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If he didn't invent chiclets, we don't care.
funny, because thats probably exactly what the politicians in Mexico are thinking right now. "we can't do anything because its the United States fault." it probably is, but thats not the mentality you want to have when trying to improve a country. Mexico had a chance after it nationalized oil and felt its first real sovereignty...but decided to take a nice long corruptive siesta until the drug trade took hold.
If he didn't invent chiclets, we don't care.
I was at the San Antonio Sports HoF banquet at Alamodome a couple weeks ago. A couple rich Hispanics were up from the valley to honor their coach and sat at my table.
They said a lot of rich Mexicans near the border have moved over to the TX side to get away from violence.
The US's drug market is toxic for all the countries south of the border, and enriching for the prison industrial complex north of the border.
You have to admire the entrepreneurship of the drug baron businessmen in moving their product to meet the insatiable market demand.
BigPharma would LOVE to get in on those $Bs. BigPharma has already demonstrated repeatedly that they don't care if their (current) products maim and kill people.
You sound like you've done extensive study on the situation in Mexico. You should enlighten us with which of their leaders have this at ude and how it manifests itself. Also, what advanced measures do you propose they put into effect to combat the armies of the cartels that are better funded than the government?
All they would have to do is ask the US gov for assistance. You really think those heavily armed Gulf cartel convoys could stand up to a couple of cobra gunships?
You mean assistance above and beyond the billions of dollars we're already giving them?
I men play the game for keeps like they do. Kill the out of them wherever you catch them. They kill a honest politician to send a message , kill ten of them to send a message back.
They s ched his face on a ing soccer ball?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_417326.html
MEXICO CITY — The body of 36-year-old Hugo Hernandez was left on the streets of Los Mochis in seven pieces as a chilling threat to members of the Juarez drug cartel. A note read: "Happy New Year, because this will be your last."
To drive home the point, the assailants skinned Hernandez's face and s ched it onto a soccer ball.
The gruesome find, confirmed Friday by Sinaloa state prosecutors, represents a new level of brutality in Mexico's drug war, in which torture and beheadings are almost daily occurrences.
Hernandez was taken to Sinaloa after being kidnapped Jan. 2 in neighboring Sonora state, in an area known for marijuana growing, said Martin Robles, a spokesman for Sinaloa prosecutors. The motive for his abduction was unclear.
His torso was found in a plastic container in one location; elsewhere another box contained his arms, legs and skull, Robles said. Hernandez's face, sewn onto a soccer ball, was left in a plastic bag near City Hall.
More than 15,000 people have been killed since President Felipe Calderon launched a crackdown on cartels three years ago. While the border cities of Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana have seen much of the violence, Sinaloa state is Mexico's drug-smuggling heartland and is the birthplace of the leadership of four of the six major cartels.
Often, victims are tortured and mutilated, in an attempt to intimidate rivals, officials and others who might represent a threat to the cartels.
Often, it works.
In the northern city of Saltillo, a major regional newspaper announced it would stop covering drug violence altogether after the body of a reporter was found Friday outside a motel with a threatening message. Valentin Valdes had recently written about the arrests of suspected drug traffickers.
"As of today we will publish zero information related to drug trafficking to avoid situations like the one we went through today," an editor of the newspaper Zocalo told The Associated Press. Tellingly, he asked that his name not be published.
Many Mexican news media have stopped covering anything that might be associated with drugs, or limit themselves to reporting on government news releases. At least 17 journalists have been killed in Mexico since 1992 in direct reprisal for stories, according to the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists.
Valdes had written about the Dec. 29 arrests at the Marbella Motel of five alleged members of the Gulf drug cartel. He also covered the arrests Wednesday of five others who barged into the same hotel and stole the surveillance tapes.
The 28-year-old reporter was shot to death, and his body was dumped outside the Marbella Motel.
The Coahuila state Attorney General's Office said a handwritten message left next to his body read: "This is going to happen to everybody who doesn't understand, the message is for everybody."
Such threatening messages are frequently left by Mexican drug cartels.
