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The only teams that would be interested in his contract would be those with players on even longer, uglier contracts.
Has any NBA team ever taken an expiring contract early in the season, or is this a move generally taken at or near the trade deadline?
I think it would be advantageous for an early season trade so that you have time to see what you have, as opposed to around feb. , do it in the summer if you can. I think the longer he is around, the more games we lose as we wait for feb to come around, not that he's the only player to point the finger at.
The only teams that would be interested in his contract would be those with players on even longer, uglier contracts.
Not true, the Knicks have shown the willingness to make some of the stupidest moves in basketball. Just imagine, July 1st dealing RJ to NY. They just might do it if they dont get LJ/Wade/Bosh next season.
Who knows, Jefferson fat expiring should be fairly easy to move IMO. Just need to get something decent in return.
Not necessarily, I mean, Come Feb someone is gonna want to free up 15 million for the following year. But I'm wondering if that same team would take the contract earlier.
If we keep it then we benefit, however, since it's Timmy's last year (next year) it would make sense to make one last run, thus moving it asap.
I generally agree. However, what about this scenario? If I've looked at it correctly, there are at least 4 teams going into the summer who will have $16 million in cap space or more- New Jersey, New York, Miami, and Chicago. If one of these teams completely strikes out in big name free agents, rather than use their cap space to overpay the remaining players, is there any chance they'd rather use their cap space to take on Jefferson? The Spurs would probably be willing to dump him for cheap (say a draft pick or two), they'd have a viable player on a short contract, and a big expiring contract that they can probably flip again for more talent later in the year. Granted, I'll admit this is a long-shot scenario, but if LeBron, DWade, Amare, Bosh, Ginobili, etc. are all signed and Chicago or New Jersey is sitting there empty handed, it's at least an avenue I'd try to explore if I were the Spurs FO.
Yeah, like someone else said, where's Isiah when you need him...
Early in the season, rarely because teams are still full of hope.
Come February, failed teams will be tripping over themselves to take RJ so they can shed salary. It will probably be the best thing RJ does for the Spurs.
impossible.
The FO won't want an impact player on a bad contract in return IMO..hopefully they would take a guy like Iggy, but I doubt it..Philly would be all over that, but I don't think the FO would want to pay a guy like that for 3-4 more years..
Next off-season will be very interesting, that's for sure.
I brought up a similar scenario in another thread, only I suggested Parker for one of their young players plus a giant trade exception. It's not at all inconceivable that Knicks fail on their first target and want to acquire a placeholder to move their cap space to 2011 and go after Melo.
If the Knicks offer up their cap space to make 12-15M disappear off of someone's payroll, I believe that they'll get much better offers than RJ.
I don't like the scenarios where we take on a long-term deal in order to move RJ. I'd possibly bite on a trade for a player whose contract went through 2011-12, but I wouldn't be interested in any longer deals. I'd rather see them let his contract expire.
They'd get much better offers as far as talent. I don't think they'd get many offers to take big expiring contracts for cheap. I guess it depends where their gameplan and priorities lie.
This...unless the Spurs were willing to include a major sweetner, like Blair/Hill/Splitter, and even then it wouldn't likely be enough.
My guess is that the Spurs go this route in the off-season with someone like Corey Maggette or Rip Hamilton. They would probably ask for a young player and/or expiring contracts in addition to lessen the cap hit in the future.
Trading Parker next year is the only scenario where the Spurs add the long-term contract of a player is worthy of said contract. Something like Iggy, Speights/Young and future first round pick may be enough.
Having said that, I think it would be a mistake to trade Parker with his value lower than it's been in a while.
You might be surprised. I did a quick check of expiring contracts in excess of 10M next year. Some of these teams would probably add draft picks to save 20-30M in salary and luxury tax.
Jamal Crawford
Tyson Chandler
Tayshaun Prince
Troy Murphy
Mike Dunleavy
Zach Randolph
Michael Redd
Peja
Sam Dalembert
Jason Richardson
Andrei Kirilenko
I would guess that if NY auctions their cap space, regardless of whether they were looking for the best talent or the greatest additional payment, they'll find a better deal than RJ.
It seems unlikely that RJ will be moved without including additional assets or by accepting an expensive long-term deal.
Would sign and trade work with Memphis for like rudy gay? I know that they may not be able sign gay back, but I'm just not too sure how a sign and trade works...
Yes it will.
Elton Brand
Emeka Okafor
Exactly my point.
A sign and trade would theoretically work.
Memphis signs Rudy Gay to a ~$15 million contract and then exchanges him for Jefferson.
In reality though, there's really no reason for Memphis to take on RJ when they are getting rid of Rudy Gay because they don't want to pay him $15 million.
Available expensive Long term deals (that might be doable marked with *'s) (I have left out most star players - eg. Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Kobe Bryant, etc.)
Iguoalda*
Deng*
Biedrins*
Maggette*
Ellis*
Josh Smith
Rajon Rondo
Gerald Wallace
Stephen Jackson
Anderson Varejao
Antawn Jamison*
Shawn Marion*
Richard Hamilton*
Ben Gordon*
Charlie Villanueva*
Kevin Martin
Danny Granger* (if they decide to really blow it up; I don't think they will)
Baron Davis*
Chris Kaman
Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum
Lamar Odom
Andrew Bogut
Al Jefferson
Devin Harris*
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor*
Rashard Lewis
Jameer Nelson
Elton Brand*
Steve Nash
Lamarcus Aldridge
Turkoglu*
Calderon*
Bargnani*
Arenas*
Note, the asterisks are associated with either a) really bad contracts (bad players on expensive deals), b) teams that are in financial trouble, and c) teams that might just sell pennies on the dollar to blow it all up.
Also, I am not advocating for any of these players. I am just laying the options on the table...
Iggy and Granger were the 2 ideas I had in another thread, and those would be the main players I would go after IF the FO decides to take on a longer contract to give Duncan another year of contending..getting one of those guys(I'd prefer Iggy) would give us an ACTUAL all-star caliber player(these guys can actually create their own shots) and they both also play D(especially Iggy) so we wouldn't have the RJ problem where he can't do anything to contribute when he's scoring(he's been a horrible defender for the 2 years before this due to injuries and he's never been a great rebounder IIRC)..
The other smart option would be to rebuild..
I don't know which one the FO will choose..I could see either one, but I don't think they would be likely to do the former..
IMHO the earliest would probably be next year as an expiring contrat before the trade deadline.
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