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  1. #76
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    It's only a conspiracy when a team other than the spurs wins. Come on guys, it's only obvious. If it wasn't for the refs and stern and CIA Pop the Spurs would go undefeated and win a championship every year.
    If Mavfan and Sunfan want to talk conspiracy; sure.

    But Spurfan and Lakerfan have seemingly benefited from this alleged fixing.

  2. #77
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    Tim Donaghy also said the Spurs Suns series in 2007 was rigged in favor of the Spurs. By your logic that everything Tim Donaghy says is 100% factual, that means it is fact the Spurs 2007 championship is a conspiracy.
    Donaghy never said that. You lie.


  3. #78
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    Dude c'mon, the Spurs are just THAT good that they have been able to overcome the refs hating them all these years.
    You joke but I have actually seen Spurfan say that exact same thing numerous times.

  4. #79
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    Tim Donaghy said 2007 was on the level.


    An Excerpt from Tim Donaghy's book:

    My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
    Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

    There you go jackass. Looks like the Spurs 2007 is invalid and was just a conspiracy.

  5. #80
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    Donaghy never said that. You lie.

    http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts...nt-you-to-read


    Here's the link to the excerpt I posted. You can't cherry pick through the stuff Donaghy says and leave out the stuff that hurts your argument.

  6. #81
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    Donaghy never said that. You lie.

    My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.

    Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

    nope. sorry. Like I said before, if you belive in Donaghy, the Spurs benifited from the fix.

    Guess who is about to stop believing in Donaghy?

  7. #82
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    You joke but I have actually seen Spurfan say that exact same thing numerous times.

    Doesn't surprise me coming from a fan base that believes their coach intentionally loses games.

  8. #83
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    Dragic beat me to it.

  9. #84
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    My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.

    Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

    nope. sorry. Like I said before, if you belive in Donaghy, the Spurs benifited from the fix.

    Guess who is about to stop believing in Donaghy?

    I can't wait for the "just because Tim Donaghy says it doesn't mean it's true".

  10. #85
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    David Stern Fixing 1985 Draft Lottery *HIGH QUALITY*
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mN3OGRGybA


    Just becasue something is on youtube, doesn't make it true.


  11. #86
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    You are the one who said every youtube video proved a conspiracy, not me. I base my beliefs upon evidence.


  12. #87
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    Game Six of the 1984 Finals was rigged in favor of the Lakers to extend the series to a 7th game. Larry Bird was not happy about this.

  13. #88
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    You are the one who said every youtube video proved a conspiracy, not me. I base my beliefs upon evidence.


    I was sarcastically saying that making fun of the fact your 1985 draft argument was based off a youtube video. The best support you could come up with to support the claim that the 1985 draft was rigged was a youtube video. Several posts later you said just because something is on youtube, doesn't mean it's true. Good job on the self-ownage.

    Just so you know, I don't think the 2007 Suns Spurs series was rigged at all. My point is that Donaghy, the guy you seem to think is always telling the truth, said it was rigged.

  14. #89
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    Another way the NBA rigs the NBA is their TV schedule. As you know, only certain teams get to play on national network TV. Not surpisingly, star NBA players then want to go to those teams.

    Conversly, some teams are never on TV, not even on cable, like the Milwaukee Bucks. Not surprisingly, whenever the Bucks land a good player, he immedialtey wants to leave.

  15. #90
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    Another way the NBA rigs the NBA is their TV schedule. As you know, only certain teams get to play on national network TV. Not surpisingly, star NBA players then want to go to those teams.

    Conversly, some teams are never on TV, not even on cable, like the Milwaukee Bucks. Not surprisingly, whenever the Bucks land a good player, he immedialtey wants to leave.



    The amount of nationally televised games for each team during the 2009-2010 season:

    Team home away total
    Cleveland Cavaliers 13 12 25
    Boston Celtics 14 11 25
    Los Angeles Lakers 14 11 25
    Orlando Magic 12 12 24
    Denver Nuggets 12 10 22
    San Antonio Spurs 8 12 20
    Phoenix Suns 10 8 18
    Portland Trail Blazers 10 7 17
    Miami Heat 5 10 15
    Utah Jazz 7 6 13
    Dallas Mavericks 5 8 13
    Chicago Bulls 4 9 13
    New Orleans Hornets 2 7 9
    Washington Wizards 4 4 8
    Golden State Warriors 7 1 8
    Los Angeles Clippers 3 5 8
    Atlanta Hawks 4 3 7
    New York Knicks 5 0 5
    Detroit Pistons 0 4 4
    Philidelphia 76ers 1 1 2
    Toronto Raptors 0 1 1
    Minnesota Timberwolves 1 0 1
    Indiana Pacers 0 1 1
    Oklahoma City Thunder 1 0 1
    Memphis Grizzlies 1 0 1
    Charlotte Bobcats 0 0 0
    New Jersey Nets 0 0 0
    Sacramento Kings 0 0 0
    Milwaukee Bucks 0 0 0
    Houston Rockets 0 0 0

