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The key word is viable. The UFL's and my research points to a pro football league even an alternative one needs to play in the Fall. From my personal point of view in the Spring and hopefully Summer I would rather watch the Spurs.
I wish there was a viable spring league that started the week after March Madness ended.
The key word is viable. The UFL's and my research points to a pro football league even an alternative one needs to play in the Fall. From my personal point of view in the Spring and hopefully Summer I would rather watch the Spurs.
What money? The UFL won't cost us a cent;unless you go to the games.If by some miracle we ever get an NFL team that will cost everybody.
Of course there are. Name an owner willing to bring his team to San Antonio and find another another way to fund a new stadium.
So you don't really know of any owners that see the Dome as a short stop gap before playing in a new stadium. Me neither.You asked a hypothetical. I answered with a hypothetical and now you want to know who?
Nope. Nothing in the forseeable future.Bummer. Something next week then?
The truth can be a real bummer sometimes.
Why? It doesn't matter.
The discussion about the NFL to SA isn't whether a owner wants to move here or is planning on moving here, the discussion is about whether SA can support a NFL team and the answer to that is a resounding yes in every possible way.
Seriously, no .So you don't really know of any owners that see the Dome as a short stop gap before playing in a new stadium. Me neither.
Maybe next month then.Nope. Nothing in the forseeable future.
The truth can be a real bummer sometimes.
oh ok, then yeah, I'd agree with you, SA can support an NFL team.
Too bad it's a meaningless discussion.
+1Seriously, no .
na, I consider that the foreseeable future.Maybe next month then.
bummer.
Gee, such civility.Stick it up yours. I don't make things up, dude or are you a dudette?
How about posting a link to show you point of view.
Here is an article I found:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/c...expansion.html
I'd rather have a UFL team than no team at all, if this league becomes viable later down the line and the city denies them now, it would not surprise me they go to Austin instead and we would be left out in the cold, getting in on the ground floor of this type of opporunity is not that bad. If we turn down this I think it would make getting an NFL team even harder. IMO of course.
Brendan Rowe, Executive Director of Football Admin for the UFL toured the Alamodome yesterday.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/U...Alamodome.html
And Jim Mery will no longer be in charge of booking the Alamodome. Marc Solis has been hired to run the Alamodome. Solis has been running the American Bank Center in Corpus Christi since 2004.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/A..._selected.html
1. why not have the discussion of which investors are willing to buy a team and then move it to SA?
2. who answered that question? you?
Because it's a beyond hypothetical question with any discussion being merely opinionated drivel.
Nope, the basic facts surrounding that question did. But honestly I wouldn't expect you to even remotely comprehend the term "facts."2. who answered that question? you?
Latest MySA article: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/U...eam_in_SA.html
le says it all. UTSA is scared of the UFL. Wolff is dismissive of it.
Castro wants to hear the pitch, but UTSA is numero uno priority.
Thank god! UFL is .
I saw that in the print version and couldn't find it online earlier. Thanks for the link!
Jerry Jones is one of the most powerful, if not THE most powerful owner, and I can tell you that he will NEVER support San Antonio having a team. Yes, I know what he's said about it. He lied. We are probably THE most pure play secondary market in the league. He's not giving that up. Ever.
Wrong. Jones is not all that powerful as you make him out to be at all. While true, he may want to keep a team out of San Antonio for the purposes of hogging the market but that does not mean that the city will not be getting a team.
Jones has a lot of enemies around the league. And these owners would like nothing better than to stick it to Jones by placing a team right smack in his backyard. Besides this, San Antonio has what it takes to land and support a team on its own merits. Regardless of what Jones wants or thinks about it. Suffice it to say that the league and Commissioner Goodell will have the final say on the matter. Not Jones.
Yeah, it really comes down to Goodell and one owner willing to bring a team to San Antonio. The rest of the NFL would stop it if those two things are met.
How much money do you think JJ would stand to lose if a team moved to San Antonio?
