When has Tim ever said anything negative about a teammate? Current or former?
A thought regarding Mason chasing a "big" contract - Mason is probably hoping to get somewhere over 2 million a year in a contract. Finley was getting almost 20 million a year from Cuban. I think think Mason's reason is more valid in my opinion. He's just trying to have a career. Finley is bandwagoning, and because he's made WAY too much money for what he's produced, it allows him to jump ship to a contender and try to get another ring.
LOL. That's as CIA as it gets.
I don't doubt that it's all true. It's just that Pop comes off smelling like roses while someone else comes up with the dirty laundry.
Good thoughts, but I just can't reconcile the fact that he'd just want to chase a ring knowing that this city and team celebrated the most coveted achievement in his career in 2007. If anything, this post-season has the potential to be the most compe ive and uncertain for the top contenders...there are no guarantees for anyone, IMHO. Why desert us now? He didn't need playing time, he just needed to be a good influence for the new guys and whatever happens, happens...although Pop was adamant when the season began that Finley "earned" his minutes. Blah...
@bout Mason: I can't blame the dude for wanting playing time, he has a contract he needs to secure and if he doesn't think the Spurs will re-sign him, he DOES need to find some place to display his skills before the next contract. It's his career, and if he is going to play in the NBA someone needs to see what he can do instead of just being in Pop's dog house.
I guess I must have been hallucinating when I saw players disagreeing with Popovich during games. But since you said so, it must be gospel truth.
Haven't you even considered that maybe Duncan might have already formed his own opinion on Finley?(whether he's correct or not is not my point)
In your haste to blame everything on Popovich, you're actually making wilder and wilder accusations that make Don Quixote look sane by comparison.
Not saying anything negative vs "because he’s the best. He’s awesome.” is quite a difference.
I'm sure we agree Aggie, Duncan hurt his legacy big time by allowing all the chicken Popped has allowed to go on since 2006 Round 1.
No repeat, wasted MVP efforts. Mrs. FinleyPops marriage at the heart of the matter. Tim condoned it all.
In retrospect 2007 was an exception, not what should have been a continuing DuncanSpurs rule.
We're still waiting T_Park, anakha, Aglowko, Humpy etc all the Pop sniffing Apologists.
Whether or not Duncan has his own opinion about Finley is irrelevant, the point I was making was that he clearly went overboard with all the smarmy compliments. Which indicates he may have been afraid to say what he was really thinking/feeling, and I wonder why.....I guess I must have been hallucinating when I saw players disagreeing with Popovich during games. But since you said so, it must be gospel truth.
Haven't you even considered that maybe Duncan might have already formed his own opinion on Finley?(whether he's correct or not is not my point)
In your haste to blame everything on Popovich, you're actually making wilder and wilder accusations that make Don Quixote look sane by comparison.
:gregg popovich
I'm glad he's gone, but I don't blame him for asking for more minutes.
He's seeing from the front row what we see, Pop trotting out Bogans night after night. He's probably thinking, "I can clang 3 pointers better than that!"
I'm surprised there aren't more guys complaining. Notice, how the complaints about playing time are coming from our veteran 2 guards. If you believe the guys in front of you are better, it's easier to swallow the low/no playing time, but if you don't, you start questioning the coach's decisions.
So disagreeing with you = me saying Pop is all-knowing?
We're still waiting T_Park, anakha, Aglowko, Humpy etc all the Pop sniffing Apologists.
What a moron.
How do buyouts work? I'm slowly getting more familiar with the league rules and the financial side of things. I'd appreciate the input. Thanks!
Oh and I hope Finley realizes his best chance to play was with the Spurs. I'm glad he is gone and Pop no longer can look down at the bench and see him. If Pop had given up on PT for Fin.. what makes him think he can get PT with a legit contender!?
very good point, didn't think about that
i guess it wasn't mason after all
Like a rat jumping off a ship......
In your haste to blame everything on Popovich, you're actually making wilder and wilder accusations that make Don Quixote look sane by comparison.Pop should certainly bear the brunt of the criticism for his man love with the washed up locker room cancer named Finley.7. How ignorant is Pop? He talks about chemistry issues in the locker room, when his golden child was at the heart of the complaining about PT camp (with no legitimate reason for doing so - i.e., he was sucking when on the court).
Buyouts represent an exchange between a player and a team. The player gives up some or all of the remaining salary guaranteed in his contract in exchange for his release from the team.
In Finley's case, he had approximately 600K remaining on his 2.5M contract for this season. Presumably, he gave up that 600K in order to get his release before the March 1st deadline that will allow him to sign with another NBA team AND be on their playoff roster.
The Spurs, we assume, will save that 600K and another 600K in luxury tax. They will not be able to keep all of that savings as they will have to sign another player to meet the minimum roster size of 13 players.
As to Finley's chances of getting PT with one of the top teams in the NBA, it would seem unlikely. Boston makes some sense as their reserve wings, Tony Allen and Marquis Daniels, aren't 3 point threats. Then again, since his return Finley hasn't shown that he remains an outside shooting threat. Maybe he just didn't want to spend his last two months in the NBA racking up DNP-CDs and this allowed him to exit in a way more to his liking.
Sure, he deserves criticism for overplaying Finley.
Blaming Pop for Duncan being complimentary about Finley is more than tilting at windmills.
Wow, now I look at him a lot differently
Looks like someone's Popologist feathers are all ruffled up.
I just said he deserves criticism for overplaying Finley. How is that being a Popapologist?Looks like someone's Popologist feathers are all ruffled up.
Keep digging yourself deeper.
lol wanting more playing time
lolololol finley....
tp manu
That's harsh. Let's not go revisionist history here. Finley was a pretty damn good piece in 2007- nothing like the All Star of earlier in his career- but certainly more than a coat-tailing bench guy who barely contributed. He had his moments in the clutch as well.
Don't get me wrong...he is done, and I'm glad he's gone... but don't over minimalize his contibution to the 07 championship. Very disappointing to see a guy like that with a career like his end his time with the Spurs under these cir stances.
That being said, it's a good thing for the team and the fans that it ended in this fashion. No way in Pop pulls that trigger on his own.
Probably the most disappointing post I've read from you Timvp.
The guy played his heart out in the 2006 playoffs, and was pivotal in the 2007 campaign. How you blame him for the last two years' flameouts I have no idea, but it wasn't Fin's reign that sunk the ship.
He's at the end of his career; why should he have to suffer at the end of the bench in San Antonio?
Popovich from all accounts was sad to see him go, and if he was 'whining', wouldn't they have parted ways before yesterday?
The truly sad part of this affair was that we have been defined as a non-contending team. Put that on Popovich, Buford, and Holt...not Michael Finley.
Agreed, too much haterade on Finley. He's been a punching bag ever since he got here whether its people complaining that he has too many minutes, the fact that he has a roster spot, or now where he asked to leave.
Finley acted like a professional throughout and with Mason Jr. complaining about minutes he wasn't going to get 'em here. And with the Spurs in the 7th spot in the playoffs and being a first round exit last year; the chance of a ring this season looks dim as well.
That guy is a character alright
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