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    Mason will do.. and it will satisfy he wishes for more minutes....

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    I don't want Daniels running the point, but I think he's at worst the third best PG option available amongst veterans. My preference is James. I'm less than enamored with either, but like I said, it's slim pickings available to say the least. I notice you conveniently didn't answer my question: can you name someone better available?
    Not having either of them is the best option. They will hurt your team more than they will help.

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    Mason will do.. and it will satisfy he wishes for more minutes....
    Hmm, no, he won't do. But I'm sure Pop will try anyways.

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    I think he stinks on ice. Otherwise he would have played more than 12 games the past two seasons.

    This team isn't winning a championship with James replacing Parker, so why not sign someone we could keep cheap next season?
    The Wizards were deep at PG this season: Arenas, Foye, Boykins.

    This isn't about looking towards next season with this signing. This is about getting the best player available to help get the team through the next month. James is it. Do you have any idea what Jerrells or Shakur will bring? I don't. They might be wide eyed playing in the NBA for the first time or have no obvious, instantaneously translatable skill at this level; James does. The Spurs need someone proven.

    Not having either of them is the best option. They will hurt your team more than they will help.
    Once again, you didn't answer the question.

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    The Wizards were deep at PG this season: Arenas, Foye, Boykins.

    This isn't about looking towards next season with this signing. This is about getting the best player available to help get the team through the next month. James is it. Do you have any idea what Jerrells or Shakur will bring?
    Well, yes. That's the reason I brought them up. I watched them play a lot more than James this season.
    I don't. They might be wide eyed playing in the NBA for the first time or have no obvious, instantaneously translatable skill at this level; James does.
    How do you know if you have never watched them play?

    The Spurs need someone proven.
    For what? A Parkerless championship run?

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    Once again, you didn't answer the question.
    I'm confused: are you saying that the Spurs should pick up a point guard who doesn't help the team just because there's no one else available?

    If that's the case, no, I can't name anyone else, and yes, the Spurs should pick up Daniels or James for the sake of it.

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    AD would work because we only need him to bring the ball up and know how to play in our defensive system. It would allow our guards play their positions.

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    Well, yes. I watched them play a lot more than James this season.How do you know if you have never watched them play?

    For what? A Parkerless championship run?
    Who said I didn't watch them play? Resorting to making things up now? You said if James were any good, he'd have played more, but the reality is the Wizards were deep at PG. Look, I'm not building up James as some great player, I just can't find a better option available.

    Parker will be back probably before the playoffs. Realistically, is this team winning a championship? No. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. It's not like they couldn't bring in Jerrells or Shakur as the third PG next season. You act as if these guys are future stars and they need to be secured and brought into the program now. At best, they'll be fringe NBA players.

    I'm confused: are you saying that the Spurs should pick up a point guard who doesn't help the team just because there's no one else available?

    If that's the case, no, I can't name anyone else, and yes, the Spurs should pick up Daniels or James for the sake of it.
    James might be able to help a little. The Spurs need a thirteenth roster player to comply with league rules by March 15th. They were already thin at PG and now they're even thinner, so why wouldn't they bring in a PG?

    My point exactly.

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    Oh, well if you're talking about filling a roster spot, then the best available is irrelevant. James is a chucker with no interest in playing team ball.

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    Who said I didn't watch them play? Resorting to making things up now?
    So how many times have you watched Shakur and Jerrells play this season? Give me a number. What are their strengths and weaknesses?

    You said if James were any good, he'd have played more, but the reality is the Wizards were deep at PG. Look, I'm not building up James as some great player, I just can't find a better option available.
    I think he's done and don't want to waste time on him.

    Parker will be back probably before the playoffs. Realistically, is this team winning a championship? No. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try.
    They can try with a young player. Chances are Mason will play the point before anyone mentioned.
    It's not like they couldn't bring in Jerrells or Shakur as the third PG next season.
    Why not now?

    You act as if these guys are future stars and they need to be secured and brought into the program now. At best, they'll be fringe NBA players.
    Now you are making things up. I said quite clearly they could be bench/reserve point guards and it's fine to find one to lock in early for next season with a nonguaranteed deal.