Cowboys Stadium on gameday seats about 85k. They can go up to 100k but they lose alot of the amenities and have to put bleachers as close as possible to the field. They basically put seats wherever a seat in theory could go when they do that.
I know...which is why I said it fits 100k not seats.
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I agree. This little minor league ufl thing needs San Antonio more than the city needs the ufl. San Antonio has been down this minor league road many times in the past and they've all ended one way. Failure. Total and absolute failure. So why should the ufl be any different than any minor league of the past? It isn't. It is doomed to fail like all the previous attempts to compete with the all-powerful NFL. Bailey hit it right on the head. San Antonio leaders should pass on this latest football fiasco and hold out for the NFL.
For those that couldn't read the full story when it appeared on 03/12/2010 in the SA Business Journal here is the full story that appeared today on the site.
http://sanantonio.bizjournals.com/sa...625600^3015661
UTSA athletic director Lynn Hickey on Monday told a United Football League official she's concerned expansion to San Antonio could hinder the Roadrunners' efforts to attract fans and sponsors for their fledgling football program.
Hickey described her hour-long meeting with UFL senior vice president Bill Peterson as a session “to learn about each other,” but she also made it clear to him she's troubled by the league's interest in San Antonio.
UTSA is set to begin play in 2011 at the Alamodome, a venue the UFL also hopes to call home. The UFL already shares stadiums with Sacramento State, UNLV and Connecticut and has a team in Orlando, Fla., home of Central Florida.
“Because we are a start-up program and don't have a fan base and sponsorships built up, I have concerns their timing of (possibly) coming here the year before we start could be another obstacle we'd have to work through,” Hickey said. “The other (schools) they've worked with have had programs for quite some time.”
Peterson declined comment.
Hickey also cast a wary eye at UFL talk of a marketing partnership.
“We did talk about looking at what NCAA rules allow us to do or not to do with a professional organization,” Hickey said. “My first take on it is we can't (partner with a pro team).”
One of UTSA's strongest allies, County Judge Nelson Wolff, is fearful the UFL would divert attention from the Roadrunners. He also said he thinks the UFL will fail.
“As community leaders, our primary responsibility when it comes to football is to rally around UTSA and make sure it has a good, strong program,” Wolff said last week.
At least two City Council members agreed.
“We've got to invest in things we think are going to be long term,” John Clamp from District 10 said. “I'm not sure the UFL is one of those.”
Reed Williams, whose District 8 includes UTSA, said he'd “be very concerned” if council doesn't scrutinize the UFL. He also said he wants UTSA to succeed at the dome to keep it from building a stadium in his district.
“We've got the infrastructure and the parking lots downtown,” Williams said. “I don't have them at the intersection of Hausman Road and Bab .”
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/U..._concerns.html
I think you are wrong Jerry Jones is one of the most influential owners of the NFL. San Antonio will never get a team because 1) For relocation: A new expensive state of the art stadium will need to be built. SA taxpayers will not pay for it and we don't have any individual that will pay for it 2) NFL will not expand . The NFL is already the largest pro sports league; there isn't any financial incentive. 3) The San Antonio market already belongs to Jerry Jones; we host his camp and he allows the players to sign autographs
and we get to watch his team practice. That's it; all we get is crumbs from the NFL.
That said we should welcome the UFL team to this city they will at least appreciate it. And as I saw last season on Versus we will get a good quality brand of football. If they fail; so what? It won't cost us a cent. And they will pay to use the Alamdome; which has been in the red for years.The more tenants we have the better.
I thought the "big time D1 football team" wouldn't have a problem getting fans?
“We've got to invest in things we think are going to be long term,” John Clamp from District 10 said. “I'm not sure the UFL is one of those.”
I totally agree with John Clamp's statement. Help build UTSA Football now for a brighter future for our city tomorrow. I see a bleak future for the UFL, and will only hinder UTSA's pace to joining some great NCAA Football programs. We as a city should consider ourself flattered to be seen as a great football market by the UFL, and tell them, "Thank You, But No Thank You" for now. "Come back when you can prove to us you can help us gain a NFL caliber team and/or be an asset for UTSA to build a strong football program". Because right now the UFL needs us more than we need them.
