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    When did reconciliation stop being the nuclear option?
    It never was the nuclear option. You idiots got fooled by your own party into thinking that's what it was not even five years after the real nuclear option was threatened to be used -- by Republicans. It's amazing how ing gullible you are. They took advantage of your stupidity and knee-jerk partisanship.

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    There George the troll goes again. Keep ignoring polls. Keep ignoring town hall meetings. Keep ignoring the Massachusetts, Virginia and New Jersey elections, all 3 voted for Obama a year ago. Keep ignoring the dems themselves that can't pass this bill after 13 months. Keep ignoring the bribes Obama gave those who voted yes who would not have,Nebraska and Lousiana. Ignore the fact americans have rejected free health care for everyone throughout history. Ignore the 94 elections.

    It's past the point Obama is not listening. People's IQ's drop reading your dumbass takes. When november rolls around and the dems lose control of congress, Georgie the troll will be saying it's because whatever Obama tells him to say. They will ignore it then like they do now.

    I love the bull politics the dems are talking about the past two weeks. "Everyone in the polls want what we are presenting." Except they forget to mention, they don't want to pay for it. There are lots of things I want and say " yes " to all the questions that are asked. Then why don't I purchase, I can't afford it. Sleazy, sleazy politics is what is going on here. And Georgie the troll is spewing thier nonsense.

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    I guess after they ram this through and a bunch of Dems lose their seats, this will be even further evidence of how a majority of Americans want Obamacare.
    I think it would be funny if they did pass it with reconcilliation, then half the democrats lose their seats to republicans, and republicans then nullify their work next year.

    Wouldn't that be something?

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    There George the troll goes again. Keep ignoring polls. Keep ignoring town hall meetings. Keep ignoring the Massachusetts, Virginia and New Jersey elections, all 3 voted for Obama a year ago. Keep ignoring the dems themselves that can't pass this bill after 13 months. Keep ignoring the bribes Obama gave those who voted yes who would not have,Nebraska and Lousiana. Ignore the fact americans have rejected free health care for everyone throughout history. Ignore the 94 elections.

    It's past the point Obama is not listening. People's IQ's drop reading your dumbass takes. When november rolls around and the dems lose control of congress, Georgie the troll will be saying it's because whatever Obama tells him to say. They will ignore it then like they do now.

    I love the bull politics the dems are talking about the past two weeks. "Everyone in the polls want what we are presenting." Except they forget to mention, they don't want to pay for it. There are lots of things I want and say " yes " to all the questions that are asked. Then why don't I purchase, I can't afford it. Sleazy, sleazy politics is what is going on here. And Georgie the troll is spewing thier nonsense.
    sleazy politics? Hey dummy this has been going on for 200 years. Where have you been?

    should politicians govern based on day to day polling?

    have any politicians prior to 2010/2009 ever been rewarded for votes on certain pieces of legislation in the appropriation process?

    Simple yes or no questions.


    Let's see if jackie will answer them.

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    sleazy politics? Hey dummy this has been going on for 200 years. Where have you been?

    should politicians govern based on day to day polling?

    have any politicians prior to 2010/2009 ever been rewarded for votes on certain pieces of legislation in the appropriation process?

    Simple yes or no questions.


    Let's see if jackie will answer them.
    ing idiot. You are ignoring everything else. It's down to polls to you. That's all. Day to day polls at that. "NO" .Over 13 months "YES" .Should they pay attention to elections. YES. Should they pay attention town meetings YES. Should they pay attention to other elections. YES. Should they keep their promises YES. Should they take bribes. NO

    Keep on spewing dumbass. You make NO SENSE! Your troll does represents a few folks so keep him going. America does not want this bill. Sorry Georgie the troll.

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    ing idiot. You are ignoring everything else. It's down to polls to you. That's all. Day to day polls at that. "NO" .Over 13 months "YES" .Should they pay attention to elections. YES. Should they pay attention town meetings YES. Should they pay attention to other elections. YES. Should they keep their promises YES. Should they take bribes. NO

    Keep on spewing dumbass. You make NO SENSE! Your troll does represents a few folks so keep him going. America does not want this bill. Sorry Georgie the troll.
    See why I often just start belittling him?

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    See why I often just start belittling him?
    Dude has to be a troll. They are everywhere on this site. Noone is that ing dumb.

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    ing idiot. You are ignoring everything else. It's down to polls to you. That's all. Day to day polls at that. "NO" .Over 13 months "YES" .Should they pay attention to elections. YES. Should they pay attention town meetings YES. Should they pay attention to other elections. YES. Should they keep their promises YES. Should they take bribes. NO

    Keep on spewing dumbass. You make NO SENSE! Your troll does represents a few folks so keep him going. America does not want this bill. Sorry Georgie the troll.
    Polls to me? You keep telling everyone that the American people don't want it based polls you idiot... So you agree that politicians should not govern based on polls..game over dummy.

    I don't believe that the politicians should govern based on polls dummy..


    Now the President should govern based on state races?

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    Dude has to be a troll. They are everywhere on this site. Noone is that ing dumb.
    You forget, the school systems are getting "progressive"ly worse, year after years, since the Department of Education was signed into law by the friendliest liberal president ever. Jimmy Carter.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    You forget, the school systems are getting "progressive"ly worse, year after years, since the Department of Education was signed into law by the friendliest liberal president ever. Jimmy Carter.
    Well we've had 20 yrs of Republican in the White House so surely they would share some of the blame..wouldn't they?

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    Well we've had 20 yrs of Republican in the White House so surely they would share some of the blame..wouldn't they?
    Only if they micro manage the agency.

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    Only if they micro manage the agency.
    So President's aren't accountable during their terms. Got it.

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    Only if they micro manage the agency.
    Bush was quite proud of passing No Child Left Behind.

