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    If you get a chance you should watch it. Your IQ will shoot back up a few more points. Pelosi spoke before Obama wrapped things up. She threw a couple of insults, rambled on for a few minutes then Obama finished things up. Summit over. Everyone else, repugs and dems were fair game. Not her.

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    Sounds like he did. I just turned to CNN and they said he told repugs that they are moving forward without them.
    You mean like when he had the majority in the house and super majority
    in the Senate......yeah baby, I can do it without you......not!
    All mouth and hot air. Hasn't had an original idea since Karl Marx.



    He is an idiot, he thinks he has balls, but they are the balls of a gansta,
    Chicago style.

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    Did somebody read from that copy?

    If not, it was indeed a prop.

    Yeah, Ryan tried to, but Obama shut him up. , Obama talked something
    two hours, his Democrat side talk another two hours and Republicans just
    got two hours.

    But of course the Democrats gave us good soap opera, like the woman
    who used her dead sisters teeth to eat......

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    WHy am I not surprised that the first review of the summit I read differed from jack's experience drastically
    My experience too. I just got home, opened up firefox- The first two stories at the top of my igoogle page were about Obama kicking ass and/or Republicans getting pwnt.

    So yeah, after reading those accounts, I'm not surprised to see the dead enders acting self-righteously defensive. Apparently reality has eluded them yet again.

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    He is an idiot, he thinks he has balls, but they are the balls of a gansta,
    Chicago style.
    lol, this from a peasant.

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    What is the difference in gangsta balls from balls?

    Do you have first hand experience with gangsta balls, x?

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    My experience too. I just got home, opened up firefox- The first two stories at the top of my igoogle page were about Obama kicking ass and/or Republicans getting pwnt.
    It's up to you if you're satisfied by those reports. You're obviously open to the opinions of complete strangers so allow me: the President was desperately trying to command the room and the direction of this bill; talking over others and dare I say down to them. He talked alot, and didn't say very much.

    Call that pwning if you want, but this was supposed to be a discussion. I didn't get a damn thing from it, just a parade for the cameras for both sides.

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    You mean like when he had the majority in the house and super majority
    in the Senate......yeah baby, I can do it without you......not!
    All mouth and hot air. Hasn't had an original idea since Karl Marx.



    He is an idiot, he thinks he has balls, but they are the balls of a gansta,
    Chicago style.
    Wait, does that mean that if he actually rams this thing through with reconciliation you would actually give the guy props for having the balls to do it?

    Somehow I think you'll be actually whining...

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    I will have more respect for Obama if he pushes this through at the risk of his re-election.

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    The American People don't want this crap...but the lefties here will respect him a lot if he shoves it down our throats.

    ...and so it goes.

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    The American People don't want this crap...but the lefties here will respect him a lot if he shoves it down our throats.

    ...and so it goes.
    So far, only the Public Option has been mentioned as a candidate for reconciliation, and the American People want the Public Option.

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    The American People don't want this crap...but the lefties here will respect him a lot if he shoves it down our throats.

    ...and so it goes.
    Why do you rip off Linda Ellerbee?

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    WHy am I not surprised that the first review of the summit I read differed from jack's experience drastically
    Whose review did you first read?

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    So far, only the Public Option has been mentioned as a candidate for reconciliation, and the American People want the Public Option.

    What evidence supports this claim?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Whose review did you first read?
    I picked the article on Yahoo's front page. Yahoo is my home page and that the was the first thing I read about the summit.

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    Put em up, then, or say which ones you mean, Darrin.

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    I've seen polls where people are split vs. the current non-PO health bill, NOT split on the PO option.

    Magic Negro ran on doing a public option, it polled very popularly in the 2008 campaign (and probably won him quite a few votes), people still want a public option. They don't even know any PO details, but like people voted against the Repugs in 2006 and 2008, they probably prefer a public option as voting against the profiteering health insurers.

    Magic Negro is taking a real risk electorally by not including a public option. It's one of my huge disappointments with the guy (as is cutting a deal with BigPharma rather than using them as the whipping boy to bend down the (drug) cost curve (to where US drug costs are the same as non-US drug costs).

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    When MSNBC's two hour special on the Obama Summit starts off with thier peeps saying repugs came more prepared then the dems that is them saying "dems got owned" Out of the 6-7 hours, the repugs only talked for 2 of them. Imagine if Obama was bipartisan curious what they would have said.

    Obama was called out after the first 90 minutes becuase the dems had 50 something minutes so far and repugs 24-25 minutes up to that point, Obama talked down to him reminding him who the president was and that time difference, to that point was only because he opened the talks. But nothing changed.

    LOL@ Obamacare for all because some lady had to wear her dead sisters teeth!!!!!

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    The American People don't want this crap...but the lefties here will respect him a lot if he shoves it down our throats.

    ...and so it goes.
    The American people voted him in and voted in a majority of his party to the Congress. They have the right to pass their legislation through. I did not agree with some of what Bush did but he won and that is what you get to do-- pass your legislation.

    I thought health care reform was a necessity almost 20 years ago when Clinton tried to do something about it, and I will have more respect for Obama doing something about it even if it supposedly might harm his re-election bid.

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    Put em up, then, or say which ones you mean, Darrin.

    Heck, I'll even site a far-left website:

    http://mediamatters.org/research/201002220019

    There are some links to more recent polls at the bottom of the page.

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    I thought health care reform was a necessity almost 20 years ago when Clinton tried to do something about it, and I will have more respect for Obama doing something about it even if it supposedly might harm his re-election bid.


    And it was soundly rejected then, too.

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    Do you notice any consistency in the polls you cited, other than being "about evenly split"?

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    Do you notice any consistency in the polls you cited, other than being "about evenly split"?

    End my suspence. What are you getting at?

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