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    I have been watching my Maryland's shooting guard for 4 years now, and I have been wanting him to replace Manu as Spurs top shooting guard, once Manu retires for a couple of years now. He is Manu revisited in every way. He plays with passion like no other, he can make any impossible play a spectacular success, and he can make any easy play a bone headed turnover , but he wants to win and more times than not, he wills his team to victory when it looks like the odds are slim. He is only player in ACC history to have 2000 points, 700 assists and 600 rebounds.

    His last game, he scored 41 pts had 7 rebs and 6 assists at Va Tech to help solidify their 2nd seed in ACC tourney.

    Read the article:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2010030300018

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    I got many issues with him, mostly potential wise. First, he is unathletic as heck which doesn't translate his game to the NBA, he doesn't have a long wingspan, which is worse because of his athletic ability or lack of. I got some questions about his fundamentals too. Mainly shooting and dribbling, keys to being a good guard. This is the kind of player that will slip in the draft.

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    What about George Hill? He's not going to be our PG.

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    Tonight, you can watch him play against Duke on ESPN at 8:00 on senior night. I am looking for a great game from him, and there is a chance that if Maryland wins, they will win the ACC if the win at Va on Sat.

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    I am actually more interested in Xavier Henry as a prospect if we are picking a swingman because of his age, but he wouldn't fall to us.

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    I got many issues with him, mostly potential wise. First, he is unathletic as heck which doesn't translate his game to the NBA, he doesn't have a long wingspan, which is worse because of his athletic ability or lack of. I got some questions about his fundamentals too. Mainly shooting and dribbling, keys to being a good guard. This is the kind of player that will slip in the draft.


    Not athletic???

    Vasquez had a career-high 35 points and 11 rebounds and 10 assists -- Maryland's first triple-double in 22 years -- and the Terrapins rallied from a 16-point deficit to shock No. 3 North Carolina 88-85 in overtime last year.

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    Not athletic???

    Vasquez had a career-high 35 points and 11 rebounds and 10 assists -- Maryland's first triple-double in 22 years -- and the Terrapins rallied from a 16-point deficit to shock No. 3 North Carolina 88-85 in overtime last year.
    He doesn't jump high, doesn't run fast, he is not what you call strong. You understand what athletic ability means? I am not questioning his nose to the ball and basketball instincts. And the way he pulled out of the 2009 draft speaks a lot of volume. This guy is a stretch to make it to the NBA, and even he knows it.

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    Watch some of his unathleticness:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQEa-...eature=related

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    I just watched that just now. He is unathletic compared to NBA players and his prospect peers. You might want to look at this.


    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...-Vasquez-1133/

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    He doesn't jump high, doesn't run fast, he is not what you call strong. You understand what athletic ability means? I am not questioning his nose to the ball and basketball instincts. And the way he pulled out of the 2009 draft speaks a lot of volume. This guy is a stretch to make it to the NBA, and even he knows it.
    Hmmmm, He actually has Spurs material written all over him if you think about it.

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    Nostradamas Jr.
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    He doesn't jump high, doesn't run fast, he is not what you call strong. You understand what athletic ability means? I am not questioning his nose to the ball and basketball instincts. And the way he pulled out of the 2009 draft speaks a lot of volume. This guy is a stretch to make it to the NBA, and even he knows it.

    Not fast?? He can jump plenty high enough for an off guard. His defense is outstanding as well. You do not play for gary Williams and not stand out on defense.


    Have you watched his play a game??? He will be in the NBA, there is no doubt and he will make any team better.

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    He doesn't jump high, doesn't run fast, he is not what you call strong. You understand what athletic ability means?
    Athleticism is important, but it doesn't necessarily translate into NBA success. If you could do the 2007 draft over again, whom would you pick: Ian Mahinmi or David Lee?

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    I just watched that just now. He is unathletic compared to NBA players and his prospect peers. You might want to look at this.


    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...-Vasquez-1133/

    ummm, that was a year ago. Since then he has gotten even better than ever. It does not matter what you think, so I am not going to argue any more. Agree to disagree.

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    ummm, that was a year ago. Since then he has gotten even better than ever. It does not matter what you think, so I am not going to argue any more. Agree to disagree.
    Then why make a thread about it if you are not ready to have a debate?

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    Unless he's missing both ACLs, there's no way he falls to the Spurs.

    But yes, this guy seems to be a playmaker of the Manu mold... no doubt the NBA will humble him though...

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    he trained at the Spurs facility last year before deciding to go back to College...

    Pass... all heart but I'd take Tempe's Fernandez 10 times ahead of him

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    Then why make a thread about it if you are not ready to have a debate?

    I was just telling Pop to draft him. He reads this forum you know.

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    Unless he's missing both ACLs, there's no way he falls to the Spurs.

    But yes, this guy seems to be a playmaker of the Manu mold... no doubt the NBA will humble him though...

    Spurs will be in middle of pack in draft, he very well can be on board still when their turn is up.

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    Athleticism is important, but it doesn't necessarily translate into NBA success. If you could do the 2007 draft over again, whom would you pick: Ian Mahinmi or David Lee?
    That's hindsight, would you pick Xavier Henry or Greivis Vasquez? For the record, I should probably watch the NCAA match just to see how ridiculous his take is.

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    That's hindsight, would you pick Xavier Henry or Greivis Vasquez?
    Henry hands down...has much more upside

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    Athleticism is important, but it doesn't necessarily translate into NBA success. If you could do the 2007 draft over again, whom would you pick: Ian Mahinmi or David Lee?
    We picked two Ian Mahinmi's?

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    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/

    Take it for its worth, the 2010 mock draft by draftexpress. A bunch of forwards, many tweener 3/4s, a few guards and a few Cs. So the guards are a rarity here. The top 17 mock picks with the exception of John Wall and Evan Turner are bigs.

    I am pretty intrigued by Fresno's State's Paul George. He has the length, athletic ability, to be a pretty good small forward in the league. He has at least NCAA 3 point range to be somewhat of a threat with that high release. He just needs to put on some muscle. He is about the pick where the Spurs are picking. And he has shooter's touch. 90.1% from the free throw line is remarkable. you don't even see that in the NBA a lot. Plus the 3 point range. I am drooling right now.

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    I'm not too high on Vasquez myself. If you look at his stats game by game, you'll see that most of his points and assists come against teams that are a few levels below Maryland. When he plays decent compe ion, he is not nearly as effective.

    vs. Cincinnati- 5-17, 4 assists, 3 turnovers
    vs. Wisconsin- 6-13, 2 assists, 5 turnovers
    vs. Indiana- 4-14, 8 assists, 3 turnovers
    vs. Villanova- 3-9, 7 assists, 7 turnovers
    vs. Florida St.- 8-18, 5 assists, 4 turnovers
    vs. Wake Forest- 9-27, 7 assists, 6 turnovers
    vs. Clemson- 3-11, 2 assists, 9 turnovers
    etc.

    He's a good player, but he's not an NBA starter or backup. I think his ceiling is 10 mpg.

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    Manu?? please

    his ceiling is a Jordan Farmar tops

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    Of course it is. I'm not saying the Spurs should use their first round pick on Vasquez. I'm simply pointing out that athleticism doesn't always trump everything else. In Mahinimi the Spurs drafted a project with incredible athleticism and passed on an average (at best) athlete who is now an All-Star averaging 20 and 12.

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