The influence of cartels has increased to such an extent that on Friday all 60 policemen in the embattled town of Tancitaro were fired because they had failed to stop a series of killings and other crimes. Michoacan state police and soldiers will take over security duties in the town.
In December, eight government officials including the mayor of Tancitaro resigned their posts saying they had been threatened by drug traffickers.
The town is in a drug-plagued area and in March the top city council member, Gonzalo Paz, was kidnapped, tortured and killed.
Still, one Mexican official said progress was being made.
Mexico's Ambassador to the United States, Arturo Sarukhan, said that "we have begun to see important results in the ability of U.S. government to detain the flows" of drug-related weapons and cash into Mexico over the two countries' border.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120304357.htmlThe Merida Initiative, signed by President George W. Bush and Mexican leader Felipe Calderón in 2007, promises Black Hawk helicopters, night-vision goggles and drug-sniffing dogs, as well as a more robust crime-fighting partnership between the United States and Mexico. So far the United States has delivered 2 percent of the equipment and support promised, according to the report by the Government Accountability Office.
The perception of a slow flow of aid has rankled some in the Calderón government and fueled criticism here that the United States, which spends billions consuming illegal drugs, is fiddling while 50,000 Mexican soldiers and police officers are fighting in the streets to confront powerful criminal organizations that threaten Mexico's national security.
Killing them. Now there is a novel idea. I wonder why they hadn't thought of this one yet?
Billions of dollars huh? I bet you assume they're sending over wizards and fairies to help fight with magic too. You should show some proof of billions being sent instead of making up.
Billions of dollars are being sent to Mexico. Its by the consumers of the drugs and they're going straight to the cartels.
well, i can no longer toke without a guilty conscience.
but i agree with cosmic in that i'd like to see some of our gunships go in and clear out the roaches. seems like these corrupt drug kings are not much better people than many of our lawmakers in washington though. maybe a gunship can take care of business in DC as well...
it's not like any of these people are willing to martyr themselves like islamofascists...
they are not that honorable.
They really only started in 2006 after they had already basically taken over the police forces through bribery/intimidation.
Grow your own . Its not like if you grow your own weed the US government will treat you like someone who is actually on par with the cartels. OH WAIT, THEY WILL.
Stupid ing laws
Greed is the same everywhere, but its more ed up when there are people who are more easily exploited due to their poverty.but i agree with cosmic in that i'd like to see some of our gunships go in and clear out the roaches. seems like these corrupt drug kings are not much better people than many of our lawmakers in washington though. maybe a gunship can take care of business in DC as well...
They're pretty much just greedy thugs, but many of the people who they get to do a lot of the minor jobs are trying to survive.it's not like any of these people are willing to martyr themselves like islamofascists...
they are not that honorable.
This gunship vs. cartel idea sounds a lot like a Nicholas Cage movie I saw on TNT during a bout of insomnia. For this reason I am in favor of such a course of action.
So Manny...do you think the fix is in for the Sinaloa cartel? They are the only one the Mexican Fed's really haven't gone after.
I was referring to the merida initiative, but as you pointed out that money is barely being allocated. So, point made.
The cartel's are like tumors you get from radiation. You can focus on eliminating the tumors but if you don't change the overall situation and get your ass out of the radiation then you're just going to get more tumors.
Removing those specific threats is largely a tactical situation and I basically have no idea what they should do to have the most success. What I do know is that until we address the overall situation of a black market so lucrative that it has turned Mexico into a failed state it doesn't matter how many drug lords you kill because there is an unlimited supply willing and eager to take their place.
BTW, I totally agree that we should legalize and tax pot.
i wonder how much pressure it would put on the US if latin american nations mutually agreed to legalize and nationalize marijuana
Zero. The money comes from the US (and other places but really its the United States and other developed and westernized countries).
El Chapo is one of the most wanted men in the world, and at least one other cartel has shown it can get close to him to inflict damage. There's a 5m bounty for him on both sides of the border, but no one will bite at it because no one will see him and if they do they are probably shot.
Has anyone googled images of the drug war? Lots of chopped up bodies and decapitations. They really know how to send a message.
Eh, instead of trying to eliminate the supply, you should eliminate the demand.
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