Is the NBA fixed?

[Amarelooms]

Evidence #1...Miami Cheat win over the Mavs

[Galileo]

Basically, if your team has never won a championship then yes, its fixed.
Otherwise, no.
My answer is obviously..."YES."

I will add this, seriously. Sterns referees should have been scoured,replaced,refreshed,re-evaluated,scrutinized,forced to resign,taken off the payroll, whatever, etc etc etc...after the Donaghy fiasco.
"He worked alone." Yeah right.
"Independant investigation." Yeah...uhhuh.

Donaghy was a "lone nut". Just like:

John Hinckley, Jr. (Ronald Reagan - 1981)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

Mark David Chapman (John Lennon - 1980)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman

Arthur Bremer (George Wallace - 1972)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bremer

Sirhan Sirhan (Robert F. Kennedy - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

James Earl Ray (Martin Luther King - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

Talmadge Hayer (Malcom X - 1965)
http://www.biography.com/articles/Talmadge-Hayer-235817

Jack Ruby (Lee Harvey Oswald - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby

Lee Harvey Oswald (John F. Kennedy - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

Nathuram Godse (Mahatma Gandhi - 1948)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse

Carl Weiss (Huey Long - 1935)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Weiss

Gavrilo Princip (Archduke Franz Ferdinand - 1914)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

John Flammang Schrank (Teddy Roosevelt - 1912)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schrank

Leon Czolgosz (William McKinley - 1901)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz

Charles J. Guiteau (James Garfield - 1881)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau

James Wilkes Booth (Abraham Lincoln - 1865)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth

Richard Lawrence (Andrew Jackson - 1835)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard...ailed_assassin)

John Bellingham (Spencer Perceval - 1812)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bellingham

François Ravaillac (King Henry IV of France - 1610)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Ravaillac

Guy Fawkes (King James I - 1605)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

Jacques Clément (King Henry III of France - 1589)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Cl%C3%A9ment

Marcus Brutus (Julius Caesar - 44 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_...us_the_Younger

Pausanias of Orestis (King Philip of Macedon - 336 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pausanias_of_Orestis

[jack sommerset]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bull unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.

[Blake]

2002 Kings

not really.

[mavs>spurs2]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bull unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.

that's exactly how i feel, except the mavs recent resurgence has sparked my interest slightly once again

[Lars]

I think there are games influenced to extend playoff series, but not directly determing who advances.

I think the stars get preferential treatment so there is more marketability but that is for stats, not for wins.

[JoeTait75]

I think there are games influenced to extend playoff series, but not directly determing who advances.

This. I think anyone who watched Game 6 of the 2002 WCF knew it was "influenced" but Game 7 was on the level. The officials weren't trying to give L.A. the series- just that game, and the extended series.

I think the officials are influenced to lengthen series in general. Frankly, they were trying to hand the Cavaliers Game 3 of the 2007 Finals- the Cavaliers just weren't good enough to take it.

[mojorizen7]

Donaghy was a "lone nut". Just like:

John Hinckley, Jr. (Ronald Reagan - 1981)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

Mark David Chapman (John Lennon - 1980)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman

Arthur Bremer (George Wallace - 1972)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bremer

Sirhan Sirhan (Robert F. Kennedy - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

James Earl Ray (Martin Luther King - 1968)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

Talmadge Hayer (Malcom X - 1965)
http://www.biography.com/articles/Talmadge-Hayer-235817

Jack Ruby (Lee Harvey Oswald - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby

Lee Harvey Oswald (John F. Kennedy - 1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

Nathuram Godse (Mahatma Gandhi - 1948)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathuram_Godse

Carl Weiss (Huey Long - 1935)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Weiss

Gavrilo Princip (Archduke Franz Ferdinand - 1914)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip

John Flammang Schrank (Teddy Roosevelt - 1912)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schrank

Leon Czolgosz (William McKinley - 1901)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz

Charles J. Guiteau (James Garfield - 1881)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Guiteau

James Wilkes Booth (Abraham Lincoln - 1865)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wilkes_Booth

Richard Lawrence (Andrew Jackson - 1835)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard...ailed_assassin)

John Bellingham (Spencer Perceval - 1812)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bellingham

François Ravaillac (King Henry IV of France - 1610)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Ravaillac

Guy Fawkes (King James I - 1605)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

Jacques Clément (King Henry III of France - 1589)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Cl%C3%A9ment

Marcus Brutus (Julius Caesar - 44 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_...us_the_Younger

Pausanias of Orestis (King Philip of Macedon - 336 b.c.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pausanias_of_Orestis

[lefty]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bull unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.

