rooting for a winning team does not make you any smarter ...
but it does gicve you insight and perspective ...
you also raise your standards after winning a le ...it's why the spurs fans here are so hard on POP, RJ etc.
once you EXPECT to win you demand greatness
when you havent won you put up division and conference chamipionship banners ...
Last edited by Killakobe81; 03-02-2010 at 03:59 PM.
The ? I'm willing to bet that some random Bobcat or Grizzlies fan has more 'insight' and 'perspective' than 90% of laker fans.
Is this doublespeak?
If you get "insight" and "perspective" by watching people you've never met win a championship then so does everyone else who watched the same playoffs you watched.
PS - They're nationally televised games, so that means everyone in the country has access to the same thing you claim gives Lakers fans insight and perspective.
Probably, considering most LA fans live outside of Cali, have never seen Staples, and have been "diehards" for about 4-5 years max.
It's funny Laker/Spurfan has to put this before basically saying it does make you smarter because deep down they know how stained, stupid and moronic it would be to actually say it makes you smarter.
Have any of you ever applied for a job and said, "Since I'm a Lakers fan I have more insight and perspective than the average person," according to the above post it would be perfectly logical to do so.
that's what i meant by doublespeak brah
Gasol's been on the team that long now?
Yeah I know, I was pointing out that having to put that qualifier in there before basically contradicting it shows that Lakers and Spurs fans know how stupid it is to think cheering for a team with championships makes you smarter.
You guys can poke fun if you want ...
So you guys don't agree that playing on a losing team does not breed bad habits? That you may start to play more selfishly work less hard and take shortcuts?
Same way rooting for a losing team seeps in to the culture you expect the worst, blame the refs, come up with conspiracy theories etc ...
INSIGHT and PERSPECTIVE are not THE SAME ...INSIGHT just means you see winning you are sround winning you read quotes from winners, you read interviews by WINNERS ...
Those that say you don't gain any insight from CLOSELY following a team would probably argue that watching reality trash TV doesnt kill any brain cells or watching 60 mins or CNN doesnt provide any "insight"
The perspective you come with when you root for a le team is that you realize that al that time you spend watching, posting on sites like these there is a payoff... OF COURSE the fanbase that is ripping my post will say it means nothing to root for a winner ...how WOULD THEY KNOW?
Last edited by Killakobe81; 03-02-2010 at 04:18 PM.
I do agree. That'd be relevant if anyone in this thread played for a losing or winning team.
As for me I have been watcing the Lakers since 1980 ...most of you noobs on here believe the NBA started and ended with Mike ...
SOME of you started in the LAST decade so not put me in the same class with the bandwagon laker fans ... I was here before Kobe will be there after Kobe my cast was set when Magic put on the greatest NBA Finals performance ever against the SIXERS ...that was the FIRST NBA game I ever watched ... and Magic was and still is my favorite player of all time ...
I was at Staples for 2000 WCF
I was there when the Lakers lost at the AT&T on Mason's jumper
I was there in the playoffs when the lakers were swept by Utah (FORUM)
Magic johnson's retirement ceremony
Kobe's breaking Jerry West's record in memphis ...
Lakers vs Blazers in 1982
I could go on ...but don't ever question my dedication to my squad ...I stayed with them through the 90's when we sucked ...
Yet you didn't bother to join this site until a week after the Gasol trade.
I went to suns website after the Horry incident ...don't TELL me (even though i agree they got screwed) was a result of a "losing culture" ...
Or that the Spurs ESPECIALLY after duncan's 3 a few years back did not gain a mental edge ...I
don't believe the current Suns players OR FANBASE even believe you guys can beat a Duncan led Spur team ...
How many posters on here said JR's miss was part of the "spur curse" ...AGAIN loser's mentality ...
another example some Lakers fans (casual)are scared of the Blazers think we should be worried if we meet 1st round ...
BUT the real fans know come playoffs WE OWN the Blazers EVEN when they have the better team.
Magic upset them in 1990 and lakers kept them at bay last decade ...but you get that from being around winning ...something many here ihave no clue about ...
Don't break your back grasping for all those straws, IMHO.
Being a fan of a certain team doesn't improve your basketball knowledge, sorry.
nope I posted on my own team's fan site but had been watching this site since THE FIRST PISTONS le (in 2000's)...and started viewing heavily when the spurs and Pistons fanbases were gong back and forth ...
All the pising and moaning ABOUT the trade is what MADE me decide to join ...
I also listen to the local sports talk in San antonio as well and occasionally dilaed in BEFORE we had Gasol ... I have been going back in forth with Spur fans since Derek Fisher's 3 pointer ...
Never said that perspective and insight genius ...learn to read ...
Fans of teams with multiple championships have higher standards of team success than other fans.
Seems like that's the only thing that's close to being true among the points discussed in this thread.
i read your doublespeak just fine, shut the up. being a laker fan doesn't make you understand what it takes to win better than fans of other fanbases or something. quit trying to pretend that being a laker fan makes you somehow superior without actually saying it
Anyway I appreciate the debate ...just make sure you don't mistake whta I said ...
I don't speak for ALL Laker fans but to say that watching and closely following a team that is about winning doesnt have an effect is short-sighted.
To say that a losing fanbase cant be intelligent about basketball is ignorant as well.
The OP was moaning that the champion fanbase think they know more and Im not saying they do but you do have access to better players, better coaching, better play-calling and better fron-office management.
Every le team has all of teh aove ...being around that even in the stands or watching on TV has an effect whether you want to admit or not ...
You live in San Antonio and I live in Phoenix. What access do you have to the Lakers that I don't have?
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