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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    Was it a nuclear option when the Republican majority used it to enact tax cuts?

    I don't necessarily agree with its use, but "nuclear"?
    Nucular.

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    That does sound like Biden...! Dang it
    Sounds like something you would say, stupid.

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    I don't care if the quote is from a Dem.

    Each party uses the tools and powers it fought so hard to gain.

    Repugs love spending and big deficits when they are spending, but it's a crisis when Dems are doing. one big ing YAWN!

    Reconciliation was also ruled out by Reid, so there's no reason public option has to stay ruled out.

    The sooner Reid gets defeated in AZ, the better. Emblematic of the less, spineless, no-leadership Dems

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    I don't care if the quote is from a Dem.

    Each party uses the tools and powers it fought so hard to gain.

    Repugs love spending and big deficits when they are spending, but it's a crisis when Dems are doing. one big ing YAWN!

    Reconciliation was also ruled out by Reid, so there's no reason public option has to stay ruled out.

    The sooner Reid gets defeated in AZ, the better. Emblematic of the less, spineless, no-leadership Dems
    Of course you don't care. You just want to rant about anyone who is not a democrat, far left one at that....That makes you a bigot!

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    Of course you don't care. You just want to rant about anyone who is not a republican, far right one at that....That makes you a bigot!

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    I'm a ing idiot and I make up things to make myself feel better

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    the sooner reid gets defeated in az, the better
    az? Don't you mean Nevada?

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    McConnell supported passage of 2003 tax cuts through reconciliation. While Wallace noted that reconciliation "has been used by other presidents, including George W. Bush," in 2003, McConnell himself voted for the Senate version of the fiscal 2004 budget resolution that called for additional tax cuts to be considered under reconciliation and for the final version of the 2004 budget resolution. He also voted against an amendment to the Senate version of the budget resolution, proposed by Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV), that would have stripped reconciliation instructions from the resolution. He subsequently voted for the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 itself. CBO estimated that the bill, as cleared by Congress, "would increase budget deficits ... by $349.7 billion over the 2003-2013 period."

    McConnell supported passage of 2005 tax cuts through reconciliation. In 2005, McConnell voted for the final version of the fiscal 2005 budget resolution, which also called for tax cuts through reconciliation. He subsequently voted for the Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 itself. CBO estimated that the bill, as cleared by Congress and signed by the president, would "reduce federal revenues ... by $69.1 billion over the 2006-2015 period."

    McConnell supported use of reconciliation to pass measure that would have allowed oil drilling in ANWR. McConnell was one of 51 senators who voted against striking language allowing the reconciliation process to be used to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge from the 2006 budget resolution and voted for a reconciliation bill that, as originally introduced in and passed by the Senate, included a provision to open up the refuge to drilling. (The bill as enacted did not contain such a provision.)

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    good to see that everyone likes reconciliation when it's their team who gets to do it.

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    good to see that everyone likes reconciliation when it's their team who gets to do it.
    either you support it or you don't.

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    I don't care if the quote is from a Dem.

    Each party uses the tools and powers it fought so hard to gain.

    Repugs love spending and big deficits when they are spending, but it's a crisis when Dems are doing. one big ing YAWN!

    Reconciliation was also ruled out by Reid, so there's no reason public option has to stay ruled out.

    The sooner Reid gets defeated in AZ, the better. Emblematic of the less, spineless, no-leadership Dems
    There's a lot more than one Dem that talked about; watch the video.

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    "Under our rules, you are required to get 2/3 of the votes to change the rules."

    There's no need to change the rules. The dubya/ head Repugs used reconciliation several times, no change in rules was needed.
    Yes, but the public in large was not against them doing so. If the democrats cram this down our throats, their losses will be catastrophic in November.

    Reconciliation was used for the Bush Tax cuts. How many voters though they were getting tax cuts rammed down their throats?

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    They shouldn't have used it back then.

    Too late to whine about it now.

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    They shouldn't have used it back then.

    Too late to whine about it now.
    That's your opinion.

    There was no public outcry when it was done for tax cuts. If the democrats do it for health care, they might be effectively committing suicide to their careers.

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    That's your opinion.

    There was no public outcry when it was done for tax cuts. If the democrats do it for health care, they might be effectively committing suicide to their careers.
    Big whoop.

    The Republicans were warned using reconciliation could lead to exactly this. don't think they won't use it again in the future once they are back in power.

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    Big whoop.

    The Republicans were warned using reconciliation could lead to exactly this. don't think they won't use it again in the future once they are back in power.
    Let the chips fall as they may.

    The republican used it to pass legislation that the public at large agree with.

    The democrats are threatening to use it for legislation that the public at large does not want.

    Who do you think will stand up to the public vote?

    If the republicans use it in the future, think they will do so against the will of the people like the democrats are threatening? If they do, they deserve to be tossed out as well.

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    Let the chips fall as they may.

    The republican used it to pass legislation that the public at large agree with.
    According to what? They lost the Congress after they used reconciliation several times. Looks like they worked against the public will,

    The democrats are threatening to use it for legislation that the public at large does not want.
    According to what? Depending on how polls are worded, the actual will of the people isn't so easily defined.

    Who do you think will stand up to the public vote?
    What does that mean?

    If the republicans use it in the future, think they will do so against the will of the people like the democrats are threatening? If they do, they deserve to be tossed out as well.
    They already did and already were.

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    Guess who said it.
    Guess what he was talking about.

    Do you even know what the nuclear option was back then?

    It certainly isn't what the Republicans are calling the nuclear option now.

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    Chump, you no longer deserve a response. To make such a statement without evidence. The republicans weren't voted out because of reconciliation, but because they broke the Contract with America.

    You are in the Twilight Zone.

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    Chump, you no longer deserve a response. To make such a statement without evidence. The republicans weren't voted out because of reconciliation, but because they broke the Contract with America.
    And your evidence for that is . . . ?

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    Chump, you no longer deserve a response. To make such a statement without evidence. The republicans weren't voted out because of reconciliation, but because they broke the Contract with America.

    You are in the Twilight Zone.
    You made that statement without evidence.

    Hypocrite.

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    And your evidence for that is . . . ?
    He heard it on Fox news.. Gingrich, Rove and Hannity said it.

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