As for The NFL, it is the only league that I see as long term. And San Antonio can support a team. But the league doesn't need to place a team here to cash in to our market, we are viable to the league. San Antonians purchase alot of NFL merchandies, majority of it is Cowboys crap. San Antonians purchase Cowboys game tickets, and take charter buses to Dallas for the Cowboys game. San Antonians help the NFL TV ratings for games, no matter what teams are playing , but especially follow The Cowboys. And don't forget the Super Bowl and NFL Network. Even the NFLPA is intrested in our market...
By Tom Orsborn - Express-News
A college all-star game planning a 2011 debut wants to call the Alamodome home.
The NFL Players Association will sponsor the game along with the same group that produces the Pro Football Hall of Fame Texas vs. the Nation game in El Paso.
“San Antonio is our first choice,” said Kenny Hansmire, president and chief executive officer of the Texas vs. The Nation game.
“San Antonio is a good union town, the largest union member town in the state of Texas, and the NFLPA is the union arm of the NFL.”
With the NFLPA involved, the game could draw several of the top draft prospects.
“San Antonio is a great sports city that really deserves an NFL team,” Hansmire said.
“If we can’t get an NFL team down there, we can at least hopefully get the future players of the NFL in San Antonio.”
Jim Mery, the city’s assistant director for convention, sports and entertainment facilities, confirmed that Hansmire has contacted the Alamodome about negotiating a lease agreement.
“The people at the Alamodome have been very good to work with, really first class,” Hansmire said.
Hansmire said the target date for the game is Feb. 4 or 5 and that the NFLPA is expected to negotiate broadcasting rights with Fox.
“We’re hopeful that some of the player representatives like Drew Brees and Peyton Manning will come down to help promote the game,” Hansmire said.
The game’s format hasn’t been determined yet, Hansmire said.
“We’re not sure yet whether the new game will be an East-West format, or North-South or Big 12 versus the nation,” he said.
Perhaps if San Antonians countinue this path of merely whining about not having a team. The NFL may allow us to host a Pro Bowl if only to help countinue to build us up as Dallas' secondary market. And as a bonus, Jerry Jones might even bless us with more Cowboys Training Camps, WOW...
As for me, I will not grovel to the NFL and Jerry Jones. Since the days when we hosted The Saints in their time of need. I recall the then NFL Commissioner Taglibue dismiss the San Antonio market, he wasn't even present at any of the Saints games at the Alamodome. Not even a THANK YOU to the fans who supported and attended the Saints games. Since then I have never purchased an NFL merchandise, game ticket or attended a Cowboys Training Camp.
I'm tired of people analyzing why we don't have a team. People whining about not having a team. And blaming Jerry Jones. The NFL doesn't need to place a team here for us to root for, because we went out and got a team to root for. The Cowgirls, I mean Cowboys. The NFL and Jerry saw a market to cash in without even playing a game there. We did this to ourselves. When we as a city stop caring about the NFL and/or Cowboys, and care about our community such as UTSA we will move away from the Cowboys shadow and become a bright market that will attract intrest from other NFL franchises. Ownership, stadiums, and investments in our community will all fall in place over time and on there own.
San Antonians should do the same as me. Boycott the Cowboys Stores, stop buying NFL Merchandise, Game Tickets, and riding Charter Buses. Demand the City to stop hosting Cowboys Training Camps. When the NFL sees this, it is then when the NFL will miss and want us.
Untill then, I will merely watch a few free NFL games on TV and wait for the NFL to come to me. San Antonio is growing market and it is inevitable that San Antonio will become a World Class Sports City... I'd like to hear back from others, if you have any ideas in growing a movement towards freeing San Antonio from the Cowboys clutches. Start some kind of movement to help San Antonio get their own team.
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