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    It wasn't my business decision, and I really don't care what that landlord decided, I just think it is funny that an application for residence was approved by a business for a person who is unemployed.

    As far as the federal grant, it isn't given, it is earned.

    I am, however, glad that it seems that you are slowly getting it.
    yep, cuz there are a million grants available to almost nobody.

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    yep, cuz there are a million grants available to almost nobody.
    Um, pell grant is available to anyone who needs it (defined by family size, income, etc.). If they have been on unemployment for 2 years (or even 1 year), they likely qualify. Additionally, you saw the program that Crookshanks talked about a few posts back dealing with retraining, right? There are tons and tons of scholarships available to all sorts of people in all sorts of situations. Unfortunately, all of this requires some work to get, so most people won't go for it.

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    the numbers are staggering.

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    the numbers are staggering.
    Yes for those that want it, the billions of dollars from the 10s of thousands of programs/scholarships that are available to those who are willing to do the work to go to school for free are staggering.

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    There are people who legitimately cannot find work and there are people who game the system so they don't have to work. To act like either example is a figment of the opposing ideology's imagination is just naive.

    Now I still want to know why this couldn't be funded out of unspent stimulus money. Also, what happens when it expires again at the end of this month?

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    Yes for those that want it, the billions of dollars from the 10s of thousands of programs/scholarships that are available to those who are willing to do the work to go to school for free are staggering.
    i had to lay off 39 people 15 months ago. i've been able to bring back 8.

    all of them are model employees and loyal to their families.

    i hired a firm to help these people with exactly what you are suggesting.

    to think they haven't exhausted every avenue through this process, and come up empty, is not the reality.

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    i had to lay off 39 people 15 months ago. i've been able to bring back 8.

    all of them are model employees and loyal to their families.

    i hired a firm to help these people with exactly what you are suggesting.

    to think they haven't exhausted every avenue through this process, and come up empty, is not the reality.
    If you were a model employer, you wouldn't have laid them off.

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    If you were a model employer, you wouldn't have laid them off.
    that really stings coming from someone that was raised on welfare and continued to cheat the system as an adult.

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    that really stings coming from someone that was raised on welfare and continued to cheat the system as an adult.
    We all see thorugh your lies. You aren't smart enough to own a Mercedes or operate a business. You flagrantly lie and slander peoples situations, or really misunderstand them. Neither trait is helpful in running a business.

    How can I expect you to have an ounce of morality or integrity, and believe you couldn't have kept those good employees if you just tightened your own belt a little. Now that's assuming I even believe you have a business, which I don't. I think all the wealth you have is a fantasy. Your ramblings here simply place you as having too low an IQ to be successful. My God. You don't even know what a "cap key" is.

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    my god! envy from the welfare baby is sweet!

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    The United States of America is broke and cannot afford the legislation.
    This!! Why can't people understand the government cannot support them forever. Why would they believe they deserve another year or two of handouts? They need to get off their collective asses and find a job or create one for themselves.

    It's amazing the number of people I know that has created their own job in the last couple of years.

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    my god! envy from the welfare baby is sweet!
    Not at all.

    I pity you and your pathetic existence.

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    We all see thorugh your lies. You aren't smart enough to own a Mercedes or operate a business.
    i own 2 mercedes. its not that big of a deal. i respect the quality and safety that they provide for my family.

    i have more than one business interest.
    Now that's assuming I even believe you have a business, which I don't. I think all the wealth you have is a fantasy.
    believing shouldn't be that big of a stretch. allow me to give you an example.

    i believe you when you said:

    US soldiers died because of karma.
    you used the internet to stalk a woman.
    you want to shot women and children crossing the border.
    you were raised on welfare.
    you continued to cheat the system as an adult.

    i sincerely believe that you were telling the truth.

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    i own 2 mercedes. its not that big of a deal. i respect the quality and safety that they provide for my family.

    i have more than one business interest.

    believing shouldn't be that big of a stretch. allow me to give you an example.

    i believe you when you said:

    US soldiers died because of karma.
    you used the internet to stalk a woman.
    you want to shot women and children crossing the border.
    you were raised on welfare.
    you continued to cheat the system as an adult.

    i sincerely believe that you were telling the truth.
    Relax.

    Calm down...

    I see you cannot think strait, and get the facts strait.

    Find your meds and calm down...

    I guess I'll stop before you burst your aneurysm.

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    This!! Why can't people understand the government cannot support them forever. Why would they believe they deserve another year or two of handouts? They need to get off their collective asses and find a job or create one for themselves.

    It's amazing the number of people I know that has created their own job in the last couple of years.
    This. My uncle was laid off by USAA last year or the year before that. After a month of looking for a new job, he started a pressure washing company. Did pretty darn well (not exactly what he was making before, but an approximation). Didn't schedule appts in the morning so that he could go to job interviews, etc. He did this until he was recently rehired by USAA. Now he has his old job back, and continues to pressure wash on the weekends, because he likes it and it brings him extra money.

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    Wild Cobra is an entertaining class warrior.

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    Relax.

    Calm down...

    I see you cannot think strait, and get the facts strait.

    Find your meds and calm down...

    I guess I'll stop before you burst your aneurysm.
    Look, I don't know if he owns a business or not, I have no reason not to believe him. I understand that he has examples that are "very convenient" to support his arguements, but if you look at this thread and my examples given of my family, well they too are "very convenient." Mine aren't lies though, I just have a kick-ass family. I would be the pot calling the kettle black to attempt to say he doesn't have a business. That doesn't change anything, though, he can have a business, two Mercedes, and a yacht, and I still disagree with the premise of his arguement.

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    lol clam still pounding the welfare thing. That's cold blooded, O'Doherty.

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    i don't have a yacht...or boat of any kind.

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    Look, I don't know if he owns a business or not, I have no reason not to believe him. I understand that he has examples that are "very convenient" to support his arguements, but if you look at this thread and my examples given of my family, well they too are "very convenient." Mine aren't lies though, I just have a kick-ass family. I would be the pot calling the kettle black to attempt to say he doesn't have a business. That doesn't change anything, though, he can have a business, two Mercedes, and a yacht, and I still disagree with the premise of his arguement.
    I know.

    He's just such a dip , and I'm having fun antagonizing the childish fool at the moment. He thinks he's getting to me. He is...

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    i don't have a yacht...or boat of any kind.
    I know, sorry, I was just trying to make a point to WC that I don't need you to be lying to disagree with the premise of your arguement regardless of what you have socked away.

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    envy

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    I know, sorry, I was just trying to make a point to WC that I don't need you to be lying to disagree with the premise of your arguement regardless of what you have socked away.
    not that much anymore. on tuesday i sent 2 drums (135lbs) of karat lap and polishing for refining as a down payment for 2 kilos of gold to finish a run.

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    I know.

    He's just such a dip , and I'm having fun antagonizing the childish fool at the moment. He thinks he's getting to me. He is...
    This type of behavior in and of itself is childish. Antagonizing for the sake of antagonizing. Using ridiculous and unimaginative name-calling (lib s, repigs). Its dumb.

    Damn, I can't wait until I get back into college so i can have some mature intellectual discourse.

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    This type of behavior in and of itself is childish. Antagonizing for the sake of antagonizing. Using ridiculous and unimaginative name-calling (lib s, repigs). Its dumb.

    Damn, I can't wait until I get back into college so i can have some mature intellectual discourse.
    LOL...

    I normally don't engage the asshole much, but we have a history. I often ignore the head, but I'm just in a rare mood today.

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