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Why do people insist on making these stupid topics over and over again?
So was Bruce Bowen. That's never stopped Spurs fans from rooting for him before.He's also a .
Why do you care so much what other people think of Chris Paul? Yes, he's a better player than Williams. He's also a . I'd rather have Williams as my team leader.Of course, there's no proof you have to back up your claim. We're off to a great start already.
Yeah, because Paul is preventing West, Stojakovic and Okafor from being the great playmakers that they are.
Of course, you offer no proof--just like every other person who prefers Williams.
2008-2009
CP3: 3.73 A/TO
D-Will: 3.18 A/TO
2009-10
CP3: 4.42 A/TO
D-Will: 3.01 A/TO
Oh look! Not only does Paul have a better assist to turnover ratio, your claim that it was dependent on Chandler is also hilariously wrong, because it went up .71.
Really? And you know that Williams offers more versatility how? Paul and the Hornets took the Spurs to seven games. Williams and the Jazz only lasted five.
Williams supporters showing their lack of knowledge on both players like they're supposed to. No surprises here.
Why do people insist on making these stupid topics over and over again?
So was Bruce Bowen. That's never stopped Spurs fans from rooting for him before.He's also a .
lol at this poor, bitter Jazz fan sons
CP3 gets hurt while putting up his usual 20+ and 11+ and out shooting Williams by a mile, leading the league in assist, steals, etc. and now some people suddenly forget all about him. Its amazing to me just how narrow minded and how short some folks attention spans is in America now days. sad really.
Proof? What the heck is this? We're discussing basketball. How exactly to you proof ball-dominance? Or is it your opinion that since ball-dominance can't be "proved" it doesn't exist and doesn't impact the game?
And of course that Paul isn't preventing the other guys from being great playmakers - the thing is that Paul is better surrounded by that kind of players.
Huh? Dependent on Chandler? I think you have some comprehension problems.2008-2009
CP3: 3.73 A/TO
D-Will: 3.18 A/TO
2009-10
CP3: 4.42 A/TO
D-Will: 3.01 A/TO
Oh look! Not only does Paul have a better assist to turnover ratio, your claim that it was dependent on Chandler is also hilariously wrong, because it went up .71.
Compare the 08/09 numbers with and without Chandler - when a terrific screen setter/roller like Chandler was replaced by players who can't do those things at a high level (Armstrong/Marks). The Hornets offense was heavily reliant on Chandler setting screens on the perimeter. WIthout him Paul turnover rate regressed to 06/07 levels. With Okafor, another good screenroll center, it improved again, although not to the point of 07/08.
CP3's perimeter shooting is much better now than it was two seasons ago. It's not even close
PG's who have outperformed CP3 this year:
Kidd, Nash, Billups, Rondo, Williams, Derrick Rose, Tony Parker and a few others I'm forgetting.
Laker fan says Hornets are not that worse without CP3. Since former Laker Byron Scott got his ass fired:
With CP3 - 19-10
Without CP3 - 10-15
Also, CP3 can carry a bad team. The Hornets were 18-64 year before he was drafted. The next season Hornets win 38 games. Twenty game improvement.
Saying Deron Williams is better than CP3 is like saying Kobe is better than Lebron when the only thing he does better is shoot. Just like Lebron, CP3 does everything else better.
So you're saying the Jazz don't set good screens?
I want proof that Deron is better defensively.
Then what is the problem? Do you have some inside information that would show that Paul performs worse with other playmakers on his team?And of course that Paul isn't preventing the other guys from being great playmakers - the thing is that Paul is better surrounded by that kind of players.
And even if that is true, he still finished with a higher assist-to-turnover ratio with and without Chandler, so your speculation is moot.Huh? Dependent on Chandler? I think you have some comprehension problems.
Compare the 08/09 numbers with and without Chandler - when a terrific screen setter/roller like Chandler was replaced by players who can't do those things at a high level (Armstrong/Marks). The Hornets offense was heavily reliant on Chandler setting screens on the perimeter. WIthout him Paul turnover rate regressed to 06/07 levels. With Okafor, another good screenroll center, it improved again, although not to the point of 07/08.
Paul had a 3.53 A/TO ratio in 06-07. When is Deron going to match that?
Deron plays in a structured offense, one that requires ball movement and for all 5 guys to be involved. CP3 plays in a hopper ball system...no ball movement, one on one basketball, drive and create. That's why Boozer averages more assists than West. That's why AK averages more assists than Peja, and why Okur averages more assists than Okafor...and those numbers aren't even close.
Sure...we can look at only stats and say that CP3 has better numbers, but there's a whole of a lot more that goes into a game besides numbers. CP3 is more explosive and reckless, which he's proven once again will hurt him throughout his career. Deron is the solid rock...one you can count on to play most of the season. This alone puts Deron at the top of the PG talk, not to mention that he's a better team leader.
Bull . CP3 is closer to Stockton than Williams will ever be and Stockton played in the same system. CP3 could easily run that offense. However, with the garbage around him, he has to dominate the ball. Another funny thing is how you claim Williams is a better leader and you have no evidence of that. Despite playing with worse talent, CP3 led his team to a better record the two previous seasons.
Also, before this season, compare how many games each have played throughout the season and compare the minutes as well.
In addition to the constant physical injuries. I sure am glad Deron isn't built out of the soft cheese substance that Paul is.
CP3 played 10 more games than Williams last season and only two less the previous season.
Deron got hurt once in his career because D-Rose was dumb. Paul gets hurt because he's soft and small.
Actually Paul got hirt because West was dumb. And he's definitely not soft. Dude ain't got much body fat on him and has huge legs. That's why finishes better than Williams in the paint.
So, a player who isn't even as good as Chris Paul backup says Deron is better, and what's the point jazzy..............?
Well of course Brandon Jennings is going to say Deron is the best Point guard in the NBA because he is playing right now while Paul is injured.
Both are the 2 best point guards in the NBA who cares who is number 1 and number 2. They are both incredible. Who knows in the next couple of years maybe Rose, Westbrook, Collison, Curry, Evans (if you consider him a point guard) or another young point guard can become as good or not better than then them.
The NBA is stacked with young great point guards and it is great to see
+100000000000 to all of this post
EDIT: You forgot Rubio
THis. Amen.
You point to the records the last two seasons ...but look at at Game 7 vs. the Spurs and that ass raping vs. the Nuggs ...
Dontay Jones COULD NOT have done what he did to c3p to Dwill ...
Utah lost to the NBA champs 3 of the last 4 years eac time playing wel in defeat ...
At least the Hornets got to a game seven against the Spurs. The Jazz lost in five in the first round, just like the Hornets. Pointless comparison.
I guess using the logic of DWillfan Derek Fisher is better than either one because he's advanced further in the playoffs.
LOL @ got Hornet fans -- notice how you're the only ones backing up Brother Fall?
Read the sig, es.
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