Where are all the Popologists tonight???

[elbamba]

Nice that we have garbage guys Pop can throw there. If anybody thinks they are saviours are ridiculous.

Nobody is stupid enough to see them as saviors, but they could be damn good role players to support the big 3. That is what the Spurs need, good role players to compliment their stars. Ian has shown again and again that he is better than KB, Bonner, Dice and Finley. The Spurs have gone small and spot 15 points every game. We then have to play catch up and with an old team, that is impossible.

It is really wierd how some people just don't grasp the concept that no one is asking pop to sit Duncan, Manu, Parker, Hill, Blair, Dice and Jefferson. We are asking Pop to use those players with Ian and Hairston. That is a sold 9 that could compete and run with the fast teams that wear down our vets and then run by them in a layup drill and open jump shot compe ion.

If we are going to lose, get something out of this season. Finley is done, if the Spurs resign him next year then they will lose fans. Bonner is done, h will not be on this team next year. KB is done, he wont be back either. We have real building blocks to put into place. If we draft right and get Splitter we could compete for a le next year. Lets face it, if Pop uses that starting lineup again, we are looking at a first round exit.

[Brazil]

This is stupid logic, how many Championships has Phil won without an All-Time Top 11 Player & great role players? Riley? Red?


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And you guys are ing idiots if you think Ian and Malik are the saviors. If Tony, Tim, Manu don't play at an All-Star level (at the same time) you're not going to do much in the post-season. Playing Ian and Malik might get you some more regular season wins but it'll be false hope. Role players are role players for a reason, they're not going to take over a game when hits the fan.

Nobody is saying Ian and Malik are saviors. Season seems to be over, play the young guys to develop them... why it's so hard to understand ?

[underdawg]

Nice that we have garbage guys Pop can throw there. If anybody thinks they are saviours are ridiculous.

saviours no - athletic and hungry yes

Do you doubt their energy and effort have a positive effect on the rest of the roster? They're "raw" and probably not the first choice of any coach given their experience, but as a fan I'd like to see players get a shot while other players are struggling.

[TJastal]

So true. Maybe they are a secrete meeting at Buffalo Wild wings formulating there response...

<snippet of conversation in between chewing sounds>

So, guys here's the situation... mmmm good wings can you pass the buffalo sauce? thanks.. we need to find something good Bogans did in the game.. something we can say hey off pop haters he's still a defensive stopper and better than Roger Mason....uh.. can you guys think of anything off hand? We need to keep selling the masses on his Bruce Bowen potential, because his offense isn't the greatest.. I need something here guys..

(pauses, waiting for answers.... nothing but chewing noises)

[The Truth #6]

This is stupid logic, how many Championships has Phil won without an All-Time Top 11 Player & great role players? Riley? Red?


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And you guys are ing idiots if you think Ian and Malik are the saviors. If Tony, Tim, Manu don't play at an All-Star level (at the same time) you're not going to do much in the post-season. Playing Ian and Malik might get you some more regular season wins but it'll be false hope. Role players are role players for a reason, they're not going to take over a game when hits the fan.

So given that the Big 3 aren't playing like All Stars and probably won't be together again, are you saying the window is over? Should we tank? What are you proposing?

[alchemist]

Nobody is saying Ian and Malik are saviors. Season seems to be over, play the young guys to develop them... why it's so hard to understand ?

There's 78 Million dollars on the line, you think Holt and his group will allow it? I don't.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Role players aren't asked to take over the game, What they can do is keep the ship afloat while the starters rest.

, even if the starers are struggling, they can even change the game with some key energy and hustle. No one is asking for Mahinmi and Hairston to get 40 minutes a night, but at least they contribute in a positive fashion. For the 100th time, Bogans, Finley and Bonner are doing zilch. You could bring middle school girls to play their positions and you'd still get the same result. For all the talk about the Spurs "depth" it's hilarious how Pop seems to find the worst lineups possible and run them into the ground with far too many minutes.

I honestly believe there are some fans on here who could easily come up with better lineups than Pop. Even when Phil Jackson had a ty Lakers team between 2005 through 2007, he still managed to push the WCF 2006 Suns to 7 games by actually COACHING.

[The Truth #6]

There's 78 Million dollars on the line, you think Holt and his group will allow it? I don't.

I don't know - Bogans is just as much a scrub as Hairston in the whole scheme of things. I don't see how Holt would have a fit with one more than the other, because as you said it all depends on the coordinated excellence of the Big 3, which isn't happening.

I wouldn't look at like developing anymore than realizing that most of our players suck and if we're going to use 20 different starting lineups, then clearly something isn't working, so why not try some young athletic players who know the system and who might help on defense, rather than getting out the calculator and trying to find how many mathematical ways there are to rearrange a staring lineup consisting of scrubs/role players like Finley, Masons, Bogans, and Bonner.

[Chomag]

There's 78 Million dollars on the line, you think Holt and his group will allow it? I don't.

Becuase Spurs are doing so well and are in great shape right now...

