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    The great depression.
    The Japanese depression of the 90's.
    The Brazilian depression of the 80' and 90's.

    Now you tell me what other approach has actually been used and worked to get out of a recession/depression?
    FDR's policies actually EXTENDED the depression - it took the war to get us out.

    Ever heard of the "lost decade" in Japan? That was during the time you say they were spending to help their economy.

    Maybe you should check some more sources...

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    "during the time you say they were spending to help their economy." Economists say Japan started it 90s too late, and it was too small. Was held up as an example for the US not to be timid or slow in its own stimulus. "Maybe you should check some more sources..".

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    Well, the demonrats got it passed. They reneged on the Pay Go that they insist on following.

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    FDR's policies actually EXTENDED the depression - it took the war to get us out.
    Did we cut costs going to war, or spent even MORE money?
    Like a load more money?

    Ever heard of the "lost decade" in Japan? That was during the time you say they were spending to help their economy.
    That's correct. You don't grow in a recession. You try to get out of it.

    Maybe you should check some more sources...
    Maybe you need to educate yourself more on economics instead of regurgitating what you heard on Fox News.

    I'm going to repeat the question, since you avoided it too:

    Now you tell me what other approach has actually been used and worked to get out of a recession/depression?

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    These people have already gotten almost 100 weeks of unemployment benefits! At this point, it's not unemployment, it's welfare. And many of these people don't even want to find a job - they're sitting on their fat, lazy behinds and taking the taxpayer's money.
    "These people...." How many? C'mon...try to squeeze out a thought here.
    This is one of the most spectacularly vapid statements I've ever read. Apply just a smidgen of critical thought before you post...just for grins. You might like it. This must be a boutons troll.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...n_N.htm?csp=34
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    Geez - I don't even know you, and you don't know me. Ever thought of anger management? I feel sorry for those people who resort to vulgar language because they're not intelligent enough to get their point across any other way.
    the point i'm trying to make is that you're a vapid .

    the people you idolize were in control when this thing crashed and the "people" you call fat and lazy paid into the system. thats what its for, you stupid .

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    Employees don't pay into unemployment insurance - their employers do. And extending benefits to people who've already gotten about 99 weeks of payments just encourages laziness. And I've heard of companies that have openings, but some of the people who apply aren't really interested in being hired, they just want to prove they're "still looking" for work so they can continue to get unemployment.

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    Employees don't pay into unemployment insurance - their employers do.
    i know how benefits work, dip .
    And extending benefits to people who've already gotten about 99 weeks of payments just encourages laziness.
    such a broad stroke from a dumb .
    And I've heard of companies that have openings, but some of the people who apply aren't really interested in being hired, they just want to prove they're "still looking" for work so they can continue to get unemployment.
    you're full of .

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    crookshanks obviously has no idea what he is talking about. if we were to believe dumb dumb then we would have to accept that people are ok with living off 30% of their salary prior to losing thier job. They must now get by on 30% but crookshanks wants everyone to believe that this is the choice poeople have made... "Hey I'm down to 800 bucks a month with 2,000 bills due..I'm livin g it up!! Woohoo!"

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    crookshanks obviously has no idea what he is talking about. if we were to believe dumb dumb then we would have to accept that people are ok with living off 30% of their salary prior to losing thier job. They must now get by on 30% but crookshanks wants everyone to believe that this is the choice poeople have made... "Hey I'm down to 800 bucks a month with 2,000 bills due..I'm livin g it up!! Woohoo!"
    No . I drew UI for a month and a half a couple of years ago. It ain't anywhere near workable.

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    crookshanks obviously has no idea what he is talking about. if we were to believe dumb dumb then we would have to accept that people are ok with living off 30% of their salary prior to losing thier job. They must now get by on 30% but crookshanks wants everyone to believe that this is the choice poeople have made... "Hey I'm down to 800 bucks a month with 2,000 bills due..I'm livin g it up!! Woohoo!"
    No, he's right. If a person was well employed before a layoff, they can live OK on the maximum benefits, and it takes a job at about 2 times the minimum wage to beat the benefits. These same people find work right after those benefits run out.

    I have done so myself in the past when I was less responsible than today. Didn't find an adequate job that beat my benefits, but once they ran out, I took a job again. After deductions, my net pay was slightly less than my unemployment benefits, and I was not working full time vs. 0 hrs a week.

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    just because you're a lazy piece of doesn't mean everyone is.

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    No . I drew UI for a month and a half a couple of years ago. It ain't anywhere near workable.
    Well, when I drew unemployment and waited for a good job again, it was almost $300 a week, and my rent was $700/month. This was almost 20 years ago. I simply couldn't find a job that paid $287(?) a week after taxes. They weren't available. However, I would have taken any job if I had no unemployment benefits. There were many lower paying jobs available.

    Why take a job that pays $350 a week after taxes when you can get $287 sitting on your ass, not have to pay for gas to and from work, and lunches?

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    just because you're a lazy piece of doesn't mean everyone is.
    That's just it. I was lazy and discouraged enough to do it, and I am far less lazy than the average person out there.

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    What are maximum unemployment benifits today? I haven't a clue. They are probably above $500 weekly now. Anyone know? Am I right?

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    I still haven't seen a good answer for why the extension can't be paid out of unspent stimulus funds.

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    I still haven't seen a good answer for why the extension can't be paid out of unspent stimulus funds.
    Don't you know?

    The democrats have already promised it to their elitist friends.

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    wc was raised on welfare and then continued to milk the system as an adult.

    you're a quality guy.

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    wc was raised on welfare and then continued to milk the system as an adult.

    you're a quality guy.
    he doesn't want anyone to abuse it now!

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    wc was raised on welfare and then continued to milk the system as an adult.

    you're a quality guy.
    At least I'm not you.

    You must live a really pathetic life.

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    he doesn't want anyone to abuse it now!
    We all grow and change our ways. If you think otherwise, then I pity you.

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    We all grow and change our ways. If you think otherwise, then I pity you.
    hey man I will give you credit for being honest!

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    Ok, so I just googled "what percentage does unemployment pay" because I didn't believe it was 33% (one website said it was between 48% and 52%.) and the very first link I clicked on was a site where a guy said he was probably going to be laid off and wanted to know if he should go get a job, or just collect unemployment, but he wanted to gauge how much money he would make.

    This is not an uncommon thing people. If you are receiving unemployment benefits for 2 years, it just means that you are pulling an ashbeigh (or however its spelled) and waiting for the perfect perfect job that pays exactly what you want on everyone elses dime. I have read many articles about people who were ad execs that are now delivering pizza during the evening because they can't find work in their industry. Rather than waiting for the perfect job, they are getting out there, and working, while still seeking other employment.

    Oh, and it also gives one experience in another field. If some ambitious ad exec starts delivering pizza, they are probably going to get promoted rather quickly, could end up a store manager in a year or beyond that in two years.
    Meanwhile their counterparts are still waiting for that job and collecting unemployment 2 years later. What happens if their industry doesn't recover for 5 years. Person "A" is a regional manager and making similar money to what he made before. Person B starts this process at 2 years (or 3, or whenever benefits finally run out).

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    Well, when I drew unemployment and waited for a good job again, it was almost $300 a week, and my rent was $700/month. This was almost 20 years ago. I simply couldn't find a job that paid $287(?) a week after taxes. They weren't available. However, I would have taken any job if I had no unemployment benefits. There were many lower paying jobs available.

    Why take a job that pays $350 a week after taxes when you can get $287 sitting on your ass, not have to pay for gas to and from work, and lunches?
    Because, on occasion, I try to at least pretend to be ethical.

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