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Finley's exit wound
By Buck Harvey
Gregg Popovich won't hold a grudge over this. But it's likely he also won't hold the same high regard he once had for Michael Finley.
What Popovich said -- and didn't say Monday night -- suggests that.
Last edited by timvp; 03-17-2010 at 06:48 AM.
looks like Harvey reads timvp posts..
Another take that you won't hear in the press is that Finley wants another ring and he does not believe the Spurs can compete whether he plays or not.
Wow. It seems it's impossible for any sportswriter on earth to publish an article that isn't immediately followed by someone claiming all of the info in it was stolen from Spurstalk.
Lets not forget that Finley only came here to win a ring and make the most of his last years to reach championship goals. On another tangent, wasn't he still getting paid by Cuban when he won his first ring?
Mason Jr. wanted minutes and had minor media attention about it, Theo was traded and is getting minutes in CHA, and now Finley left for minutes and the chance to get another ring.
It'd be hard for any old roleplayer to turn down an opportunity to play on a top team. Unfortunately the Spurs don't look like one right now; whether its being a first round exit last year or 7th in the incredibly compe ive West now.
NBA is a game about business and "what have you done for me lately"? For Finley and the Spurs, the answer is "not enough". This kind of mentality is why the Spurs will let Ginobili be a free agent next season.
He's right...
...and he'd be correct, too.
This story gets keeps getting better and better.
So much for the "consummate professional" and "class act" tags that most here have hung around his neck.
If true, this cons utes bad faith on the part of Finley and his agent.
Conversations with teammates or approaching management to register a concern about PT are one thing. Having your agent test the waters with competing franchises while still under contract is quite another. That's just bad conduct no matter how you slice it.
I know there's a tampering rule about talking to players currently under contract about their upcoming free agency. Is there a similar rule about players who are potentially being waived within the season? I imagine it's not kosher by the rules, and at the very least is a gray area.
Lol @ Tony ventilating whatever his teammates say to him……
pop is freaking naive to have these love affairs with all these old guys. we keep them around because they are supposed to be leaders and "have gotten over themselves" when in fact they're as big of prima donnas as anyone else...
give me some younger headcase that can play over these old guys who think they "deserve" to play.
94. What is tampering?
Tampering is when a player or team directly or indirectly entices, induces or persuades anybody (player, general manager, etc.) who is under contract with another team to negotiate for their services. The NBA takes tampering very seriously and may impose stiff penalties if it is discovered, however the league will not investigate unless another team files tampering charges. Here are some examples:
* The Miami Heat were discovered to have tampered with Pat Riley in 1995 by negotiating with Riley while he was still head coach of the New York Knicks. The Heat "settled," and avoided league-imposed penalties, by compensating the Knicks with $1 million and their first round draft pick in 1996.
* After Will Perdue left San Antonio in the 1999 offseason to sign with Chicago, he commented to the press about the possibility of the Bulls signing Tim Duncan and/or Grant Hill in 2000. The league considered this to be tampering, and issued Perdue a warning.
You may have noticed that when general managers and other team personnel talk to the press, they are careful to avoid talking about specific players who play for other teams. They do this in order to avoid tampering.
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I doubt the Spurs would bring up tampering charges, and might not even have ground to stand on since they willingly waived Finley. However, even if the player's agent initiates the discussion, anything the team says can basically be considered tampering, and the NBA takes any tampering very seriously.
Like I said, I don't think anything will come of it (don't hold your breath for a first round draft pick), but I wouldn't be surprised if the NBA at least sends a stern warning letter to Finley's agent.
Wonder how Pop feels now that his wonderboy basically cheated on him behind his back?
You guys never let anything go, do you?
He's gone.
Be happy for once.
I'll say it again. Pop and RC were damn fools for not using Finley's expiring contract in a deal that would've produced either Tyrus Thomas, John Salmons or both. They simply should've gotten rid of Finley's ass at the trade deadline. Chances are Chicago would've simply cut him and he could've been free to sign with whomever he wanted. Pop only has himself to blame for this fiasco.
It's only a fiasco in your mind.
The Spurs want the expiring contracts to expire.
he's the last guy you should tell a secret to
Yeah it's obvious now. There is a complete about face to the 2-year offseason championship-upgrade strategy that has failed miserably, so far.
However, upgrading the talent level at a reasonable cost should always be in vogue.
Maybe this will galvanize the team...feeling like people bailing on you could create a "bunker" mentality and bring the remaining group closer...yeah, I'm reaching...
"Still, Parker admitted Finley had come to him about his concerns, just as Bowen had, except Finley was more direct. He wanted out."
Oh WOW! The more and more as this story unfolds the more and more Finley is looking bad. Just as my respect and high opinions of him are going down the tube...
So the answer isn't spending more money.
It's easy to declare a cost reasonable when it isn't your money.However, upgrading the talent level at a reasonable cost should always be in vogue.
The answer is making wise personnel decisions.
And you're right, it's not my money. I'm just a lowly fan, playing armchair GM. And I still contend a low-cost trade investment to upgrade the talent level for next year would've served them well.
Well duh.
Right. You'd probably be a more realistic armchair GM if you considered the financial situation of the Spurs and the NBA.And you're right, it's not my money. I'm just a lowly fan, playing armchair GM.
The about face isn't the shocking part of it. They tried it and it didn't work.
The problem I have is instead of shoring up depth, they relegate to saving pennies. That is good for business in general but bad for NBA ownership. Other owners such Buss, Cuban and the Grousbecks really don't let a little tax bill stand in the way of staying compe ive.
Their franchises make more money.
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