    So much for the NBA rigging things against the Spurs

  16. #91
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    I was sarcastically saying that making fun of the fact your 1985 draft argument was based off a youtube video. The best support you could come up with to support the claim that the 1985 draft was rigged was a youtube video. Several posts later you said just because something is on youtube, doesn't mean it's true. Good job on the self-ownage.

    Just so you know, I don't think the 2007 Suns Spurs series was rigged at all. My point is that Donaghy, the guy you seem to think is always telling the truth, said it was rigged.
    What's your evidence that Donaghy said 2007 was rigged? Donaghy just said the Spurs deserved thier rings.

  17. #92
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    Another way the NBA rigs the NBA is their TV schedule. As you know, only certain teams get to play on national network TV.
    Like the Cavs eight years ago?

  18. #93
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    Donaghy just said the Spurs deserved thier rings.
    "Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger."

    Are you mentally impaired?

  19. #94
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    What's your evidence that Donaghy said 2007 was rigged? Donaghy just said the Spurs deserved thier rings.

    Are you being serious right now? I just posted this.

    http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts...nt-you-to-read


    An excerpt from the Donaghy book (you claim to have read):

    My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
    Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

  20. #95
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    An Excerpt from Tim Donaghy's book:




    There you go jackass. Looks like the Spurs 2007 is invalid and was just a conspiracy.
    Donaghy is not saying the NBA rigged this series. Donaghy is saying a rogue official had a grudge against the Suns. A lone nut. Donaghy himself worked the pivotal game 5. Another thing is that the Spurs were a better team than the Suns that year.

    Not everything is a giant conspiracy, please take a look at what you are saying.

  21. #96
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    Nothing involving the Spurs is a conspiracy, please take a look at what you are saying.

  22. #97
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    Donaghy is not saying the NBA rigged this series. Donaghy is saying a rogue official had a grudge against the Suns. A lone nut. Donaghy himself worked the pivotal game 5. Another thing is that the Spurs were a better team than the Suns that year.

    Not everything is a giant conspiracy, please take a look at what you are saying.
    It's frightening that people as stupid as you are allowed to walk the streets.

  23. #98
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    Donaghy is not saying the NBA rigged this series.
    Then how does your dumb ass explain this quote:
    Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.

    Donaghy is saying a rogue official had a grudge against the Suns.
    And also had a love for San Antonio. But your right, I'm sure that, and the fact the official was the group supervisor for the series didn't affect the outcome of the series at all.


    Donaghy himself worked the pivotal game 5.
    Donaghy is also the only ref who has ever gone to jail for dealings with a bookie, so I don't understand how Donaghy reffing a game means it was legitimate.
    PS - Donaghy reffed game 3, he didn't ref game 5. Do you have some crazy conspiracy that he dressed up to look like another ref for game 5?

    And another thing is that the Spurs were a better team than the Suns that year.
    Based on what? The fact the Suns had a better regular season record (oops).

    Not everything is a giant conspiracy.
    Only when the Spurs lose it's a conspiracy. My bad.

  24. #99
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    It's frightening that people as stupid as you are allowed to walk the streets.


  25. #100
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    Another rigged series was the eastern conference finals in 2001.

    The NBA wanted Philly and AI to be in the finals.

    The Bucks took game 6 to even the series at 3-3.

    But Scott Williams, a Bucks starter, was unjustly kicked out of game 7, and the Sixers advanced to meet LA.

    Pivotal game 5, which Philly won by one point, had a big foul and free throw advantage for Philly.

    In game two, which the Bucks won by 14 points, Philly was only called for 11 fouls (Bucks had 21), and Philly had 30 free throw attempts to only 6 for Milwaukee.

    For the entire 7-game series, the Bucks had more fouls called on them all 7 games, and had fewer free throws attempts in 6 out of 7 games.
    Last edited by Galileo; 03-03-2010 at 08:00 PM.

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