+1

Not to mention that most teams/players today would have sucked in the 80's/early 90's

[Pelicans78]

Anyone watching the Hornets-Mavs game this past Sunday night should raise an eyebrow. The Mavs are clearly more talented, deeper, and at home. They were dominating with a 25 point lead in the 3rd quarter, yet the Hornets come back and almost win the game. The game was fixed to allow the Hornets to come back and keep the excitement and viewership. This stuff happens routinely in the NBA when it probably shouldn't. The league is definitely fixed.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Of course it's not. If it was, the Spurs wouldn't have 4 rings and LBJ would have 3 by now. To fix something like the NBA you'd need a conspiracy of hundreds to thousands of people, and there would have been a whistle blower by now. No way.

However, that doesn't mean that there aren't superstars for whom the game is called differently (there certainly are).

[Kamnik]

Of course it's not. If it was, the Spurs wouldn't have 4 rings and LBJ would have 3 by now. To fix something like the NBA you'd need a conspiracy of hundreds to thousands of people, and there would have been a whistle blower by now. No way.

However, that doesn't mean that there aren't superstars for whom the game is called differently (there certainly are).

What he said.

[AussieFanKurt]

I definitely have lost interest in the NBA the past few years because I think it's fixed. Too many things don't add up. Then Tim Donaghy gets busted and says more are involved. Stern disappears, he used to be all over the place. The "Superstars" get the calls and I am so tired of that bull unwritten rule/law. The refs have way 2 much power. I am not all that into the league anymore. I'll watch a game once a week, maybe 2. I used to have the NBA pass and would watch 1-2 a night. There is my 2 cents.

yeah this is how i feel. the fact the game is officiated in an unfair way just ruins it. and how stern is always the white knight etc. pisses me off

[Galileo]

Of course it's not. If it was, the Spurs wouldn't have 4 rings and LBJ would have 3 by now.

Tim would have had 6 rings without the fix.

To fix something like the NBA you'd need a conspiracy of hundreds to thousands of people,

The conspiracy to keep black people enslaved involved hundreds of thousands of white people.

and there would have been a whistle blower by now. No way.

Tim Donaghy is a whisleblower and he came out a long time ago.

However, that doesn't mean that there aren't superstars for whom the game is called differently (there certainly are).

If you believe in that conspiracy, why not believe that Stern fixes the NBA?

[JoeTait75]

The conspiracy to keep black people enslaved involved hundreds of thousands of white people.

Huh? That wasn't a conspiracy, that was an open, legal business. "Conspiracy" implies a secret plan to perform an illegal or nefarious act. There was no need to keep the slave trade a secret because it was perfectly legal. Bizarre analogy and not even close to the mark.

[Galileo]

Huh? That wasn't a conspiracy, that was an open, legal business. "Conspiracy" implies a secret plan to perform an illegal or nefarious act. There was no need to keep the slave trade a secret because it was perfectly legal. Bizarre analogy and not even close to the mark.

Slavery was nefarious, and has always been an illegal transgression of natural law. That is how large scale conspiracies operate, they are accepted as OK by the participants. A lot of NBA executives think its OK to fix the NBA so they can make more money.

Also, many conspiracies are made legal by powerful people, like the bailouts of the gigantic banks last year, or of AIG. These bailouts violate the text of the US Cons ution and violate any sense of fairness under moral law.

[badfish22]

Tim would have had 6 rings without the fix.

Actually, if you believe Donaghys story, series were fixed FOR the Spurs.

[Phillip]

lol austrailia

[Galileo]

"The Spurs were a good team. Yes, they did earn them [4 rings], the league certainly didn't want a small market team like the Spurs in the NBA Finals every year."

Tim Donaghy

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?to...3555#post88665

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Tim would have had 6 rings without the fix.



The conspiracy to keep black people enslaved involved hundreds of thousands of white people.



Tim Donaghy is a whisleblower and he came out a long time ago.



If you believe in that conspiracy, why not believe that Stern fixes the NBA?

Were your parents siblings?

[mavsfan1000]

NBA: Where Rigged Games Happens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4t5RMFt5u8

lol They need to include the 2006 finals on that.

[Goran Dragic]

Slavery was nefarious, and has always been an illegal transgression of natural law. That is how large scale conspiracies operate, they are accepted as OK by the participants. A lot of NBA executives think its OK to fix the NBA so they can make more money.

Also, many conspiracies are made legal by powerful people, like the bailouts of the gigantic banks last year, or of AIG. These bailouts violate the text of the US Cons ution and violate any sense of fairness under moral law.

Conspiracies are never legal you moronic fat . If something is legal it's not a conspiracy.

[Galileo]

Conspiracies are never legal you moronic fat . If something is legal it's not a conspiracy.

What about an illegal conspiracy that is declared legal?

[Goran Dragic]

What about an illegal conspiracy that is declared legal?

God damn you're dumb. I'm truly amazed that someone with as much frontal lobe damage as you have is even able to turn a computer on.

[Allanon]

You have 4 championships by a Big Market team (Lakers) and 4 championships by a small market team (Spurs) in 11 years.

This is proof that there's no rigging or proof that Stern was great enough to rig 8 championships without anybody finding out.

I believe the Lakers and Spurs won fair and square. Take your pick