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    Polls to me? You keep telling everyone that the American people don't want it based polls you idiot... So you agree that politicians should not govern based on polls..game over dummy.

    I don't believe that the politicians should govern based on polls dummy..


    Now the President should govern based on state races?
    I can't go back and forth with you or this troll any longer. Sorry buddy, I'm done playing.

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    I can't go back and forth with you or this troll any longer. Sorry buddy, I'm done playing.
    Because you lost AGAIN.. run away sissy. It's always a pleasure kicking your ass. I look forward to doing it again real soon.

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    Bush was quite proud of passing No Child Left Behind.
    Conservatives are for local control for education. They don't like the Federal govt dictating un funded mandates.

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    Bush was quite proud of passing No Child Left Behind.
    Sure. I know that.

    Still, I find it so funny how democrats beat up on Bush (43) on the bill. Ted Kennedy was it's biggest advocate in the senate. It passed in the House 384-45. It passed in the senate 91-8. The final votes were 381-41 and 87-10. Yes votes in the house were 198 democrats and 183 republicans. No votes were 6 democrtas and 33 republicans.

    At least it was truly a bipartisan bill. Blame your congress members. Not president Bush.

    This was a case of congressional law. Not that of micro management by the president.

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    Conservatives are for local control for education. They don't like the Federal govt dictating un funded mandates.
    I don't call president Bush a conservative. He is more liberal than conservative.

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    Sure. I know that.

    Still, I find it so funny how democrats beat up on Bush (43) on the bill. Ted Kennedy was it's biggest advocate in the senate. It passed in the House 384-45. It passed in the senate 91-8. The final votes were 381-41 and 87-10. Yes votes in the house were 198 democrats and 183 republicans. No votes were 6 democrtas and 33 republicans.

    At least it was truly a bipartisan bill. Blame your congress members. Not president Bush.

    This was a case of congressional law. Not that of micro management by the president.
    It was micromanagement by the government supported by Republicans.

    I'll definitely blame Bush. I know you could never bring yourself to blame him for anything.

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    Because you lost AGAIN.. run away sissy. It's always a pleasure kicking your ass. I look forward to doing it again real soon.

    What is a win to you?

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    What is a win to you?
    Knowing what the nuclear option is probably counts.

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    Is there a GOP talking point on this health-care summit that has stood up to scrutiny yet? Wing-nut radio is focusing on Obama's 'lack of respect' for McCain for calling him John....



    You know when all they have is Faux outrage like that, they just got their asses handed to them...

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    ...a Wholly Owned Subsidiary of the Insurance Industry..


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    Is there a GOP talking point on this health-care summit that has stood up to scrutiny yet?
    Sure:

    "We can't afford the plan on the table."

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    At least at inception, it's budget neutral...

    Americans are fed up. Americans are tired of not only the GOP's efficient obstructionism but also with the Democrats who have allowed the minority to prevent government from working. Republicans were thrilled when Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts seat went to a Republican instead of a Democrat for the first time in decades. But they overlooked something very fundamental about the Brown win. A major part of Scott Brown's campaign platform included a promise that if they sent him to Washington, he would reach across the aisle to work with Democrats. And Massachusetts voters, like the rest of America would be, were delighted at the prospect of an elected representative who would actually go to Washington to work with his colleagues to serve the public interest.

    Republicans aren't paying attention. They are sifting through the information and picking the bits they want to believe and dismissing the bigger picture. Some tea baggers and many Republicans believe the GOP should become even more conservative than it already is. If there was anything to take away from the 23rd District election in New York, it is that the voters don't want a country that is even more conservative than it already is. The 23rd District of New York is notoriously conservative and they chose the Democrat over the ultra conservative Hoffman.

    What the GOP should have learned from the Scott Brown election is that voters want a representative who will work in Washington, one who will reach across the aisle to try to move the country forward. Instead they deemed the Brown win a win against health care reform. Their early elation at his election turned to outrage when Senator Brown had the nerve to allow a bill concerned with providing jobs to Americans to move forward. Senator Brown may have disappointed the obstructionist GOP collective but he is smarter than they are. He understands that the voters back home in Massachusetts want the person who represents them in Washington to actually work for them.

    Senator Chuck Grassley gave anecdotal evidence of what his cons uents wanted using as his proof, his experience over the summer of 2009 in town hall meetings. Half the people attending town hall meetings were bussed in from around the country. He seemed to honestly believe that the people who came to his town hall meetings and voiced their fears about death panels offered a true representations of the average American.

    When Republican Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming suggested that poor people buy catastrophic health insurance, it was shocking to realize he was in earnest. The man is so out of touch with the average American that one could almost feel sorry for him if it weren't for the fact that he was so genuinely devoid of compassion for people less fortunate than himself. In states like Alabama, catastrophic health insurance isn't an option for poor people or any people. But that's not the point. One of the reasons our country is ranked 37th in the nation by the World Health Organization is because of the high price of health care and lack of prophylactic care which leads to preventable deaths. One would think that Mr. Barrasso who has a degree in medicine would understand the importance of preventative medicine, something catastrophic health insurance isn't concerned with.

    It was never more clear than at yesterday's Health Care Summit that the Republican mantra of 'let's start over' is a stalling tactic when our nation is in the midst of a health care crisis that directly effects the economy. Republicans don't want health care reform. They probably hated it that President Obama invited them to an open Summit meeting where they would have to pretend to be interested in helping Americans who are in crisis. It was transparency in the truest sense. The GOP are so out of touch with the growing number of Americans in crisis that their feeble suggestions and compassionless speeches at the Summit were not only embarrassing for them but shocking to many Americans who watched the event. Never before have Republicans seemed to be so out of touch with the needs of the people they were elected to serve.
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