, time to focus on next season and beyond.

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    But Bogans shoots better than Mason. Didn't you hear TPark, I mean Eric, I mean whoever? That means Pop is a genius because, well, because...well how many rings do you have?

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    This really says it all.

    Much of the rest of the discussion here is just debating meaningless details. The big picture is clear: this year's team is toast, time to focus on next season and beyond.
    Agreed totally.

    I'm all for a rotation as such just to see what we have in Hairston and Mahimni.


    w/ out Parker

    Hill
    Hairston
    Jefferson
    Duncan
    McDyess

    Manu
    Blair
    Mahimni

    w/ Parker
    Parker
    Hill
    Jefferson
    Duncan
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    Manu
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    Blair
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    It won't happen though with Pop as a coach.

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    But Bogans shoots better than Mason. Didn't you hear TPark, I mean Eric, I mean whoever? That means Pop is a genius because, well, because...well how many rings do you have?
    So cute.

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    It won't happen though with Pop as a coach.
    It shouldn't happen unless the realization that this season is gone comes. Until there is that smattering of hope that the team will get out of the 1st round, they shouldn't attempt to add 2 more to an inconsistent roster.

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    Why would we play him more when he's only averaging 1 point, 2.5 boards, and 1 block a game for Charlotte?
    We can't play him more. He's been traded, remember?

    What a joke. , Bonner puts up a better stat line then that. Bonner even had 2 blocks against Denver, looks like we found our Ratliff replacement there.
    Bringing up single games is all you have...
    You want to look at career averages? I didn't think so.

    I told you once already, you gotta step up your game, 'Mr Fundamental'...

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    This team is not toast. It's not too late to turn it around. John Lucas took a 9-11 Spurs team and went 25-4 with the exact same roster. There's no reason to think the Spurs aren't playing below their potential.

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    We can't play him more. He's been traded.
    We should totally take him back then, and get MN to give us Darko, we'd be unstoppable!!!



    Bringing up single games is all you have...
    You want to look at career averages? I didn't think so.
    You brought up 2 games like they mean something. What a ing joke. So 2 games shows we should have kept Theo, yet one game doesn't mean ? Jesus christ this forum is in ridiculous.

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    It shouldn't happen unless the realization that this season is gone comes. Until there is that smattering of hope that the team will get out of the 1st round, they shouldn't attempt to add 2 more to an inconsistent roster.
    Mahimni and Hairston can be doing what Bonner/Mason/Bogans have been doing for the past month.

    They can't do worse. Our defense as is relatively pathetic night in and night out.

    Mahimni and Hairston at least possess more defensive skill sets than any of those three players that are in the rotation.

    And don't tell me they wouldn't be able to grasp the philosophy, they have been in the program long enough to be aware of defensive assignments and the plays offensively.

    I really think Spurs are trying to lower Mahimni's value as much as possible, so they can possibly resign him to a 3-4 year on the cheap ( similar to Blair's).

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    This really says it all.

    Much of the rest of the discussion here is just debating meaningless details. The big picture is clear: this year's team is toast, time to focus on next season and beyond.
    Eventually, the discussion finds its way back to the OP (sometimes?).

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    Mahimni and Hairston can be doing what Bonner/Mason/Bogans have been doing for the past month.
    How exactly do you know that? Have you been with the coaching staff or are you just basing that off of 1 game for Ian and the D-league for Hairston?

    They can't do worse. Our defense as is relatively pathetic night in and night out.
    And it could be completely pathetic with them it, so I would say they could do worse.

    Mahimni and Hairston at least possess more defensive skill sets than any of those three players that are in the rotation.
    Based on what? The fact Ian is almost 7 feet?

    And don't tell me they wouldn't be able to grasp the philosophy, they have been in the program long enough to be aware of defensive assignments and the plays offensively.
    Then why haven't they broke the rotation already? Obviously it's not as simple as knowing the theory behind everything.

    I really think Spurs are trying to lower Mahimni's value as much as possible, so they can possibly resign him to a 3-4 year on the cheap ( similar to Blair's).
    I'm guessing they probably could have done an extension like that if they truly wanted him back.

    He could end up being the next Dwight or he could end up being the next Darko, but IMO we'd have to come to the realization that this season is over if we are going to start experimenting with prospects.

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    This team is not toast. It's not too late to turn it around. John Lucas took a 9-11 Spurs team and went 25-4 with the exact same roster. There's no reason to think the Spurs aren't playing below their potential.
    So now we are going to bring up the past to justify the teams inconsistency for the past 54 games?

    This team has shown zero signs of improvement from day 1.

    Take off the homer glasses.

    This team is toast. Especially with Mason/Bogans and Bonner playing significant roles. Replacing them with Mahimni and Hairston wouldn't hurt the team anymore than Mason/Bogans and Bonner already are.

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    Mahimni and Hairston can be doing what Bonner/Mason/Bogans have been doing for the past month.
    How exactly do you know that? Have you been with the coaching staff or are you just basing that off of 1 game for Ian and the D-league for Hairston?

    They can't do worse. Our defense as is relatively pathetic night in and night out.
    And it could be completely pathetic with them it, so I would say they could do worse.

    Mahimni and Hairston at least possess more defensive skill sets than any of those three players that are in the rotation.
    Based on what? The fact Ian is almost 7 feet?

    And don't tell me they wouldn't be able to grasp the philosophy, they have been in the program long enough to be aware of defensive assignments and the plays offensively.
    Then why haven't they broke the rotation already? Obviously it's not as simple as knowing the theory behind everything.

    I really think Spurs are trying to lower Mahimni's value as much as possible, so they can possibly resign him to a 3-4 year on the cheap ( similar to Blair's).
    I'm guessing they probably could have done an extension like that if they truly wanted him back.

    He could end up being the next Dwight or he could end up being the next Darko, but IMO we'd have to come to the realization that this season is over if we are going to start experimenting with prospects. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a combination of Hill, Blair, Hairston, and Mahinmi on the court.

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    We should totally take him back then, and get MN to give us Darko, we'd be unstoppable!!!
    We can't take him back... again, Mr Fundamental. You need to step up your game.

    You brought up 2 games like they mean something. What a ing joke. So 2 games shows we should have kept Theo, yet one game doesn't mean ?
    But when you bring up a single game or two is ok?
    And it was you, not me, that claimed the guy had a bad back and couldn't play 20 minutes a game. He obviously can.

    Jesus christ this forum is in ridiculous.
    What? You dish it out but can't take it? Definitely sounds like TPark...
    Stop bringing that weaksauce if you don't like getting your ass handed to you every other post...

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    We can't take him back... again, Mr Fundamental. You need to step up your game.
    See: sarcasm


    But when you bring up a single game or two is ok?
    And it was you, not me, that claimed the guy had a bad back and couldn't play 20 minutes a game. He obviously can.
    OK, I'll admit, technically he can play 15 minutes, albeit at a really low level that wouldn't help the Spurs.

    What? You dish it out but can't take it? Definitely sounds like TPark...
    Stop bringing that weaksauce if you don't like getting your ass handed to you every other post...
    Can't take what, your asinine posts? You're right. They are so contradictory and fallacious it makes my head hurt.

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