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    you'll do the "dirty" work?
    if there's something in it for me Spurs FO can PM me

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    You don't understand how overpaid NBA big men always are, and how many teams will be left at the altar this summer, do you? He'll make bank. Eight figures per year.
    He's an undersized guard-forward, not a "big man".

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    He's an undersized guard-forward, not a "big man".
    I think he may have been talking about Amare.

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    this is what i see players doing....they will get the lower salary in the new CBA, but will get extra base on performances....

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    He's an undersized guard-forward, not a "big man".
    I think he may have been talking about Amare.
    That. The two posts above the one of yours I responded to were about Amare. That's where I thought the conversation was going.

    1. Amare is definitely opting out
    2. RJ is definitely NOT opting out.

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    Let's get real... If RJ suddenly becomes a deadly weapon and leads the Spurs tot he Finals he could get a hefty contract long term by opting out... having said that.. the chances that that happens are around 0.5%...

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    I noticed that Jefferson has an Early Termination Option (ETO) in 2010. How could that possibly play out for him if he exercises that option this summer?

    If I am interpreting this correctly...Would it mean he could list himself as an unrestricted FA this summer seeing if he could garnish a longer contract for not necessarily more than he is making now but provide him more in the long term prior to a new cba?


    y J makes 15 million next year. If the owners have their way, a premium contract will be in the 8 million dollar range (the Bryants, Jameses and Wades of the world would make this) and it would go down from there.

    Now ask yourself: What would make in this new world? 3.5, perhaps 4.5 million if some team was really hard up?

    Given the state of things in the NBA now, I don't see him getting much more than that now, even he does opt out.

    Not a chance that he walks on his last year. Its nice to dream though.
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    if there's something in it for me Spurs FO can PM me
    They'll give you a black AMEX for 1 night, just like RJ did his ex!

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    y J makes 15 million next year. If the owners have their way, a premium contract will be in the 8 million dollar range (the Bryants, Jameses and Wades of the world would make this) and it would go down from there.

    Now ask yourself: What would make in this new world? 3.5, perhaps 4.5 million if some team was really hard up?

    Given the state of things in the NBA now, I don't see him getting much more than that now, even he does opt out.

    Not a chance that he walks on his last year. Its nice to dream though.
    Not sure when the "new" world is going to start. But I'm almost positive that player's contracts that are going to end right before the "new" world order takes control, there will be several looking to vye for a "new" contract that would put them somewhere between the "old" scale and "new" scale before the "new" scale prohibits them from doing that.

    And granted...the only way RJ would get that opportuity is if he did miraculously carry the Spurs through the playoffs. And maybe not even that... but prove to be worth having on your team as a viable component to winning.

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    Not sure when the "new" world is going to start. But I'm almost positive that player's contracts that are going to end right before the "new" world order takes control, there will be several looking to vye for a "new" contract that would put them somewhere between the "old" scale and "new" scale before the "new" scale prohibits them from doing that.

    And granted...the only way RJ would get that opportuity is if he did miraculously carry the Spurs through the playoffs. And maybe not even that... but prove to be worth having on your team as a viable component to winning.
    Sure, I get that. My only point was to say that y J really isn't in a position to demand 8-10 per from anyone anymore. I'm sure if he saw that as a possiblity, he would pobably walk in hopes of making up the difference over time on his new contract. As extatic stated earlier in this thread, the RJ trade screwed both sides to a certain degree.

    That's a big part of the rub though: unknowns. When will the lockout end? (and yes, theres going to be a lockout of the owners continue to insist on 8 million dollar max contracts.....). What will be the limit on contract length? Are players going to be more bonus driven (as a result of contract structure) in the future?

    There are so many unknowns that I didn't even list. For a player like y, I don't think rolling the dice is a smart play at this juncture. For Amare? Sure it makes more sense as he can still fetch something around 12 million per starting next year. Very few players are in this boat however.

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    $15 million a year for 12 points per game? Sign me up.

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