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    "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." - Emerson

    Agreed, which is why I was so infuriated that so many people thought it was a virtue when Bush kept saying he was going to stay the course. It is only a virtue if you made a correct decision, but you must constantly question your own tough decisions and look at them from all angles to make sure that you are on the correct path.

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    Bunning sponsored about $70 million in earmarks the past couple of fiscal years.

    I guess those were all incredibly important and added nothing to the deficit.

    This is grandstanding.

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    I was once cavalier and irresponsible with my money; had I continued being that way, I couldn't enjoy the fruits of being prudent for over a decade now.

    People can change; if it is for the better, it is always welcomed.
    , even if he hasn't changed, if this is one isolated incident of doing something right, that that little bit of good has come from him. I am in no way advocating holding him up as some cult-hero in any regard. I am, however, elevating his thought process in this instance to clut-hero status. I would greatly appreciate it if he continues along this path, but know that it is unlikely.

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    ... or right-wing partisan playbook, whatever, same response no matter what letter is after their name and before their state.
    True. Cobra Commander, Yanni, et al provide plenty such examples in this forum.

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    Bunning sponsored about $70 million in earmarks the past couple of fiscal years.

    I guess those were all incredibly important and added nothing to the deficit.

    This is grandstanding.

    For whom . . . To what end??? If it is, illogically, grandstanding at least this grandstanding correlates to what is right for once. It is pretty cool that he is enforcing a recently passed rule/law instead of letting it die immediately after it was passed.

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    $700B in military waste, surely $10B could be found?

    nah, Americans, let 'em rot in The Banksters Depression.

    America is a war-loving, kick-ass killing machine.

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    Politics is grandstanding.

    And if a politician is going to be a hypocrite, as long as it's for greater fiscal discipline, who cares? Spending is going to have to be cut and taxes are going to have to go up to deal with the deficit and debt. This same scenario is playing out as Obama is having to backpedal from his income tax pledge during the campaign.

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    What was the final tally on Bush-Chaney War cost?
    Off all the waste that goes on in DC, you're down with lets stop UI payments.

    How about stopping a bunch of the other b.s. wasted tax dollars, not *taking a stand* on UI people.

    Let me guess. Kentucky has a lot of unem tobacco workers since slowly but surely the b.s. that is tobacco is losing strength? Or have they conned and bribed enough 3rd world countries into buying their so profits remain the same? Course those smokes must be made over there, right?
    BushHaliburtonKatrinaCheneyHitler

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    For the Republican party
    To what end???
    Partisan hackery. It's an easy stance to take when there are no consequences.
    If it is, illogically, grandstanding at least this grandstanding correlates to what is right for once. It is pretty cool that he is enforcing a recently passed rule/law instead of letting it die immediately after it was passed.
    Go back and look at all the deficit spending he did vote for in his career. Bunning didn't even bother to show up for the TARP vote in January 09. That was after voting FOR the original TARP in 08.

    That vote he didn't bother to show up for was worth 35 times the money involved in the legislation he is holding up.

    Oh, now he cares.

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    Or, now the country cares. Perhaps.

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    This is Repug party obstructionism, not just Bunning.

    Bunning isn't running again, so he can't be punished for this crap.

    The Repugs got clobbered electorally after the they obstructed and shutdown Clinton's govt.

    I'm sure the Repugs have put Bunning up to this obstruction, while hiding and putting out the spin that Bunning is his own man, not really a litmus-tested badass Repug, always going his own way, the Repugs won't get clobbered for screwing over unemployed.

    Another Repug asshole this week said unemployment pay keeps people from finding work, ignoring the fact that there are 6 seekers for every job offered, and that foreclosures and bankdruptcies are now being driven by people with solid credit but no jobs. So they'd rather be foreclosed and bankrupt rather than employed? GMAFB

    The Repugs are truly repugnant cretins, with the country's and Americans' interest well behind their own nasty politicking, obstructionist bull .
    That's not why he's blocking the legislation.

    Just after the PayGo is reimplemented, he is blocking this because democrats want to violate the PayGo that the so fiercely fought for.

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    $700B in military waste, surely $10B could be found?

    nah, Americans, let 'em rot in The Banksters Depression.

    America is a war-loving, kick-ass killing machine.
    If Dems were anywhere near the organization level of the Repubs, they could turn this fiasco into political gain.

    But Dems are only used to winning when defeat is nigh impossible. See '08.

    Then see Nov '10.

    Dems arent heavy-weights, they havent been in my lifetime. They lack cohesion and in my mind, common sense. They basically win offices around the country with trite slogans about how bad the current guy is, how much better I would be and racial pandering.

    Dems have exhibited the most ineffective governance in 2 years than all of Bush's 8.