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    Manu is gonna play point, and that's ok. But Mason can't run a pick and roll and is a dribbling machine. Hill also has problem running the pick and roll and he simply plays better at the two.
    Ideally we need a PG that can play the P&R effectively. Not sure who's out there that can fill that role.

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    mike james gives spurs another scorer

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    Oh, well if you're talking about filling a roster spot, then the best available is irrelevant. James is a chucker with no interest in playing team ball.
    With this team's lack of depth at PG and the amount of games they have this month, whoever they bring in will have to be able to play some minutes. Maybe not every game, but definitely some, which is why I'm advocating bringing in a veteran.

    This "building towards the future" notion is nonsense in this case. Are Jerrells or Shakur really going to be a part of the future? And even if they are, they'll more than likely be buried deep on the bench. If by some chance they were in the rotation, they're not good enough to alter the landscape of this team's future. This is about trying to win now.

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    This is a dumb argument. There is no way Pop would play Jerrells or Shakur and neither one has a chance to make the squad next year.
    Mike James isn't ideal, but at least he could run the offense for 10-15 min. a game and hold TP's spot. The Spurs just need to stop the bleeding, not a transfusion.

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    What's Dontell Jefferson up to? Didn't Larry Brown like him?

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    Mine were just suggestions for those wondering about potential D-League call ups.

    You guys need to calm down about signing a player who is going to sit and watch Hill, Manu and Mason play the point.

    James sucks. He could certainly be signed, but he also certainly sucks.

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    What's Dontell Jefferson up to? Didn't Larry Brown like him?
    I think he is injured.

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    So how many times have you watched Shakur and Jerrells play this season? Give me a number. What are their strengths and weaknesses?

    I think he's done and don't want to waste time on him.

    They can try with a young player. Chances are Mason will play the point before anyone mentioned. Why not now?

    Now you are making things up. I said quite clearly they could be bench/reserve point guards and it's fine to find one to lock in early for next season with a nonguaranteed deal.
    I misread what you said. I thought you were referring to the Wizards, then went back and realized you were referring to Jerrells and Shakur.

    I'd rather go with a veteran and I assume the Spurs will as well. They play a lot of games this month against a lot of good teams and I just can't imagine they'd feel confident playing guys like Jerrells or Shakur. I don't want to "see if they can be NBA players", I want to at least attempt to win.

    We're not talking about a 30 mpg job here, but I assume at least in some games we're looking at 10-15 mpg and some of these will come in back to backs when the team is tired and/or against quality opposition. Why would anyone feel confident with an unproven (at this level) player being put in that position? Especially at the PG position. Even if they're out there with Ginobili and he's playing de facto PG.

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    The thing is, if one of Manu, Hill or Mason gets hurt, now that Fin is gone you just don't have enough talent either at PG or at the two. That's why I'm pretty sure that since they need to fill a spot anyways, it's probably going to be a backup PG

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    I misread what you said. I thought you were referring to the Wizards, then went back and realized you were referring to Jerrells and Shakur.

    I'd rather go with a veteran and I assume the Spurs will as well. They play a lot of games this month against a lot of good teams and I just can't imagine they'd feel confident playing guys like Jerrells or Shakur. I don't want to "see if they can be NBA players", I want to at least attempt to win.
    I think signing jump shooters who have no legs left is basically waving a white flag.

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    I think signing jump shooters who have no legs left is basically waving a white flag.
    I think signing some unproven player who's more than likely never going to be a full fledged NBA player is definitely waving a white flag.

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    I think signing some unproven player who's more than likely never going to be a full fledged NBA player is definitely waving a white flag.
    I will ask you again -- how many times have you seen Jerrells and Shakur play this season?

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    Slim pickins for sure. Best to try and get a vet with some experience with Spurs. Daniels, Claxton and Vaughn are the only ones to fit the mode. We don't need another shooter, but rather a play maker where a guy like Brevin Knight might work.

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