[alchemist]

I don't know - Bogans is just as much a scrub as Hairston in the whole scheme of things. I don't see how Holt would have a fit with one more than the other, because as you said it all depends on the coordinated excellence of the Big 3, which isn't happening.

I wouldn't look at like developing anymore than realizing that most of our players suck and if we're going to use 20 different starting lineups, then clearly something isn't working, so why not try some young athletic players who know the system and who might help on defense, rather than getting out the calculator and trying to find how many mathematical ways there are to rearrange a staring lineup consisting of scrubs/role players like Finley, Masons, Bogans, and Bonner.

I don't disagree that we should give the young guns some extended time but all it will do is provide some false hope, which I'm sure some folks around here will be satisfied with.

[alchemist]

Becuase Spurs are doing so well and are in great shape right now...

I like that Phil response

[Chomag]

I don't disagree that we should give the young guns some extended time but all it will do is provide some false hope, which I'm sure some folks around here will be satisfied with.

False hope that they may play well? Yep, can't let that happen.

Don't want to make Pop look stupid and all... Oh wait,I don't think he really needs that much help there right now.

[Obstructed_View]

It's also ridiculous to think that the Spurs are going to make any kind of deep playoff run with this roster. This year is lost. May as well see what you have at the end of the bench.

Put Manu and Duncan and a healthy Tony Parker with guys that have some ability and can defend like Hairston and Mahinmi and guys that always produce like Blair and Hill and ride vets like Dice and RJ when they're hot and I don't think there's a team in the league the Spurs are absolutely incapable of beating when they're playing with confidence.

[Obstructed_View]

Nobody is saying Ian and Malik are saviors. Season seems to be over, play the young guys to develop them... why it's so hard to understand ?

Okay, if by giving the Spurs a chance in the playoffs is saviours then maybe that's what I'm saying they are. It's funny how hustle and defense are contagious. It'd be nice to get Blair, Hill, Mahinmi and Hairston all getting enough minutes to infect everyone else with both. With the right mix of everyone that played last night they probably beat the Rockets by a significant margin. The only thing that might have kept it close is Houston's free throw percentage, but the Spurs would likely foul less with guys that defend the paint and grab rebounds.

[Obstructed_View]

saviours no - athletic and hungry yes

Do you doubt their energy and effort have a positive effect on the rest of the roster? They're "raw" and probably not the first choice of any coach given their experience, but as a fan I'd like to see players get a shot while other players are struggling.

Why do people keep saying that a guy who's been with the Spurs for five years and another guy who's been with the Spurs for two years are "raw"? There's a far better case to be made that any mistakes they make are more attributable to rust in most cases. Nobody with a pair of eyes and without an agenda can deny they can play.

[itzsoweezee]

They are waiting for timvp's opinion so they have theirs....

lol. so true

[alchemist]

False hope that they may play well? Yep, can't let that happen.

Don't want to make Pop look stupid and all... Oh wait,I don't think he really needs that much help there right now.

No you idiot, false hope as in people like you thinking they have any chance with a 2010 Parker/Tim/Manu.

[DMX7]

present.

[exstatic]

This just might be the first time we have seen Pop with not a good team. Half ass coaching just doesn't cut it when you don't have the luxury of having certain players in their prime.

I wonder how man rings he would have had, had Spurs not been able to get TD in the draft and been lucky with Manu, Tony, and bowen. I guess we will never really know. However watching this season especially, makes one wonder.

Pssst. Phil Jackson lost twice in the first round (2006,2007) to Suns teams we spanked easily, with only Kobe. Good coaching can't overcome a mediocre roster.

[exstatic]

Nobody is saying Ian and Malik are saviors. Season seems to be over, play the young guys to develop them... why it's so hard to understand ?

Because if you develop Ian at this point, he gets snatched? Why is THAT so hard to understand?

[Chomag]

I like that Phil response

I think Phil might be a bit overated himself and he could be exploited soon as he was when Chicago lost MJ. And I'm wondering how even Phil got into this. I never even said his name anywhere only you were the one that brought his name up. So I'm a bit confused on how I made a Phil response?

[FeZZy]

antiboss

[TimDunkem]

Because if you develop Ian at this point, he gets snatched? Why is THAT so hard to understand?

Why didn't they pick up his option then?

[Chomag]

This is stupid logic, how many Championships has Phil won without an All-Time Top 11 Player & great role players? Riley? Red?


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And you guys are ing idiots if you think Ian and Malik are the saviors. If Tony, Tim, Manu don't play at an All-Star level (at the same time) you're not going to do much in the post-season. Playing Ian and Malik might get you some more regular season wins but it'll be false hope. Role players are role players for a reason, they're not going to take over a game when hits the fan.

Again, I never even brought the Man up.

[Chomag]

Because if you develop Ian at this point, he gets snatched? Why is THAT so hard to understand?

Spurs didn't pick up his option. Even if this was so why in the world would Ian want to play for someone who would be trying to low-ball him?