    Seriously, if I were a Democrat right now, I'd be hiding in the shadows. Majorities in every branch for almost a year (almost), a filibuster-proof Senate and what the have they done with it?

    The same thing they have done for their constiuents and ardent supporters...not one God damn thing.

    Blame it on whomever you want, but thats the truth. Obama is turning out to be one giant failure, so far (caveat). He cant unite his own party much less reach aroun..I mean, reach across the aisle.

    Is the Senator grandstanding?

    Most certainly. Every politician is a career grandstander, that goes without saying.

    Is his cause merited, is the question. Dont know. Unemployment benefits, contrary to popular opinion, are not paid by employees, theyre paid by employers.

    It varies state to state, but this being a Federal issue, it deals with the FUTA tax (i assume).

    Also, I find it disingenuous that this "one guy from KY" is the sole reason for non-passage. Unless of course the Senate can block legislation when the vote is 1-99.

    Why is he being targeted? As I understand it, he is a lame duck Senator anyway? Doesnt seem the appropriate target to aim for if youre the Dems. That or, once again, the Dems are too stupid to see the setup. Rabid animals with no common sense, I tell ya.

    The Senator is asking that the government find $10B somewhere to extend the benefits.

    WTF is so wrong with that?

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    Or, now the country cares. Perhaps.
    Yes, we in secessionist Texas now care deeply about the debt....










    ....after we took our $17 billion cut of the stimulus and used it to balance our budget.

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    So would it have been a problem if someone held up that transfer to TX, given a certain history with earmarks?

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    Take the crack rock away and they cry.


    Poor crack babies. Gotta kick the habit at some point.




    disclaimer: Crack being spending, they being government. /No racist

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    So would it have been a problem if someone held up that transfer to TX, given a certain history with earmarks?
    And a history of voting a $700 billion increase in the debt on the guesstimate of a cabinet member, sure.

    We act like we care, but we don't. We like our politicians to act like they care as well.

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    Bunning is grandstanding today, and apparantely back when the democrats were pushing for paygo that was nothing but a bunch of grandstanding as well.

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    It's reached the point where we will have to care. Perhaps it will take a big enough increase in interest rates to get everyone's attention.

    If an alcoholic goes a day without a drink, it's a start. It's odd that continuing the behavior is now preferable to making a change.

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    Take the crack rock away and they cry.


    Poor crack babies. Gotta kick the habit at some point.
    Yes, refuse the gram after taking a few kilos (I know they don't measure it that way, but drugs is drugs).

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    For the Republican party Partisan hackery. It's an easy stance to take when there are no consequences.Go back and look at all the deficit spending he did vote for in his career. Bunning didn't even bother to show up for the TARP vote in January 09. That was after voting FOR the original TARP in 08.

    That vote he didn't bother to show up for was worth 35 times the money involved in the legislation he is holding up.

    Oh, now he cares.
    ... and I am glad he does.

    Maybe the just passed PayGo won't be a complete waste if there are one or two senators (from either party) who treats it as more than a political decoration.

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    It's reached the point where we will have to care. Perhaps it will take a big enough increase in interest rates to get everyone's attention.
    That's going to happen anyway.

    If an alcoholic goes a day without a drink, it's a start. It's odd that continuing the behavior is now preferable to making a change.
    Bunning and the rest of us will go right back to the same behavior.

    As long as we get ours.

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    ... and I am glad he does.
    But he doesn't.

    Maybe the just passed PayGo won't be a complete waste if there are one or two senators (from either party) who treats it as more than a political decoration.
    It will be a complete waste.

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    Sure, it will happen, but what's wrong with getting a start on the response?

    And wishing for a return to normalcy doesn't mean it will happen.

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    Yes, refuse the gram after taking a few kilos (I know they don't measure it that way, but drugs is drugs).
    Um, I have to make sure that I get this straight. Because he voted for deficit spending, he is disallowed (in your opinion) from voting for fiscal responsibility. Is that correct? If so, then we are truely screwed because every single one of them has voted for deficit spending. And since every single one of them has voted for deficit spending at one time or another, then they are not allowed to vote for fiscal dicipline anymore. To take that further, even if we replaced every single one of them with new people who have never voted for or against a bill, the still wouldn't be allowed to vote for fiscal discipline because it is very likely that at some point in their life, they have used a credit card, or borrowed a few bucks from a friend or family member. , I am sure I borrowed a quarter from a buddy to get to a vending machine before I was 7.

    It seems that toddlers are our only hope for the Senate/House/Presidency, as they are the only ones who are untainted.

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    Sure, it will happen, but what's wrong with getting a start on the response?
    The time to start was ten years ago. Was Bunning holding up $10 billion bills back then? He has been in the federal government since 1989.

    And wishing for a return to normalcy doesn't mean it will happen.
    Deficit spending is the norm. We're already there.

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